Re: [RBW] No DT shifter boss

2011-09-27 Thread jimD
Sorry, the Porter is in eastern washington. I have no pictures. It's difficult to compare the bikes. The Porter is a 70's club rider bike (super record groupo) for a younger, stronger rider. I had ton's of fun on that bike for many years. The bars on the Porter are ~3 cm below seat height. Thes

Re: [RBW] No DT shifter boss

2011-09-27 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Oh, please post many and detailed photos of the Dave Porter. When did you get it? I've been tempted to get a gofast from him (he lives in ABQ). How does it compare with your Riv, bar/saddle relationship aside? FWIW, I could reach the dt levers on my Curt Custom back when it had a rear derailleur

Re: [RBW] No DT shifter boss

2011-09-27 Thread jimD
This makes sense even for my Riv custom. With taller frames and higher bars, reaching for downtubers seems, for me, a bit of a stretch. That wasn't the case on my Dave Porter custom. These days when I ride that bike (which I love) I get a crick in my neck but I sure can reach those down tube s

Re: [RBW] No DT shifter boss

2011-09-26 Thread Tom Taylor
Fwiw, I had a conversation about this with Kevin at Riv when I was in the process of buying my Sam H. His explanation was that, what with the sloping top tube and the typical high bar setup, down tube shifters are way down there, a big reach, and don't make sense. So the bike is basically desi

Re: [RBW] No DT shifter boss

2011-09-26 Thread René Sterental
Neither does the Betty. AFIK, it saves a little money on these lower cost frames made in Taiwan. Very few people use DT shifters now so they are pretty much dissapearing from most lower cost frames. The more expensive frames like the Hunqapillar, Atlantis, Homer and Bombadil have them. On Mon, Sep