Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-29 Thread Jason Fuller
(To clarify, I am using available-to-customers date for my start date, hence 2008.. which I think is right?) On Monday, 29 November 2021 at 09:54:44 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote: > Now that Ted and Jim are commenting, I feel like this timeline project has > officially made the big leagues haha! Th

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-29 Thread Jason Fuller
Now that Ted and Jim are commenting, I feel like this timeline project has officially made the big leagues haha! Thanks guys! Jim, I was inspired to pick up from what you've already contributed to so much on your page. Ted, that is great insight straight from the horse's mouth as it were. Much

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-29 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Rambouillet were all Toyo-built. The first run (orange) had a mis-positioned rear brake bridge as has been documented. http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/ On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 4:08:20 PM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote: > Regarding builders: Joe Starck definitely built Road and All R

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-29 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
First mention of the Bomba was RR #39, Spring 2007 http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/bombadil/index.html On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 11:10:16 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote: > Aaah so much good insight here, and it's fun to see that others have done > exactly what I'm doing after all! Marty, thank

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-29 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Buffalo was the original name of the Bombadil. - J On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 11:10:16 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote: > Aaah so much good insight here, and it's fun to see that others have done > exactly what I'm doing after all! Marty, thanks for posting that up, I had > completely miss

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-29 Thread AJ
Received my fire red bombadil in 2008. On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 11:32:15 PM UTC-5 Paul Brodek wrote: > I have a Starck-built '98 Custom Road, serial stampings and signature > shown below. Photo is from the previous owner. JS was definitely building > for Riv in '98-'99. > > Paul Brodek >

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-28 Thread iamkeith
Regarding builders: Joe Starck definitely built Road and All Rounder frames. I'm not so sure he built Rambouillets, unless perhaps a prototype or two? It occurs to me that the Roco Bebe kid-carrier bike is missing from your list. On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 1:34:30 PM UTC-7 Fullylugge

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-28 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Those are pretty collectible then! Sent from my iPad > On Nov 28, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > As Ryan stated there are in fact a few RS-made Rivs out there. Very few. > > Joe Bernard > >> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 11:22:14 AM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote: >> Sachs designed the

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-28 Thread Joe Bernard
As Ryan stated there are in fact a few RS-made Rivs out there. Very few. Joe Bernard On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 11:22:14 AM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote: > Sachs designed the lugs used on the earliest models. He didn’t make them > or any frames. Waterford was the earliest vendor and as others

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-28 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Sachs designed the lugs used on the earliest models. He didn’t make them or any frames. Waterford was the earliest vendor and as others have noted, a few other small builders have helped over the years, Nobilette most recently. Toyo did several frame models for a period of about 5 years, and Pa

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-28 Thread Ryan
Steven, you are right about "unofficial customs" like the snapshot of an early catalogue posted by Joe Bernard mentions where it notes a 300.00 upcharge. And Nathan is right that during a peak demand period they used some US top builders for customs and RS was one of them. I think one was for s

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-28 Thread Nathan F
Eric, Sach's decade long waiting list is a recent invention from frame building's explosion in popularity around the late 00s / early 10s. It wasn't always that difficult to have him build you a bike. In the 90s I believe he designed some lugs for Rivendell, and then later made 3 frames or so

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

2021-11-28 Thread Eric Daume
I’ve never heard that they used Sachs as a builder. Hasn’t he always had a long waiting list? I think they’ve used a Sachs fork crown or lugs, or maybe he used theirs. On Sunday, November 28, 2021, Ryan wrote: > Customs...I feel Riv started mixing tubesets(Reynolds/Vitus/Columbus) > and tweakin