[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?

2018-02-09 Thread Tim Bantham
Update for me as well. Called Riv and confirmed that it would not be uncommon for a 62 Sam with a 48/34 big big to result in a new chain being a tad short. I added a link or two and connected it all with two quick links. Guys at Riv said they have done the same on their own bikes without issue.

[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?

2018-02-09 Thread KenP
update: Yesterday the chain broke where I had connected it; so, from now on I will be using a quicklink to connect chains. Thanks you for this thread... Ken P., Alexandria, Va. On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 7:32:13 PM UTC-5, KenP wrote: > > I put 125 links on my Appaloosa 9 speed chain; put

[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?

2018-02-06 Thread KenP
I put 125 links on my Appaloosa 9 speed chain; put a 52 ring in the front and 34 big ring on the back. Works, but it's tight if I run big/big. Bike shop says if I put too many links, the derailleur will be too loose and will scrape the chain. I used a chain tool, to piece together the chai

[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?

2018-02-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
Lot's of chains come with 114 links. KMC chains appear to all come in 116 link length. Do you happen to know how long your KMC chain is? Is is 57" long or 58" long? Or shorter? Maybe your chain is accidentally short? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 5:41:12 AM UTC

[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?

2018-02-05 Thread RichS
Hi Tim: My Sam has a 43 big ring, 28 tooth rear cog and I've ended up with four or five extra links when installing a chain. Like Jim, I've used two quick links on a Clem and the chain was trouble free. Hope you enjoy your Sam. Best, Richard On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 8:41:12 AM UTC-5, Ti

[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?

2018-02-05 Thread jim
I have used two quick links that close to salvage a broken chain. Disn't have any problems. Jim (in COLD Madison WI) On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 7:41:12 AM UTC-6, Tim Bantham wrote: > > I am in the process of building up my Sam and I ran into a frustrating > snag with a brand new chain. Usin

[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?

2018-02-05 Thread lconley
Not surprising, the 48 chainring, 34 rear cog, and Rivendell chainstay length are all on the edge of normal these days. You have run into tolerance stack - too many tolerances going one way and you end up out of overall tolerance - in this case; standard chain length. I bought an extra SS 9 spe

Re: [RBW] Re: new chain

2014-06-29 Thread William R.
Thanks Patrick. Chain saw oil. I have some. When I do put something on this new chain maybe I will try that first. And wipe it very well. Only one ride on this KMC chain. It feels very nice. Shifts cleanly. I notice no difference compared to the SRAM chains I've been using except this has that

Re: [RBW] Re: new chain

2014-06-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Many thanks, Garth. I'll consider this purchase very carefully $10.16 per chain -- not too shabby. I'm asking my brother if he wants to go halves. Ryan Watson? On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Garth wrote: > > Patrick, from what I have read about KMC chains online, in reviews and > such, is t

Re: [RBW] Re: new chain

2014-06-29 Thread Garth
Patrick, from what I have read about KMC chains online, in reviews and such, is that they work as well and better than Sram chains. I too have used nothing but Sram and before that Sedis, but KMC these days is a very good if not better option. Here's the links for the bulk chains, it appea

Re: [RBW] Re: new chain

2014-06-29 Thread Patrick Moore
A recent thread on this list discussed the virtues of chain saw oil; one virtue being the low cost. The thread discussed the dirtiness of chains so lubed, with someone commenting that you can prevent the adherence of grit if you wipe the chain very thoroughly after careful application. I plan to l

Re: [RBW] Re: new chain

2014-06-29 Thread Patrick Moore
These are 9 speed chains? If so, does anyone know if these KMC chains shift and track as well as SRAM chains? I use the relatively cheap ~$20 SRAM 9 sp model. It has been a long time, but I seem to remember that KMC chains I used for fixed were more noisy than SRAMs., but then these were probably

[RBW] Re: new chain

2014-06-29 Thread William R.
Thanks Ted. Now I'm going to open the can of worms! What do all of you out there consider to be "good chain lubes"? I have used White Lightning (didn't like it), Tri-Flow (like it, have some, is this a good one?), T9 (have some, not my favorite, seems to attract dirt more than the others) -Bill

[RBW] Re: new chain

2014-06-29 Thread ted
Bill, The main problem people have with their chains is that they wear, and if you use them when too worn they ruin your chainrings and cogs. Sounds like you have had this problem. The chain doesn't need to be clean so much as it needs to be lubricated. It is also better if you don't wash grit

[RBW] Re: new chain

2014-06-29 Thread William R.
Garth: I really over paid at $14.95 a chain! I got three at that price. Plan to change them out every 1000 miles. Now that I have the super-nice Rene Herse crankset and also very nice SRAM 9-speed cassette. Not sure which model but it has a solid red sleeve for the six largest cogs. Really quiet

[RBW] Re: new chain

2014-06-29 Thread Garth
Yeah . . . . what's been said. . . just wipe it down after each ride. I'm at a point where I don't want to do chain maintenance at all, other than replace them or wipe them . It just seems, well, archaic. We're in the year 2014 and we're still resorting to soaking chains in toxic shmoxic

