When I had my old Trek Multitrack re-fitted with a threadless fork it took
two phone calls and a personal visit to the shop to convince them not to
cut the steerer tube! I told them to stack the spacers and put the stem
at the very top (so I'd have plenty of cable length). I'll admit it looke
Shaun,
Based on my experience and research, I love the design of the Atlantis.
However, it's a pricey option so I'm considering a LHT instead. The only
thing about the Trucker that concerns me is the chainstay length of 46cm
(compared to the 44cm chainstays of the Atlantis). You've ridden b
I've got a 64cm LHT that replaced a 68cm Atlantis. There is probably 1 or 2
more cm of seatpost showing on the Trucker but I feel more comfortable on
it. With spacers on the steerer the vertical relationship beween the saddle
and the bars is the same as on the Atlantis (bars slightly higher than
sa
Hi Jim, I measured a 58 and and a 62, though my measurements may have been
off by half a centimeter give or take.The 58 seems to have a 61cm
actual TT length, and the 62 has a 63cm actual TT length.Doing some
trigonometry the 58 Hunq has about a 63cm effective TT and the 62 has about
a
The following frames do not have expanded geometry: Atlantis, AHH, Roadeo.
The following do: Hillborne, Hunqapillar, Bombadil, San Marcos, Betty Foy
The expanded ones are identified in the chart by their 6 degree toptube slope
(if they have a TT.) Any in that category should be showing just effe
It's not actually clear which frames on the current geometry chart show the
effective rather than actual TT lengths. I know for example that the
Hunqapillar TT lengths listed are definitely not effective length though, I
don't even think they are actual length.
Matt
On Thursday, August 1
To David Craig's question: no, for Atlantis and AHH, the TT listings are
actual, not effective. So with those two, the effective TT is a bit longer, but
the effect is relatively small due to low angles.
But yes it's true that the expanded frames (6 degree upslope ones) only list
the effective
For that matter, in the industry in general why are so few TT upslope angles
included in geometry info? With Rivs, for example, it's important to know that
some models slope about 2 degrees, while others slope 6 degrees. The 6 degree
ones shoot those bars up about 4 extra centimeters relative t
Query: Why do most manufacturers use the C-T measurement, when the
"top" is sorta' ambiguous? Seems like C-C is a more consistent
measurement, and the way top tubes are measured as well. Juster
wondering.
On 7/31/13, David Craig wrote:
> Point taken, Matt.
>
> On the topic of tt's, I seem to reca
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:16:04 PM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> A friend of mine recently purchased a Long Haul Trucker from his LBS in
> Wisconsin after coming up and test riding both my LHT and my Ogre to
> decide which one he wanted to get.
>
> When the shop took delivery o
A friend of mine recently purchased a Long Haul Trucker from his LBS in
Wisconsin after coming up and test riding both my LHT and my Ogre to decide
which one he wanted to get.
When the shop took delivery of the bike, my friend called me asking for my
advice as to what height he should have his ste
my sister and BIL have new bikes from REI. Her power is not falling off.
On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:50:30 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I've never met a mean guy in a bike shop. Mostly passionate people, some
> jaded people who've heard it all before. This works for me and it should
> wor
I've never met a mean guy in a bike shop. Mostly passionate people, some
jaded people who've heard it all before. This works for me and it should
work for you, too, is a natural attitude. I think the comfort aspect that
is so important to us, um, older guys really is lost in bike shops and
c
Excellent points made. I hope that I positively influenced the purchase of
the bike. Only time will (may?) tell. After the positive and thoughtful
comments from all listers on this thread, I might have been a lot more
circumspect in helping my friend. Perhaps I would have just presented
opi
David,
Wow! Kudos to you. You just saved me a a lot of typing. Everything,
everything you just stated I agree with. Extremely well said.
Advertisers, use the notion that we make decisions based on emotion and we
rectify those decisions by believing we came to those decisions by way of
rationa
"Lets not have this degrade into something where people have to justify to
whoever that they use what they buy or "deserve" to own something."
Yep, I agree 100%. I'm truly sorry if I offended anyone.
I have nothin' against hatchet buyers or sellers, would-be woodspeople in
Walnut Creek, or anyb
Lets not have this degrade into something where people have to justify to
whoever that they use what they buy or "deserve" to own something. I buy
stuff because I like it, what I do or don't do with it is my own business.
I might buy that hatchet and just hang it on a wall for the next 20 years
bec
I do, though, use my Gransfors-Bruk Mini Hatchet. ;)
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It's tough to fit a bike. Really, it's much tougher than I think it seems
to many of us. It's way tougher than selling shoes and even that isn't
straightforward. Can we give well-intentioned shop owners, manufacturers
and bike shop kids the benefit of the doubt? That doesn't mean we should
blin
in a perfect world, we'd all have custom-made frames with top tubes and
seat tubes made just for us. Most of us can't. My buddy and I are both
6'3", but my legs are 5" longer than his, and his torso is 5" longer than
mine. He rides a 59cm and needs a long top tube, I ride a 64cm and need a
s
Surly measures center to top, but the seat tube extends past the toptube a
bit. You can kindof see what I mean in this geometry diagram:
http://surlybikes.com/bikes/cross_check_ss/geometry
Pre-cutting a steel steerer (unlike a carbon fiber one that has a maximum
recommended number of spacers f
Couple o' points -
- Yeah, I do think that a lot of large-scale manufacturers send the bikes
with shorter steerers. Forks and frames don't necessarily come from the
same production facility, and they are often cut to spec before packaging
them.
- Grant's fitting guidelines are ostensibly for
I think Surly ships most bikes with the steerer cut. The LHT comes uncut,
supposedly.
Eric
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:35 AM, bobish wrote:
> > The only thing I'd fault the shop on is cutting the steerer tube before
> selling the bike.
>
> This! I'm sorry but the only way to explain this (pre-fit
Seems silly to cut down all those steerers.
But I am impressed that a bike shop carries multiple sizes of Cross
Checks on the floor. That's pretty cool in and of itself.
On 7/28/13, bobish wrote:
>> The only thing I'd fault the shop on is cutting the steerer tube before
>> selling the bike.
>
>
> The only thing I'd fault the shop on is cutting the steerer tube before
> selling the bike.
This! I'm sorry but the only way to explain this (pre-fitting) is stupid, lazy
or both.
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An excellent point about the measurement system. The CC SS comes with flat
bars with a bit of a backwards sweep, so maybe the longer top tube was what
my friend found so comfortable. Curiously, the store was of the opinion
that if you have drops, then a longer top tube is better so you can "ge
Actually, it sounds to me like everyone knew what they were doing. I've
owned a number of Surly bikes over the years. The first one, a Cross
Check, was 62cm. Realized after about 2 months I'd never get comfortable
with the handlebars so far away. Ended up putting Albatross bars on that
bike and
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