A gram-shaving Gus build sounds to me like a Susie build ;-). Rim-brake rim options for wide tires are indeed slim. I've heard of an Alex DX-32 which may be ~75g lighter than a Cliffhanger. In my stable, when the tires get that wide, that's where we switch over to disc brakes, which opens up a lot more light options, like the excellent Velocity Blunt SS.
If I had a Gus and wanted to make it easier to pedal up steep single track, I'd do it mostly with cargo reduction, lower gearing, and try to manage my own bodyweight. Gram shaving a Gus is going to get lost in the noise, in my humble opinion. Unless you can do something like Armand above and move your entire build over to another bike and earn yourself a do-over on your Gus build.... BL in EC On Tuesday, December 3, 2024 at 7:01:56 AM UTC-8 Richard Rose wrote: > Thanks for that. I love every single thing about my Gus & it’s build - > except its weight. It’s a heavy beast & it only bothers me going uphill on > singletrack. When I built it up from bare frame I paid no attention to > weight. I even (foolishly?) sold a Cane Creek ee wings Ti crankset to fund > the frame purchase. I’d kinda like to do it over & take this shaving every > gram approach. But, it would have to start with wheels. I just do not know > of a better/lighter rim to use than the Cliffhanger? Is there another MTB > worthy rim that will support a 2.6” tire? > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 2, 2024, at 10:43 PM, Armand Kizirian <kiziria...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sure, feels a bit snappier off the line and surprisingly fast for an > upright bike (nice tires with light wheels mostly help here). If you get > really active with the bike, go for a spirited sprint, or chuck it in some > turns at an aggressive speed, the weight shift does feel more noticeable. > It's more for the feel, not concerned with actual speed. All-in-all not a > big deal though for a bike that is meant for pleasure and commuting. The > weight is easily replaced by what I usually carry for a strict pleasure > ride, which really is the main intention, to offset that weight. 70% of the > time I have 20-30lb's of cargo for my commutes, as I pack a mobile office, > food for the day, and usually a change of clothes as well. > > > The main motivation for me to do this work is that I was building from the > frame up, which is the time to do it. Doing this work down the line > requires changing nearly everything, which is not time or cost-effective, > like Bill pointed out. If I had kept the stock complete built, the only > thing I would bother with is the wheelset, which really is the only thing > you'll actually feel a difference on. > > On Monday, December 2, 2024 at 5:51:23 PM UTC-8 Richard Rose wrote: > >> Very fascinating stuff. Two questions; how much did the 4+ pound weight >> loss cost & how does it feel? >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 2, 2024, at 7:06 PM, Armand Kizirian <kiziria...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Whoops! Good catch. From what's identified on that list, the correct >> total is 1938g / 4.27lbs. I feel silly after all that weighing and I didn't >> weigh the complete bike stock. Oh well! >> >> >> The 2.5lb+ drop in wheel weight also includes the exceptionally light, >> extralight rene herse casing, and lightweight Schwalbe butyl tubes. Though >> I have foregone both to run the endurance casing tubeless. >> >> On Monday, December 2, 2024 at 2:46:46 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >>> Looks like 1188g of savings is the SUM of both wheels reduction. 670g + >>> 518g = 1,188g Now it makes sense. Did you double-count the front wheel >>> savings in your total though? Maybe it doesn't matter anymore. :) >>> >>> BL in EC >>> >>> On Monday, December 2, 2024 at 2:44:17 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>> >>>> I don't follow the math. The rear wheel math makes sense to me: >>>> >>>> Heavy old rear wheel weight - Lighter new rear wheel weight = rear >>>> wheel weight savings >>>> 2252g - 1582g =670g = 23.634 oz (checks out) >>>> >>>> Heavy old front wheel weight - Lighter new front wheel weight = front >>>> wheel weight savings >>>> 1942g - 1424g = 518g =18.272 oz (Impressive, but you claim 1188g of >>>> savings on the front wheel) >>>> >>>> Bill Lindsay >>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>> On Monday, December 2, 2024 at 12:10:31 PM UTC-8 Armand Kizirian wrote: >>>> >>>>> For reference, I reduced the weight of my Platypus Complete by >>>>> 5.75lbs. I stripped the parts entirely for another frame, which was the >>>>> plan from the get go. The list below shows the weight difference of >>>>> parts. >>>>> It is mostly complete, but missing brakes and some other accessories, >>>>> because I ultimately lost interest and just wanted to finish the bike and >>>>> ride it. :) >>>>> >>>>> [image: platypus weight savings.png] >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, December 2, 2024 at 8:16:37 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> CONFIRMED! All of you who bought a CLEM complete from Rivendell are >>>>>> now confirmed as Weight Weenies!! Pop those reflectors off to save a >>>>>> gram >>>>>> or two! >>>>>> >>>>>> BL in EC >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, December 2, 2024 at 7:51:04 AM UTC-8 Ted Durant wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, December 2, 2024 at 9:33:16 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Somebody off-list told me that plastic sealed bearing Clem pedals >>>>>>> are impressively light. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I posted earlier in this thread, I weighed a pair of them at >>>>>>> 272g, including the plastic shrink-wrap holding them together :-) The >>>>>>> only >>>>>>> pedals I have that are lighter are Eggbeater 11 (titanium axles). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ted Durant >>>>>>> Milwaukee WI USA >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a87ebec6-1fd3-46ce-8d65-9cdcf0a30faan%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a87ebec6-1fd3-46ce-8d65-9cdcf0a30faan%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f470ffbd-ba53-4798-a71c-3bcb12630c29n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f470ffbd-ba53-4798-a71c-3bcb12630c29n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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