Re: [RBW] Re: Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

2024-08-27 Thread Heike Larson
What an interesting and thoughtful discussion - so much more nuanced than on our local community lists. I have a Gazelle Class 3 e-bike (which, by the way, is pedal-assist only; Class 2 are the ones with the throttle). I use it instead of a car as a commuter, as I live 5+ miles and 500' of clim

Re: [RBW] Re: Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

2024-07-21 Thread 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch
Just addressing the bike shop comment upstream. It is not the bike shops that are selling the crappy Rad Power Bikes and worse. Those are direct to consumer bikes that, eventually, the LBS will have to help service. Here in Wash, DC, not one bike shop carries bikes they will not be willing

Re: [RBW] Re: Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

2024-07-21 Thread Peter Adler
Turn all the e-bike riders into derny/pace riders for cyclists as in oldie track racing, whether they want to or not; an interesting notion! Peter “and make them wear costumes like rodeo clowns, too” Adler Berkeley, California On Sunday, July 21, 2024 at 7:10:21 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote: And i

Re: [RBW] Re: Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

2024-07-21 Thread Patrick Moore
We agree wholly on the e-bike motorcycles! On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 8:10 AM John Dewey wrote: > Patrick, I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding the kind of e-bike > Steve P rides. > > My beef is primarily with those nameless flat black fat-tire electric > motorcycles driven mostly by children.

Re: [RBW] Re: Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

2024-07-21 Thread John Dewey
Patrick, I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding the kind of e-bike Steve P rides. My beef is primarily with those nameless flat black fat-tire electric motorcycles driven mostly by children. And if we’re opening up big organized rides, then I’m for requiring the SP kind of pedal-assist always

Re: [RBW] Re: Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

2024-07-21 Thread Patrick Moore
I can't agree entirely with John, though I certainly sympathize. My experience with e-bikes is certainly less than that of many other list members, but I've seen far too many polite, slow, and apparently safe riders of e-bikes on our local paths to think that they all should be banned from such pat

Re: [RBW] Re: Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

2024-07-21 Thread John Dewey
And how many of those will end in landfill as they are basically junk day one. I get e-assist for old and infirm but all the rest are a plague. On big rides, eg RAGBRAI, my .02 cents is to have them start an hour earlier…tho RAGBRAI is such a free for-all. I hate the idea of e-bikes on these sorts

Re: [RBW] Re: Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

2024-07-20 Thread Patrick Moore
A local bike industry representative recently proposed a bill to the City of ABQ Council for blanket legal permission for all types of e-bikes along with a 20 mph speed limit, the limit to be moral and legal, not technological. My first reaction was, "Yeah, sure, and you will enforce this exactly h

RE: [RBW] Re: Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

2024-07-20 Thread Bernard Duhon
One huge difference is a “lycra lout” as you , called them, going 25 mph may have bad manners but he has been riding a while and probably a pretty good bike handler. However a newbie going even 15 miles an hour his electric bike is a danger to everyone on the road. Including himself. When w

Re: [RBW] Re: Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

2024-07-19 Thread R. Alexis
Last year on day one of RAGBRAI I saw several e-bike riders. They were fine and I didn't notice them doing anything crazy or our of line. It would suck if you were the only one in a group ride without one. Met a group that was doing a ride from somewhere in Iowa to someplace in Minnesota. Probab

Re: [RBW] Re: Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

2024-07-18 Thread Jon Dukeman
Karl I bought a similar mid drive kit and mounted it on a used Cheviot. I have the kit but sold the frame and fork. My concern was the skinny fork and the weight of the e bike kit motor bottom bracket and battery on the down tube. It's probably was okay but I eventually mounted it on a Surly Ogre.

Re: [RBW] Re: Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

2024-07-18 Thread Chris Halasz
I vote no. Make a separate event for unlicensed motored two wheeled vehicles, or a separate timed start. I foresee many inexperienced and well-intended folks on motorized bikes, at speeds unaccustomed to them, with aging balance and reflexes, causing accidents among the experienced cyclists.

Re: [RBW] Re: Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

2024-07-18 Thread 'aeroperf' via RBW Owners Bunch
Karl— I went with the Tongsheng TSDZ2. 500W. https://www.amazon.com/Tongsheng-Concversion-Central-Bracket-Bicycle/dp/B0CL484F1X/ I’ve only had it running for two weeks, so there’s a lot to learn. This whole thing is an experiment. My end goal is specifically to electrify the Sam, not just have a

Re: [RBW] Re: Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

2024-07-18 Thread Karl Gee
Very cool conversion. I read about the extra strain on the chain in this kind of configuration, I would love to hear more about it for real riding conditions. What kit did you opt for? My choice is to sell off some of my other non Riv bikes and afford a Priority E-bike with a mid drive motor, a ca