Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-04 Thread Patrick Moore
The way to start is to wheel your bike into the store with an air of owning the place. If someone questions you, you must assume an air of injured and very superior dignity. Note: if you get away with it for a year or so, then, when someone questions you, you can say, "Well! I've been wheeling it

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread 'clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch
Oh...A DahonNever mindI see your point. You have me wondering how my local Safeway would take to me using my Atlantis as a grocery cartSure would be simpler. No locking up the bike, getting a cart, forgetting my reusable bags, wiping off the slimy cart handle with handi wipes that ar

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch
It was whatever Rivendell installed when they built it; probably a Pletscher. It gets pretty windy here in Iowa, and I've learned to lay my bikes on the ground instead of using kickstands or leaning them against objects. Our Powderkeg sounds like scaffolding falling over when a big gust of wind

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Bill Lindsay
Toshi pointed out that I’ve got a fast Leo Roadini. It’s true that I do. I posted my best time ever for a 200k today on my Leo Roadini. I like my Leo very much. I’ll post a separate ride report. Bike reviews and ride reports tell you more about the person than they do about the bike. OMO Bill L

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Patrick Moore
I entirely agree; the best stand for heavy rear loads, even rather assymetrical ones, was a $18 Greenfield dropout mount one. Problem is, this is a Dahon folder, and if you clutter up the left rear dropout area with one of those stands, it interferes with folding. I think I will remove the bb-mount

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
My bike falling over is extremely annoying, especially when something gets broken or scratched. I cannot begin to gush how much better a rear triangle mounted, Greenfield kickstand works, versus a chain stay mount. I just cannotI will not use a chain stay mount. I’d rather go without. Now th

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I'm trying to distinguish frame flex from faster riding. For me, I'm not sure that a Roadeo and Roadini built to the same weight would ride any faster. Of course, I feel a dramatic difference when I go from my 35 lb racked and bagged up Hilsen to my 22 lb Roadeo, but I doubt that much of that is

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Patrick Moore
26.5 lb is not bad at all for such a build. My custom 26" wheel fixie, with dynamo lighting, fenders, racks, is probably 1 1/2 lb lighter, and that's with a Dingle fixed drivetrain in place of a 3X9. * I removed the kickstand because I was tired of the bike falling over all of the time.* Now that

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Patrick Moore
As an extension of this thread, a related question: what is our list's lightest Rivendell? Be sure to describe build (fixed, 1XN, 3XN) and size (48 or 64). My 1999 Joe Starck gofast fixie custom, 26" wheels, weighs 18.1 lb with all bolt-on parts but no strap on or slip in parts, a disappointing in

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Patrick Moore
Got it; the 57 is what I'd want; at least, I think so: are the sizes listed measured center to center? If c-t, the 57 would be a 56 c-c and slightly too small, though with the sloping tt I could probably get it to fit. I do want a 56 to 57 cm top tube; 58.2 is too long, or at least so far less than

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I'm no lightweight at ~150, but none of the Rivs I've owned have flexed for me except the A Homer Hilsen loaded with about 30 lbs of groceries (54 cm frame). This includes the Roadeo/Ram/AHH/Cheviot/Custom. Toshi On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 9:43 AM Lum Gim Fong wrote: > Probly but i think Its not

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Probly but i think Its not the weight. Its the flex. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post t

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Jonathan D.
Woudn’t the weight difference between a Roadini and Roadeo frame built the same be about 1-2 lbs? I would assume it is not just the weight but the flex of the frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from thi

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Paul G
58 cm happens to be between the two Roadeo sizes where the tubing gauge changes. The 57 and below use the lighter gauge and 59+ are stouter, more like a Ram and Hilsen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from th

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-02 Thread Patrick Moore
I'd guess that the principal reasons for the difference are cost and a more general all-rounder use for the Roadini; the Roadeo is a high-end road bike aimed at the club rider as an alternative to good if not top quality carbon fiber frames -- heck, as an alternative to 15K carbon fiber frames, if

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-10-28 Thread John Hawrylak
Lum Glad to hear they we OS. The 8-5-8 OS is same rigidity as 10-7-10 STD or like Columbus Tenax tubing. The 6-4-6 OS is like 8-6-8 STD. So a 0.1 mm wall decrease helps with the planning. Just be careful of denting on the DT, J Heine claims walls of < 0.5mm tend to dent, especially the DT.

