Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-05 Thread ascpgh
Joe, You can start doing one exercise to make your "nature walks" more enjoyable by the end when you are tired which is exercising your vastus medialis (that lump just above the kneecap on the along inside of your thigh. I had a rough recovery from a leg surgery and its atrophy of disuse did n

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-04 Thread Joe Bernard
"menu item" HA! I took a short dirt detour at Stafford Lake in Novato today (on the Cheviot) and encountered a bobcat. He was a lot bigger than my cat so I decided it was time to turn around... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" gro

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-04 Thread Ray Varella
Don’t overthink it Joe, I wear ankle high moccasins for at least 90% of my working, walking, hiking and daily footwear. On a several hour hike in Big Sur, on super steep trails, the two girls I was with were wearing flip flops. Just watch out for poison oak, rattlesnakes and anything big enoug

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-04 Thread Jim M.
If you're of a certain age, and haven't hiked in a while, the first hike may make you aware of a bunch of muscles you didn't know you had, even if you're in good bike shape. A lot of clauses in that sentence, but I think you get my drift. happy trails. jim m walnut creek, ca On Friday, May 4,

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-04 Thread Joe Bernard
What's funny after all this input - which I appreciate - is it looks like I'm already using my walking/hiking gear on my bike. Well ok then! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving e

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Surly: Yes, I have the thinner socks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-04 Thread Surlyprof
Ask 50 people and get 100 opinions... I prefer Smartwool merino wool lite hikers. I personally found thinner to be better (although not too thin). John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and sto

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-04 Thread Joe Bernard
The hiking will be in Yosemite, not LA. Plus I intend to keep doing it around here in Marin County, although what I'll be doing on my own is probably more accurately called nature walking. Yes to merino blend socks, I've been using LL Beans in my walking/riding shoes for years. Cushy, warm in

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-04 Thread phil k
I have these and they are my go to outdoor socks. On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 10:37:21 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I find thick wool socks good for this purpose, since they both take up > slack in shoe fit without requiring excessively tight lacing, thus avoiding > both sliding and blisteri

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-04 Thread Patrick Moore
I find thick wool socks good for this purpose, since they both take up slack in shoe fit without requiring excessively tight lacing, thus avoiding both sliding and blistering, and pinching, but allow room for a bit of swelling. The ones I like come in packs of 3 from Costco -- though just realized

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-04 Thread phil k
Oh okay. LA hiking is very different than mtn hiking that I like to do. Went to visit LA a few months back and did some hiking there with a water bottle, regular clothes, and tennis shoes. The LA trails are pretty easy going and well kept. The only difficulty is the uphill, and even then it's f

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-04 Thread Surlyprof
I did learn a couple of things I about shoes from years of backpacking. Make sure there’s at least a thumb’s width of distance between your toe and the front of the shoe or boot (not sure if this applies to those minimalist shoes). This is particularly important going downhill. Make sure ther

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Joe Bernard
Eric: You're right, I already have some super comfortable Asics that I'll start with. They look slightly overbuilt for riding but it's what I use all the time and they work great for that..I figure they'll hold up well to the low-key amount of "hiking" I'll be doing. The reason for pestering y

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Eric Karnes
I third this. Though I'm not as hardcore as barefoot Deacon, I've found simple low-cut shoes with a decent tread better than heavy boots for short hikes (i.e. not traversing the Appalachian Trail). They work just fine 95% of the time and like mountain biking without full-suspension, force/allow

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
So since I've had my hip replaced, I'm doing more walking/hiking. It is really easy for me to ONLY ride, because I like it so much, but I was having some pain in the replaced hip (nothing like the pain that brought the replacement about) and I had a sense that I needed to walk more. So I did. (A

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Patrick Moore
BTW: if WALKING is a real magazine, I apologize, and retract my recommendation; I had no idea. (Still don't.) On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Joe: you need to subscribe to WALKING. It tells you all you need to > know--and more! > > Patrick Moore > iPhone > > > On May 3, 20

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Patrick Moore
Joe: you need to subscribe to WALKING. It tells you all you need to know--and more! Patrick Moore iPhone > On May 3, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I didn't mention this mythical walking magazine and I don't know why you're > giving me shit. It's clearly marked OT and I've gotten a

