Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-27 Thread Peter Pesce
I think both you and Patrick would run afoul of "tome" limits with some of your posts! :) Pete in CT (I can be a twit in 140 characters) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://grou

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 16:31 -0500, robert zeidler wrote: > And if you finish beyond the time limit? Disqualified. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To u

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-27 Thread robert zeidler
Thank You Patrick! I'm not against racing, nor against tome clocks. I like brevets and enjoy the people. I, too, have enjoyed a long lunch. It's not racing in the very strictest sense, I am fully aware. But why not just climb on the bike and knock out the mileage? I'm always interested in the exten

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-27 Thread robert zeidler
And if you finish beyond the time limit? On Friday, January 27, 2012, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 10:01 -0500, robert zeidler wrote: >> It has a clock. > > Having a time limit does not turn a brevet into a race. You have to > finish within a given time (13.5 hours for a 20

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-27 Thread robert zeidler
And if you finish beyond the time limit? On Friday, January 27, 2012, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 10:01 -0500, robert zeidler wrote: >> It has a clock. > > Having a time limit does not turn a brevet into a race. You have to > finish within a given time (13.5 hours for a 20

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 10:01 -0500, robert zeidler wrote: > It has a clock. Having a time limit does not turn a brevet into a race. You have to finish within a given time (13.5 hours for a 200km brevet) and must maintain a certain average speed (around 9.3 mph, if I recall correctly) across th

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-27 Thread robert zeidler
OK On Friday, January 27, 2012, Mike wrote: > Even charity rides and organized centuries have a clock. > > On Jan 27, 7:01 am, robert zeidler wrote: >> It has a clock. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-27 Thread robert zeidler
It has a clock. On Friday, January 27, 2012, Mike wrote: > On Jan 25, 6:24 pm, Chris Lampe wrote: >> I recently got interested in Randonneuring as a very long-term riding >> goal and during my research I found a story a guy wrote about an event >> that included himself, Jan Heine and another

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-26 Thread robert zeidler
I just did a brevet in Gainesville. 200k, nothing too nuts. Big fun. It IS a free country so to each his/her own. Riding all night is Ok if that's one choice. But not in south of France unless that's where you ride all the time. On Thursday, January 26, 2012, jimD wrote: > Many of my non bicycle

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-26 Thread Lyle Bogart
In the research I've been looking at, one of the points left unclear to me is how much is too much. In certain of the studies, the subjects are elite road cyclist, ultra-runners, or elite nordic ski racers. In others, the subjects are referred to as "long-time endurance exercisers" which is, to me,

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-26 Thread jimD
Many of my non bicycler friends think that riding 25 miles is Xtreme. It's a strange thing that as a country we have increasing rates of obesity and great fascination with Xtreme physical events. Do I recall correctly that there is/was a tv show having something to do with Xtreme food or eati

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-26 Thread robert zeidler
Cycling, while I love as much as any activety, and certainly more than work, is only one of the things I want to do in life. On Thursday, January 26, 2012, Patrick in VT wrote: > On Jan 26, 10:42 am, robert zeidler wrote: > > > Just a matter if time until we have extreme bowling. > > Another go

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-26 Thread René Sterental
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Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-26 Thread robert zeidler
Where bird watchers compete to observe the most new (to them) birds in a given period. I think there was even a movie about it. Likewise, the Ironbutt Assoc has taken an elegant form of travel, motorcycle touring, and turned it into an extreme endurance event, The IronButt Rally, where riders trav

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-26 Thread jimD
Robert, Uh, what's this 'competitive birding' thingy? -JimD On Jan 26, 2012, at 3:04 AM, robert zeidler wrote: > And that's no knock on Jan. Just the extreme ethos. > It's the same thinking that gave us competitive birding. Taking an elegant > pastime and turning it into an endurance test. >

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-26 Thread robert zeidler
...and when I'm riding in the great State of Vermont, it's always worth the work. On Thursday, January 26, 2012, Patrick in VT wrote: > On Jan 25, 9:06 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > >> But it takes really sick >> efforts to make one, well, really sick. > > that's a very good point. most folks wil

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-26 Thread Lyle Bogart
Ooops! I had intended to include this link: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/diseased-heart-or-athlete-s-heart-sometimes-they-look-strangely-similar Very clear and concise, I thought. Good links within, too. lyle On 26 January 2012 07:35, Lyle Bogart wrote: > Thanks for posting that, Michael.

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-26 Thread Lyle Bogart
Thanks for posting that, Michael. There's indeed a growing body of evidence that strongly suggests or links high endurance activities to a number of cardiac/cardiovascular pathologies with atrial fibrillation being the most prevalent pathology. Interesting there are some studies which suggest the

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-26 Thread robert zeidler
And that's no knock on Jan. Just the extreme ethos. It's the same thinking that gave us competitive birding. Taking an elegant pastime and turning it into an endurance test. On Thursday, January 26, 2012, Manuel Acosta wrote: > Awww.. So does that me I can't start racing cyclocross now? I was > l

Re: [RBW] Extreme Exercize

2012-01-25 Thread robert zeidler
I quit racing in '92-having to pay to wait around all day just sucked. But I like "training ", I like competing against self in a strictly selfish way. I do send my times to people, but only because they've asked me to. I've been shocked at how many elite triathletes end up with pacemakers and ass