Re: [RBW] Re: F.S. 56.5 Waterford built All Rounder $1200

2009-12-23 Thread Jason Hartman
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:21 PM, newenglandbike wrote: > I remember reading somewhere that the current Rivendell frames (that > are built at Waterford) use a combination of Reynolds 725 and True > Temper OX platinum tubing. I don't know about earlier frames like > the All-rounder though. > All

Re: [RBW] Re: F.S. 56.5 Waterford built All Rounder $1200

2009-12-23 Thread cyclotourist
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:58 AM, CycloFiend wrote: > > > The SGBWWBMBAVLBC literature I saved from that year refers to it as "a > descendent of 753" and I'm sure the inference of certification came from > that. > > be safe! > > - J > > -- > > Didn't 753 have some problems with cracking or such? -

Re: [RBW] Re: F.S. 56.5 Waterford built All Rounder $1200

2009-12-23 Thread CycloFiend
on 12/23/09 9:28 AM, tarik saleh at tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: > Jim, > As it is snowing hard and I am one of 3 people in my building right now, > > I don't remember 853 ever havbing a certification on it. It is > airhardening, but it has been used pretty successfully for lugged > frames, You do

Re: [RBW] Re: F.S. 56.5 Waterford built All Rounder $1200

2009-12-23 Thread tarik saleh
Jim, As it is snowing hard and I am one of 3 people in my building right now, I don't remember 853 ever havbing a certification on it. It is airhardening, but it has been used pretty successfully for lugged frames, You don;t get the hardening benefit, but it still is prettuy high quality steel eve

Re: [RBW] Re: F.S. 56.5 Waterford built All Rounder $1200

2009-12-23 Thread Bruce
material. From: CycloFiend To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 11:06:01 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: F.S. 56.5 Waterford built All Rounder $1200 on 12/23/09 8:52 AM, XO-1.org Rough Riders at adventureco...@gmail.com wrote: > It&#x

Re: [RBW] Re: F.S. 56.5 Waterford built All Rounder $1200

2009-12-23 Thread tarik saleh
In rampant speculation mode, I would be really surprised if Riv ever specced 853 for a lugged bike. But I am just guessing. I did think that they were using 753 early on in their US production mode. Chris, you have any particular reasoning on this? Tarik On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM, XO-1.org

Re: [RBW] Re: F.S. 56.5 Waterford built All Rounder $1200

2009-12-23 Thread CycloFiend
on 12/23/09 8:52 AM, XO-1.org Rough Riders at adventureco...@gmail.com wrote: > It's not a 753 frame. I think that's a typo. 853 is more likely. 853 was a tubeset designed for tig welding, referred to as "Air-Hardened" so that it strengthens as it is welded. 753 was formulated for low temp brazi