[RBW] Re: new chain

2014-06-28 Thread EricK
I dampen (not soak) a rag with preferred solvent and wipe the factory goop off the exterior of the chain first. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an emai

[RBW] Re: new chain

2014-06-28 Thread Deacon Patrick
No idea. I always take off the factory lube and start fresh with my fancy schmancy polymer lube. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, June 28, 2014 7:57:37 AM UTC-6, William R. wrote: > > Just installed a new chain (kmc 9 speed) on my Soma Grand Randonneur (Riv > content: noodles, nitto stem, bro

Re: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-17 Thread William
...and I agree with you agreeing with me... On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:54:38 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 13:26 -0700, William wrote: > > > > I agree 70% of the time in the large chainring (mine's a 44) is not > > controversial. But I use my 44x11 less than 1% of

Re: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 13:26 -0700, William wrote: > > I agree 70% of the time in the large chainring (mine's a 44) is not > controversial. But I use my 44x11 less than 1% of the time. If I > used my 44x11 for 2700 miles my knees would be gone, and that 11T cog > would be shot. And I agree wit

Re: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-17 Thread William
"And it is in the smallest cog on the cassette in the largest chain ring. That's where I do most of my riding - probably 70% of the time." I must've misread it then. I see that telling me smallest cog on the cassette in the largest chain ringprobably 70% of the time. I agree 70% of the

[RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-17 Thread Mojo
Ah ha! You ride in this smallest cog most of the time! Take another look but the back side of the teeth on that cog are most likely cupped (increasing slope of the tooth until it becomes an overhang near the top). This is good news as buying a new final cog is easy and much cheaper than a whole

Re: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:33 -0700, William wrote: > I mean this in the nicest possible way, but unless I'm > misunderstanding something terribly, there's no way you should be > spending 70% of your time riding in your highest gear. It makes my > knees hurt just thinking about it. He said 70% of

[RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-17 Thread William
I mean this in the nicest possible way, but unless I'm misunderstanding something terribly, there's no way you should be spending 70% of your time riding in your highest gear. It makes my knees hurt just thinking about it. You should be trying to ride in approximately the 90-100RPM range. "S

[RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-17 Thread pam
I tried looking at the cog but I can't tell much. I'm not very mechanical. I'll look at the chainring too. It wasn't knocked out of adjustment because I watched him install it. I checked the master link. It looks ok. It may be the derailleur but I have friction shifters so I wouldn't think it

[RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-16 Thread William
I needed a small chainring when I did my winter overhaul on the Hilsen. New chain and the hooky teeth wanted to pull it up like precursor to chainsuck. They were pretty sharkfin-ish. On Monday, April 16, 2012 11:48:18 AM UTC-7, Lynne Fitz wrote: > > Check your chainrings. That was the probl

[RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-16 Thread Lynne Fitz
Check your chainrings. That was the problem I had, once. Replaced the chain. Replaced the cassette. Finally took it into the shop. Head mechanic: "did no one look at your chainrings?" Bleriot's chainrings (13500+ mi) are starting to look suspect, but nothing is skipping... yet. Lynne On Apr

[RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-16 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
If it is the smallest cog only, then the stiff link hypothesis has a point in its favor, as the stiff link will be most obvious on the smallest cog, which has the tightest curvature. You can generally buy a small cog for your cassette if it turns out to be worn. Seems unlikely, because most peo

Re: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-16 Thread Peter Morgano
Only skipping in smallest cog makes me think it is a deraileur adjustment, maybe they knocked it out of whack a bit on the install. Did you try adjusting the tension back there? I dont know your level of expertise but if you havent done this kind of thing before just remember to go slow and make s

[RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-16 Thread pam
More detail - the chain and cassette were new last May from Rivendell. I've ridden about 2700 miles and I just learned about keeping the chain clean so I understood I needed a new chain. The new chain does have a master link. If the cassette is worn, do I replace the whole thing? I've only noti

RE: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-15 Thread Joe Bartoe
. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapticcycles phone: 949-374-6079 > Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 19:12:06 -0700 > Subject: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping > From: tki...@comcast.net > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > I agree. Both of those ans

[RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-15 Thread Tim
I agree. Both of those answers are probably the two most likely suspects. Your old chain and your cassette wore together, and when you put the new chain on, it revealed the wear in the cassette that was hidden before. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R

Re: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-15 Thread Peter Morgano
Maybe a stiff link in the new chain? On Apr 15, 2012 8:39 PM, "newenglandbike" wrote: > Hi Pam, > > I'd maybe take a look at your cogs and chainrings (if you haven't replaced > those too), and make sure that the teeth aren't too worn.You'll know if > the teeth end in sharp points like a shark

[RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-15 Thread newenglandbike
Hi Pam, I'd maybe take a look at your cogs and chainrings (if you haven't replaced those too), and make sure that the teeth aren't too worn.You'll know if the teeth end in sharp points like a shark fin. Matt On Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:31:56 PM UTC-4, pam wrote: > > I just got a new