Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-27 Thread robert zeidler
Nice, dude. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:32 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I was very fortunate (thank you, God -- I got in thanks to > near-subprime-standards at the beginning of the crest of the R E boom) > to find a small duplex in a modestly high end infill project, and this > just before the develo

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-27 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I was very fortunate (thank you, God -- I got in thanks to near-subprime-standards at the beginning of the crest of the R E boom) to find a small duplex in a modestly high end infill project, and this just before the developers realized that they could get much more for their lots than they charged

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-27 Thread robert zeidler
Probably speaks more to starting a family than anything else. That too will pass like anything else, and he'll enjoy it in the meantime. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:02 PM, bfd wrote: > > > On Jan 25, 10:56 am, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" > wrote: >> Car-free and car-light are two different things, a

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-27 Thread Ray Shine
city life isn't necessarily so bad for families. I raised mine here in SF, and everything has turned out quite well, so far (knock on wood). Both did attend Catholic schools, however. Anyway, each son met and married a "city" girl, and we adore both. In fact, one of my daughters-in-law never had

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-27 Thread Ray Shine
You are absolutely correct, Michael. well said! From: Michael Richters To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, January 26, 2011 9:28:03 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18 Perhaps it isn't fair to nitpick Grant Peterson on

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-26 Thread Michael Richters
Perhaps it isn't fair to nitpick Grant Peterson on this, given that I'm generally with him on the spirit of his message, but I seem to have a disagreement with one detail or another of almost all of his points in that post. First -- The Idaho Vehicle Code does not permit cyclists to treat red lig

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-21 Thread robert zeidler
Nah that won't happen. Income will go up, inflation will go nuts and all will be relative. We'll pay more yes, and we'll deal with it. I run a svc company w/ a fleet of 30 +/- vehicles. If fuel goes up, my rates will go up, and on and on. Folks will say, "well we just will use someone else" T

RE: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-21 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
om Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18 This is a fantastic discussion!! No one is calling any names, and we are orbiting around the bicycle in our discussion. On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: > This thread seems to be veering off into politica

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-20 Thread robert zeidler
com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18 > > Send it into space. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Seth Vidal > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:12:21 > To: > Rep

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-20 Thread cyclotourist
:21 > To: > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18 > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Leslie wrote: > > IMHO, the biggest problem is, it's cheaper to get more uranium than it > > is to reprocess the spe

RE: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-20 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
: Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:05 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18 Send it into space. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Seth Vidal Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:12

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-20 Thread zeidler . robert
Send it into space. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Seth Vidal Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:12:21 To: Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18 On Thu, Jan

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-20 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Leslie wrote: > IMHO, the biggest problem is, it's cheaper to get more uranium than it > is to reprocess the spent fuel.   They 'could' reprocess it, and > recover, maybe upwards of 75%, for further use as nuclear fuel;  it > just costs more than getting more.    S

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-20 Thread zeidler . robert
A lump of uranium goes a long way Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: newenglandbike Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 05:19:40 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Edi

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-20 Thread robert zeidler
Problem is, a good size plant covers approx 7,000 acres. Everybody has a bitch when putting one up. I make my own electricity (36 p.v. panels, grid-tied), and heat my own hot water (2 glycol filled , roof-mounted panels), and the utility buys up what O over produce, but only to a point. If the cr

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-20 Thread Stonehog
t they transport the > family bikes by auto to the nearest bike path to do the rides. Of course I > would do that! Such activities aren't "green." They're just family outings; > plenty good enough in my book. > > From: Sean Whelan > To: rbw-owners-bunch@google

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread Bill Gibson
RoadbikeRider recommends: exhale more forcefully than inhale...but it doesn't make much difference in the long run... http://www.roadbikerider.com/463.htm#TRY *7. TRY THIS ON YOUR NEXT RIDE * * Breathe out hard, breathe in easy.* Here's a technique we learned from an Olympic road champion,

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread cyclotourist
But did you inhale? On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Bill Gibson wrote: > although I think I did once, or twice, in the 1970's... > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread Bill Gibson
Rolling stop/Idaho stop/California stop at stopsigns and...traffic lights. If there's any traffic at all, I respect lighted signals. If it's 3:00 AM and nothing has happened for 2 cycles of the light, and the detection loop isn't recognizing my existence, I'll tell the judge that the light malfunc

