On Dec 31, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Bruce wrote:
> It seems that after riding a few minutes, I am used to whichever
> trail the bike I am on has.
I find this, too. Ditto the small differences in position my various
bikes have. By the time I'm a block from my house, I've adjusted.
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You recei
Can't we work in a discussion of how wearing a helmet affects handling in high
or low trail bikes? You know, start multi-tasking these crucial issues? Oh, and
be sure to include a bar bag, and refer to a Roadeo to stay on topic...
Tim McNamara wrote:
Steve Pali
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
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> High trail bikes tend to lock in on a line through corners. This is
> good in that minor bumps and pavement irregularities won't throw the
> bike off course: it corners like it's on rails. However, if you find
> halfway through the
Perfectly clear, obviously, although I meant it for SP and forgot and
clicked everyone.
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:47 AM, wrote:
> huh?
>
> In a message dated 12/31/2009 10:43:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> bertin...@gmail.com writes:
>
> But you said, or seemed to say, or did not take the ex
huh?
In a message dated 12/31/2009 10:43:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bertin...@gmail.com writes:
But you said, or seemed to say, or did not take the extreme care needed
not to appear to say, or could reasonably be interpreted as saying, that high
trail is good only for no front/low r
But you said, or seemed to say, or did not take the extreme care needed not
to appear to say, or could reasonably be interpreted as saying, that high
trail is good only for no front/low rear loading. I take it that, despite
appearances, or interpretations, or sundry ambiguities and biases, you did
On Dec 31, 2009, at 7:27 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 21:49 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
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>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:59 PM, james black
>> wrote:
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>> On the other other hand, I think low-trail geometry is more
>> than a
>> trendy bandwagon
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 21:49 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
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> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:59 PM, james black
> wrote:
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> On the other other hand, I think low-trail geometry is more
> than a
> trendy bandwagon, and is in fact actually superior.
>
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 21:53 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
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> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Steve Palincsar
> wrote:
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> But if the
> target audience is predisposed toward carrying little, and
> that only in
> a small seat pack an
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 20:53, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> So why would low trail be better for me with my rear
> loads up to 40 lb?
Steve didn't say it would be. There seems to be widespread agreement
that high trail is better for rear-biased loads, and low trail better
for front-biased loads. If yo
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 20:49, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> Why is this, exactly? I know it is better for front loads, but apart from
> front loads, are there advantages? I ask because all three Rivs I have owned
> have handled impeccably; I can't think of any improvement to them.
It's a matter of pers
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
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>
> But if the
> target audience is predisposed toward carrying little, and that only in
> a small seat pack and their jersey pockets, a low trail configuration
> that demands a handlebar bag with some weight in it to feel "right" is a
> n
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:59 PM, james black wrote:
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> On the other other hand, I think low-trail geometry is more than a
> trendy bandwagon, and is in fact actually superior.
>
> Why is this, exactly? I know it is better for front loads, but apart from
front loads, are there advantages? I ask b
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 15:59 -0800, james black wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 15:43, Dustin N. Sharp wrote:
> > No, but if you can hit a second audience by simply offering another fork,
> > why not? Randonneuring is growing, and Francophilia is in vogue. The
> > tubing spec and other aspects
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 15:43, Dustin N. Sharp wrote:
> No, but if you can hit a second audience by simply offering another fork, why
> not? Randonneuring is growing, and Francophilia is in vogue. The tubing spec
> and other aspects of the frame would make a good fastish Brevet bike.
I would a
Wouldn't the concept of a low trail additional fork option work for
all Rivendell models?
Or is the low trail also coupled with other geometry changes needed to
fully express itself in a great handling bike? By that I mean that the
current great handling shouldn't suffer at all after swapping fork
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