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-10-28 Thread Jonathan D.
I have a Joe and test rode the MIT atlantis. The MIT Atlantis actually reminded me of the Sam hillborne with the difference being 650B. I think it is the shorter top tube. Personally I preferred the MIT Atlantis with the shorter top tube and 650B to my current Joe. The Joe will probably go up fo

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-10-28 Thread Lum Gim Fong
JohnThe 858 i rode were all rivendell os tubing Roadeo is 646 os -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.co

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-10-28 Thread Ash
Hi Edgar, Joe is 51cm. Atlantis feels more nimble and quicker to pick up speed. Also relatively stiffer. Joe A is more comfortable overall. It seems to absorb road impressions better than my Atlantis. Perhaps because the frame is slightly bigger. The tubing might be thinner than Atlantis

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-10-27 Thread Ed Fausto
Hi Ash, What size is your Appaloosa? How do you compare the ride with your MIT Atlantis? Edgar > On 27 Oct 2018, at 11:24 PM, Ash wrote: > > > Here's my Joe A. He's 34 lbs. > > >> On Saturday, 27 October 2018 08:21:59 UTC-7, Ash wrote: >> My MIT Atlantis 50cm as shown weighs 31 lbs. >> >> B

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2017-06-20 Thread GAJett
🤔Sounds like that's complete with motor 😀 Cheers! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to t

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2017-06-20 Thread Reed Kennedy
My 62cm Hunqapillar weighs between 33 and 36 lbs, depending on rack, wheelset, tires. Lightest configuration is like this, but with 38mm Compass Barlow Pass tires: https://goo.gl/photos/wcx2zxSLPC8kDdbC6 (Counting the rack and basket, not counting the lock, bags, tools.) Oh, here's one with the ri

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2017-06-20 Thread Jim M.
But I think I can get it down to 269 with a carbon fiber crank. On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 8:11:10 AM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote: > > My Bombadil weighs about 270 pounds on the road. > > jim m > walnut creek > >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Ow

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2017-06-20 Thread Jim M.
My Bombadil weighs about 270 pounds on the road. jim m walnut creek On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 7:59:18 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > That's pretty light for an Atlantis! > > Mine: > > The '99 Custom 57 c-c: 17.8 lb with "heavy" Dura Ace SPD pedals but no bag > -- would be 17.5 lb with the

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2017-06-20 Thread Patrick Moore
That's pretty light for an Atlantis! Mine: The '99 Custom 57 c-c: 17.8 lb with "heavy" Dura Ace SPD pedals but no bag -- would be 17.5 lb with the Xpedos, so I lose a couple of average miles p h for style. Wheels: Sun M14A 559; 70 gram tubes; Elk Pass tires; Phil hubs, rear with 15/17; Revolutio

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-10-24 Thread Patrick Moore
Weight! Weight! Weight! Sounds like my (skinny and tall) 13-year-old daughter (alas). I just weighed my Fargo: just under 33 lb with at-least-3-lb saddlebag and contents; this is the off road equivalent of a 58 cm frame. All bolt on accessories, which for this one amounts to 4 nylon bottle cages a

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-15 Thread Bertin753
Ram at Mom's! Patrick Moore iPhone > On Aug 15, 2014, at 8:56 PM, Don Compton wrote: > > Patrick, > For some reason, I thought you owned a Ram. > >> On Friday, August 15, 2014 4:10:50 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >> I remembered to weight the Fargo last night -- using a hi tek, $8 Deal >> E

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-15 Thread Don Compton
Patrick, For some reason, I thought you owned a Ram. On Friday, August 15, 2014 4:10:50 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I remembered to weight the Fargo last night -- using a hi tek, $8 Deal > Extreme digital luggage scale: T handle gauge with nylon strap. Removed the > very large Jandd Mount

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-15 Thread Patrick Moore
I remembered to weight the Fargo last night -- using a hi tek, $8 Deal Extreme digital luggage scale: T handle gauge with nylon strap. Removed the very large Jandd Mountain Wedge (big enough for a change of clothing -- pants and shirt -- if you roll tightly, this in addition to tubes, tools, and Le