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread lconley
I use trekking poles and whatever shoes (or flip-flops) that I have on. I have the same problem with hiking boots as I do with cycling shoes - nobody makes them that fit me so I don't use them. I spent an hour or so in the REI in downtown Seattle and they didn't have anything that fit me (wide

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Joe Bernard
I didn't mention this mythical walking magazine and I don't know why you're giving me shit. It's clearly marked OT and I've gotten a lot of useful information without doing a deep dive down high-tech WALKING! rabbit holes I'm trying to avoid. So take a hike! -- You received this message becaus

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
I used to sprain my ankle 2-4 times a year hiking with heavy, custom boots. Zero sprains since going barefoot/minimalist. “Support” weakens the system. Cushion deafens and blinds the system. WHen you can’t feel rocks and roots, ankles roll. Takes time (3 mo. as a rule) to build up atrophied musc

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Patrick Moore
Walking is not that difficult. Dangers particular to particular areas are another matter, but none were raised in the original question. Even I, who never walk when I can ride, know to wear comfortable shoes and socks, clothes, protect from sun, and so forth; you really don't need to subscribe to

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Joe Bernard
It's mentioned somewhere where Grant was saying he would hike more cool places if he didn't hate driving to them. And if I "knew all this" I wouldn't be asking, now would I? I know the general stuff about food and water, but know nothing about correct shoes and hiking sticks and whatnot. And I w

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Tim Butterfield
I prefer sandals, specifically Luna Sandals in a model with a sole with a bit of traction. These are the sandals first inspired by the Tarahumara as documented in the book, Born to Run. I figure if they're good enough for folks running long distance trail races, they should be good enough for me

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Patrick Moore
On the other hand, when I walk my dog a mile down the street and back, I just make sure I'm wearing pants, slip on my beat up boat shoes, and shuffle off. On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > I didn't see hiking mentioned there; that's fine, though. > > You can't walk, you kno

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Patrick Moore
I didn't see hiking mentioned there; that's fine, though. You can't walk, you know, unless to subscribe to *WALKING!* and spend at least $3,675.00 on kit. I ought to do more hiking, especially since I live 100 yards from some pretty bosque trails. If I ever stop cycling, it will be hiking, or wal

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Christopher Murray
Have a plan (and tell someone), bring enough water and food, start with shorter/easier hikes, check the weather, and have fun. I’ve sold hiking/ climbing gear for 10 years and it is amazing how complicated you can make something that can be as uncomplicated as walking in the woods. If you enjoy

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Steven Sweedler
If it’s warm out I recommend Chaco sandals. Very popular with thru hikers and weekenders.Steve On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 12:12 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Clayton: Yeah, I'm already seeing that there's a whole buncha ways to go > at this. I have the running shoes so I'll go to China Camp with those

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Joe Bernard
Clayton: Yeah, I'm already seeing that there's a whole buncha ways to go at this. I have the running shoes so I'll go to China Camp with those and see how I like it. It'll be fun to glare at the mountain bikers like the hikers did me when I was there yesterday on my bike ;-) -- You received th

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Clayton.sf
personally I prefer sandals or running shoes and don't use poles. But, hiking is like hiking in that regard - many opinions and few absolutes. Clayton Scott ST, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this gr

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Joe Bernard
The pole thing is interesting, I never would have thought of that. As for William Bill Bubba's advice, I don't know, man..sounds like indexing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiv

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Yes, shoes with ankle support so you don't roll your ankle and sprain it. Yes to poles if you want to take the strain off your knees--especially downhill. Otherwise follow Bill's advice ;). Toshi On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Eric Floden wrote: > Hiking: > > I use a hiking pole as l find it

Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

2018-05-03 Thread Eric Floden
Hiking: I use a hiking pole as l find it takes some load from lower to upper body; Over ankle shoes or boots with Vibram-like soles; Carry spare dry socks; The books of Tristam Gooley are most useful for wayfinding and awareness EricF Gatineau Hills On Thu, May 3, 2018, 11:27 Joe Bernard w