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread robert zeidler
No complaints, life has been very, very good to me. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:40 PM, robert zeidler > wrote: >> Well then you obviously are flush and for that I congratulate you. >> > > Robert, >  You've just talked about buying multiple bikes

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:40 PM, robert zeidler wrote: > Well then you obviously are flush and for that I congratulate you. > Robert, You've just talked about buying multiple bikes on this list I think you can't protest too much about your taxes. -sv -- You received this message because you a

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread robert zeidler
Well then you obviously are flush and for that I congratulate you. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Scott G. wrote: > > > On Jan 19, 9:14 am, robert zeidler  BTW, the > reason the Euro's >> can put money into bike lanes, alt trans projects, etc., is because >> they don't have much of a defense bu

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread Ray Shine
_ From: Sean Whelan To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 9:53:13 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18 At least they are riding bikes and interested in bikes. While most of us on this list use our bikes for everything from fast brevets

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread robert zeidler
But bear in mind that however, whenever, wherever, whatever they ride It's a free country. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Ray Shine wrote: > You hit the nail on the head, Kelly, and you are spot-on correct.  I am > always amused and annoyed at the same time on my weekend rides into Marin >

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread robert zeidler
Well put Jim. I've read that speech a bunch of times and it's chilling that a product of a military academy (one of the finest educations one can have) would warn us of this impending threat. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:01 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > on 1/19/11 8:04 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@m

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/19/11 9:25 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: > I am very much aware my decision process on this makes me an outlier. And I wholeheartedly applaud your efforts and actions, Joel. Full stop. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http:

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread erik jensen
y'all might consider working to realize sunday streets- / ciclovia-style street closures in your cities on the weekends. it's a great way to illustrate the potential for alternative use of our public street space. I know this happens in many places already, but i think it's one of our better chanc

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread Sean Whelan
of those fancy dual suspension mountain bikes. All biking is good biking in some way... Cheers, Sean --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Ray Shine wrote: From: Ray Shine Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 12:09 PM You hit

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread Ray Shine
You hit the nail on the head, Kelly, and you are spot-on correct. I am always amused and annoyed at the same time on my weekend rides into Marin County from San Francisco. It's very common to see the full suspension MTB folks drive across the bridge and park near Mike's Bikes, take their expen

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/19/11 8:04 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: >> Cycling has many uses and is wonderful .. but riding just for green reasons >> is or would be weak for me. I ride because I like riding. > > I got rid of my car for green reasons. I certainly enjoy riding my > bike. And I didn'

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread robert zeidler
Actually I do ride year round but most people "put 'em away". Starting over every spring like we used to do in the 70's, sucks big-time. Every season has it's joys and pitfalls. It's always worth it as long as you don't finish a ride in an ambulance. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, newenglandbik

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread robert zeidler
14:04 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18 >> From: zeidler.rob...@gmail.com >> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> Living where I live in New England, cycling year round is impractical, >> plus for my business, I have to be places,

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread robert zeidler
Chill my brother The oil lobby has obviously earned it's money. It sucks but it's a reality of life everywhere on this planet. My second comment is actually a vote of support for you not a criticism. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:38 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: >> Dept of Consumer Protection (or who

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
It could be argued that some of us have organized our lives around having to drive everywhere, 30-mile (or more) one-way commutes, living in places where transportational cycling is simply too difficult or dangerous, etc. That's the arrangement that many people choose for various reasons, and th

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The best post of this thread! I agree: if it's not fun, why do it? Too much modern neo-puritanism out there already. Tho' kudos to those who ride in snow and *enjoy* it. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > and then there is organized bike rides that have 100's of people driv

RE: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread jim phillips
Robert, very nicely put. I agree with everything you said. But, we won't use up all the "dino" fuel until long after you and I are gone. jimP > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:14:04 -0500 > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18 > From: zeidler.rob...@gmail.co

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-19 Thread robert zeidler
Living where I live in New England, cycling year round is impractical, plus for my business, I have to be places, sometimes from Boston, to Hartford, to Brattlebor all in the same day. To that end, I needed to able to carry things, people, plow my driveway when needed etc., So I dive a 4 dr Dodge