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread Chris Chen
do you want me to weigh it with or without the two racks of ribs? or the melon? On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Don't hold your breath. Jan doesn't ride a Rivendell (even though he > still owns one), and Jan knows that bike weight doesn't matter anywhere > near as much as

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread Philip Williamson
Oh! I've been lapped in the singlespeed weight-weenie race! Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:34:29 PM UTC-7, AD wrote: > > > I have a 20.5 lbs SimpleOne with magnesium bottom bracket, Brooks > titanium, Paul levers and cantis, JB greens, Phil 36h (can probably drop > some

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread AD
I have a 20.5 lbs SimpleOne with magnesium bottom bracket, Brooks titanium, Paul levers and cantis, JB greens, Phil 36h (can probably drop some weight with 32 WI), cut Nitto seatpost. Minimizing the weight was just for kicks as the bike is regulated to family rides on the Iron Horse trail.

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I was pretty surprised about the commuting load weight to! But that does include a full set of work clothes, tools, rain jacket, u luck, cable and of course two canvas bags. Good thing I took out the laptop that I only occasionally have onboard of the number would have been really shocking!

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I was pretty surprised about the commuting load weight to! But that does include a full set of work clothes, tools, rain jacket, u luck, cable and of course two canvas bags. Good thing I took out the laptop that I only occasionally have onboard of the number would have been really shocking!

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Philip Williamson
Bags, my friend. Never weigh them! Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Tony DeFilippo
1. Saluki 2. 60cm 3. 28 lbs, 42 lbs at full commuting load 1. XO-3 (1993, 26"), single speed 2. 59cm 3. 27 lbs. I would have figured the XO to be a couple lbs lighter but I have some junky Kenda 1.95" tires and a B67 saddle that probably account for a pound or two of weight delta just there. I

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Dave @ Riv
That guy on the HILSEN was our very own riv Jared! Flyin. On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 3:26:12 PM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote: > > > On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:39:54 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> IIRC, my errand custom fixie is ~23 lb without fenders but with rack, >> dyno lights, cage

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
Five pounds lighter than my Q Phillip. You're killing me here! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Philip Williamson
So I have the lightest Quickbeam so far? Woot! Cryptoweightweenie, Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:17:54 AM UTC-7, Jason Leach wrote: > > I'll chime in: > > 54cm Quickbeam > 170mm cranks 42t with a chainguard > Albatross > Suzue Free/Free wheelset > B17 > Mini Front/ w

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
Admissable? Yes. Is it usable or practical without the booze? No On Thursday, August 7, 2014 2:07:58 AM UTC-7, Tom Harrop wrote: > > Bill, your complete camping set up weighs significantly less than my > unladen, unsackvilled Bomba. Good effort, but is it admissible without the > booze...? >

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Tom Harrop
Bill, your complete camping set up weighs significantly less than my unladen, unsackvilled Bomba. Good effort, but is it admissible without the booze...? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and st

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Jason Leach
I'll chime in: 54cm Quickbeam 170mm cranks 42t with a chainguard Albatross Suzue Free/Free wheelset B17 Mini Front/ wald/ shopsack Big Back Rack/ canvas panniers Planet Bike fenders 700x32mm Wire Bead Paselas bungee chords, two tubes, a few tools 28lbs Jason SF,CA On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:54

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-06 Thread Bill Lindsay
> > Ha, you guys are a bunch of weight weenies! :) > There are no weenier weight weenies than the Camping weight weenies, so I set up a minimalist S24O kit. I took my 27 lb double speed (with HA Panniers) and added: Hammock + sleeping bag + VBL + stuffable pillow stove + pot + utensils

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-06 Thread Brewster Fong
On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:39:54 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > IIRC, my errand custom fixie is ~23 lb without fenders but with rack, dyno > lights, cages. The gofast is 17 3/4 lb. The Fargo IIRC is ~30 lb: it may be > 28 or it may be 31, I forget. Again, all ready to ride with all bolt

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-06 Thread Patrick Moore
IIRC, my errand custom fixie is ~23 lb without fenders but with rack, dyno lights, cages. The gofast is 17 3/4 lb. The Fargo IIRC is ~30 lb: it may be 28 or it may be 31, I forget. Again, all ready to ride with all bolt on parts except fenders but no bags or bottles. And my bars are 3 cm below sad

