[RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-18 Thread 'Shelby Munn' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have a blue 56cm double tube Sam Hillborne frame/fork with brakes I am looking to sell. I will post pics. -Shelby -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-18 Thread 650Bsplease
I've heard great things about both the single and double tubers. That being said the double tube version makes me smile just a bit more. On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 2:53:11 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Curious: what does the second top tube on a 56 cm frame do? > > I briefly owned a 56

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-17 Thread Surlyprof
This from the Riv site regarding the AHH: 65-71cm: $2400. These sizes come with a second top tube (2tt). The 2tt adds triangulation and the strength and anti-twisty stiffness that comes with it, to frames that could use that, due to their longer head tubes. Some people object to the unusual look

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Well, I too choose parts for very largely aesthetic reasons, for that matter: a (old) Dura Ace seatpost instead of a much cheaper one, Compass bar when VOs are half the price, and so forth, when practically the cheaper ones would work as well. Funny, with my off road bike, as attentive as I am to

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread drew
What I meant was, that it is, for me, purely aesthetic. Also, knowing that I can't get a double tube riv in my size, other than a 56 sam, without going custom, is part of it. Ride wise, I doubt I'm gaining much. I like the look, it's unique. Mechanically and logically, it makes little sense I'm

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread drew
What I meant was, that it is, for me, purely aesthetic. Also, knowing that I can't get a double tube riv in my size, other than a 56 sam, without going custom, is part of it. Ride wise, I doubt I'm gaining much. I like the look, it's unique. Mechanically and logically, it makes little sense I'm

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread drew
What I meant was, that it is, for me, purely aesthetic. Also, knowing that I can't get a double tube riv in my size, other than a 56 sam, without going custom, is part of it. Ride wise, I doubt I'm gaining much. I like the look, it's unique. Mechanically and logically, it makes little sense I'm

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread drew
What I meant was, that it is, for me, purely aesthetic. Also, knowing that I can't get a double tube riv in my size, other than a 56 sam, without going custom, is part of it. Ride wise, I doubt I'm gaining much. I like the look, it's unique. Mechanically and logically, it makes little sense I'm

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Can you elaborate? Why exactly do you like the double tube design? On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:06 PM, drew wrote: > I totally get the desire for the special extra tube that may or may not > do anything. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bu

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread drew
I also have a 56 dbl tt sam. I Bought it used and I would be lying if I said that having something that fits me with a, now unproduced, double tube didn't influence the decision. When I got my hunq I really wanted a diagonal 58, but couldn't fit it. I totally get the desire for the special extra

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread Bruce Smitham
I own a 2TT Sam Hillborne and have had a single TT. Both worked great. My 2TT SH works better than all my other Riv bikes. Less handlebar shimmy for sure. Maybe those 2TT provide less flex. Another benefit of the 2TT's is that you can place a full size frame pump between the tubes and it doesn't

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread Patrick Moore
IIRC, the tt on my single tt 56 cm SH was 59 -- that must be right, since my normal road tt choice is about 57 and I know that I had to put the bar on the SH much higher than I like to get the bar close enough to fit (many variables here, but the long tt was one reason I sold the Sam). I'm not kno

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread Surlyprof
I believe the double tt Hillbornes had a longer top tube than the later 56s and 55s. I have a 56 canti Sam with a 57.5cm top tube. I think the doubles were 59cm. I've always liked the look of the double tubes but also agree with Patick that the single tt Sam is pretty solid. It is now my on

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-15 Thread Abcyclehank
The 2nd top tube makes you part of an exclusive club of big boy riders who near 100 cm PBH's yet love 64cm Bombadils and 68cm single top tube Atlantii like myself in Michigan, Robert in New Hampshire, Kelly in Missouri, Amit in Northern California, Ben in Washington, and many others who I do not

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-15 Thread Bill
A second top tube adds two more stylish lugs to an already handsome frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googl

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
Make it stiffer and heavier? On 07/15/2015 05:52 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: Curious: what does the second top tube on a 56 cm frame do? I briefly owned a 56 cm single tt Sam, and the bike was very stout. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:10 PM, 650Bsplease mailto:achatigny...@pointloma.edu>> wrote:

Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-15 Thread Patrick Moore
Curious: what does the second top tube on a 56 cm frame do? I briefly owned a 56 cm single tt Sam, and the bike was very stout. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:10 PM, 650Bsplease wrote: > Hi folks! Looking for a double tube sam, frame or complete. Any leads or > offers are greatly appreciated. > > H

[RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-15 Thread 650Bsplease
Hi folks! Looking for a double tube sam, frame or complete. Any leads or offers are greatly appreciated. Happy Trails Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it