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-06 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
Interesting exercise. I weighed mine w bags, pumps, repair/patch kits, lights, but with no water bottles, in other words as they would be ridden: 1) Riv Road Custom, 61.5cm, standard build w brifters, Carradice saddlebag, 28mm tires, 26 lbs. 2) Quickbeam, 60cm, with Nitto M12 front rack w Wald ba

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-06 Thread Chris Chen
You mean 27+++ lb of co-pilot, right? :) On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:45 AM, John Stowe wrote: > 58cm Sam Hillborne: 41 lb including pump and tool bag which are always on > the bike; normally I ride with 5.9 lb. of locks and some water as well, so > call it 48 lb. Then add my laptop bag with everyd

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread Patrick Moore
Oh, the "Unbearable Lightness of Being"! I want to play, too, but I've been out of town. Will weight and list and post before this thread dies. Patrick "and if I don't, who cares?"Moore On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:48 PM, eflayer wrote: > FS: 2009 Specialized Roubaix Pro frameset, 61 cm, XXL, with

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread Joe Broach
63 Riv Canti-Rom 28.5 pounds with pump and lights but without toolkit and usual around town load more or less stock build except nitto m12 front rack aerohead wheelset with SON front hub and Phil freewheel rear B17 Following Grant's rule for stating bike weights, rider weighs about 5x the bike. I

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Chris Chen
Magic 40! Now we're talkin! On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > > My Bombadil: > > 56cm Bomba > 32 hole Synergy rims, XT hubs, force field Fatty Rumpkin > Sugino Mity 900

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Anne Paulson
The San Marcos build weight sounds like it might be too good to be true. 21.5 pounds for a double top tube bike with a triple and a kickstand? On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Those Atlantis and San Marcos weights are really impressive. That > Atlantis build has basically

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Chris Chen
I always include bags, racks, and locks, because, well, I am going to ride somewhere, aren't I? On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Those Atlantis and San Marcos weights are really impressive. That > Atlantis build has basically nothing light on it, has full-on heavy wheels,

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread cyclotourist
Thanks! http://www.cafepress.com/copenhagenchic.503775045 Cheers, David "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Marc Irwin wrote: > Those stickers are available from Cycle Chic through Cafe Press. I > absolutely had to have one when I saw i

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Marc Irwin
Those stickers are available from Cycle Chic through Cafe Press. I absolutely had to have one when I saw it. On Sunday, August 3, 2014 5:10:57 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > Where did you get that sticker??? > Awesomeness! > > Cheers, > David > > "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread Robert F Harrison
And I can't figure out if it should be with racks, bags, and baskets...and if so, which racks, bags, and baskets? In any case my Hunq, with motor, feels about a half pound lighter than it did this morning before my 20 mile ride. Does that count? Aloha, Bob On August 3, 2014, at 2:42PM, Garth w

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread Goshen Peter
My bombadil is a large sturdy friend who is always there to get me home. I won't shame him by outing his heft. 😉 On Aug 3, 2014 8:42 PM, "Garth" wrote: > >Lol :) > >Some things are better left unsaid, so said my Bombadil ! > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread Tom Harrop
20 lb eh? I weighed my 68 cm Bomba with racks and lock but no bags recently when I was considering boxing it up to ship to myself. SON dyno front hub, Phil Wood rear, 60 mm Big Apples, Berthoud SS fenders. It was 18 kg and change. I put an Ursus Jumbo kickstand on today, so I'm thinking I might

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread William!
Measured as I ride them, on my bathroom scale: 58cm Roadeo with Brooks swallow, mavic 32h wheels with green jack browns, misc spd clipless, sram force group, soba bars, acorn saddle bag, flat/spare/toolkit: 20.5lbs 61cm Atlantis with Shimano Deore/Sugino/Tektro/Silver 'group', beefy 36h wheels

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread cyclotourist
Where did you get that sticker??? Awesomeness! Cheers, David "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Marc Irwin wrote: > > > I'm afraid to even find out about the Hunq. > > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread Chris Chen
Well that was easy. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/9096121718/in/photostream/ On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Marc Irwin wrote: > > > I'm afraid to even find out about the Hunq. > > > > > >