Re: [RBW] Re: chain line and the Quickbeam

2014-10-27 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
I used a bb lockring on the Suzue hub freewheel threading to make it more difficult for a fixed sprocket to back itself off. Worked fine. But, I was still using the rim brakes rather than engaging in high-pressure backpedaling to stop. Since switched to a Phil which is fixed/free and now us

Re: [RBW] Re: chain line and the Quickbeam

2014-10-26 Thread JL
Thanks for the tip guys. After reading this I today set my 'beam up with spare parts. I now have a 42x22 fixed/free flip flop. Jason Leach SF, CA > On Oct 26, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Kainalu wrote: > > Suzue! And I said Suzie, don't even know what I'm rolling... Thanks for the > great chain tric

[RBW] Re: chain line and the Quickbeam

2014-10-26 Thread Kainalu
Suzue! And I said Suzie, don't even know what I'm rolling... Thanks for the great chain tricks and fixed opportunity right in front of my nose. Suzie being the name of my first pup -Kai -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To un

[RBW] Re: chain line and the Quickbeam

2014-10-26 Thread Philip Williamson
I've always been lucky with chainlines. "Oh, cool, that worked." Or else I just don't get into it unles I have a problem, and haven't had any problems. I'm still on the QB's original BB. I've also happily run fixed for years and years without lockrings, but I may have been lucky there, too. I u

RE: [RBW] Re: chain line and the Quickbeam

2014-10-26 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Behalf Of David Banzer Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 11:16 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: chain line and the Quickbeam You can use the rotafix method to install and remove fixed cogs without the need for a chainwhip. It uses the wheel as leverage which gets far more

[RBW] Re: chain line and the Quickbeam

2014-10-26 Thread David Banzer
You can use the rotafix method to install and remove fixed cogs without the need for a chainwhip. It uses the wheel as leverage which gets far more torque than a chainwhip. I've used this method to setup fixed gears for myself on a regular freewheel threading and have never had a cog come loose

[RBW] Re: chain line and the Quickbeam

2014-10-26 Thread Kainalu
That makes sense, you could use another cog on there as a lockring of sorts, and if you carried a chainwhip you could swap your fixed set. Or I suppose you could use your crank and chain as a chainwhip just as easily by using a stick to brake the crank. There must be a thread around here somewh

[RBW] Re: chain line and the Quickbeam

2014-10-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
It's free/free, and I have a 22t free on the flip side. I was told I could put on a fixed gear and it would work fine so long as I didn't do aggressive backpedaling to brake (since I have brakes) -- so that's my plan for "someday" when I try it out. But I definitely like having the freewheel fo

[RBW] Re: chain line and the Quickbeam

2014-10-26 Thread Kainalu
Well worth the effort then, and you're never at a loss for torque. The Phil hub is freewheel/fixed? Or freewheel/freewheel? I was thinking fixed would be fun in the snow and ice but the suzie's lacking the fixed locking side. Might have to find a relatively cheap fixie rear wheel to try it out,

[RBW] Re: chain line and the Quickbeam

2014-10-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
Rear hub is Phil, allen lugs. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, October 25, 2014 6:11:28 PM UTC-6, Kainalu wrote: > > Thanks Patrick, > I knew you'd have the answer, and with wild abandon. And I'm glad we're > gearing buddies, mountain gearing's what I'm after. If I can coax it out of > the d

[RBW] Re: chain line and the Quickbeam

2014-10-25 Thread Kainalu
Thanks Patrick, I knew you'd have the answer, and with wild abandon. And I'm glad we're gearing buddies, mountain gearing's what I'm after. If I can coax it out of the dropout I might stick something racier on the other side for downhillin. You said something about Allen wrench gear shifts befo

[RBW] Re: chain line and the Quickbeam

2014-10-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
Mine is a 113, as it came standard from Rivendell, and I have the same gearing set-up you describe. My chainlink is smooth in both high and low gears. I don't cross chain, so can't speak to that, but expect it would work since the others do. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: chain line

2014-06-26 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Good to know, thanks. I tried measuring, but I'm not too confident in my plastic ruler and less than perfect eyeballing skills. Best I could tell its ~46 mm from the middle of the seat tube to the inner face of the middle chain ring. I'm sure it'll be fine. Jay On Thursday, June 26, 2014 1:21

[RBW] Re: Chain Line

2014-02-11 Thread George Schick
Measuring chain line on the rear cog can be tricky, indeed. It's why I gave up years ago and bought a Park CLG-2 chain line gauge (discontinued, apparently - don't know what their substitute is, if any). BTW, they have a pretty extensive discussion about chain line measurement and shifting/no

[RBW] Re: Chain Line

2014-02-10 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Thanks for all the input. I tried the magic gear thing and couldn't make it work. Looking at the calculator, I think I now understand why. It shows my 40/16 gear as a perfect match with a 100 link chain and the Sam's 45.5 cm chain stays, as long as there is zero (0) chain stretch. It's way off w

[RBW] Re: Chain Line

2014-02-10 Thread Jeremy Till
Measuring chainline on the rear cog can be tricky. My preferred method is to put a straight edge of some kind across the locknut on the driveside and measure the distance between the straight edge and the centerline of the cog. Then, chainline=(Over locknut spacing of the rear hub)/2 minus (d

[RBW] Re: Chain Line

2014-02-10 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
BMX single gear sprockets will fit onto a Shimano splined freehub. It should run reasonably quiet, but if you have a derailleur in the mix to maintain tension, it's not going to run silently. Also, if the chain has been degreased and is a bit dry, it can tend to clatter a bit. One thing I do

[RBW] Re: Chain Line

2014-02-10 Thread Philip Williamson
The term "track cog" baffled me. You have a single cog on a cassette hub? My original Quickbeam chain was really noisy, but the new chains have been quiet. I would see if I could put together a "magic gear" and eliminate the derailleur or tensioner entirely. http://eehouse.org/fixin/formfmu.php

[RBW] Re: Chain Line

2014-02-10 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Thanks, Blakcloud. I'm laughing at the term "spacer kit". I raided a bunch of worn out cassettes for spacers and a few cogs to fill in. I did the lockring like I would for a cassette and it seems tight to me. Cog is Shimano XTR, this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000R39902/ref=oh_detai

[RBW] Re: Chain Line

2014-02-10 Thread blakcloud
I just eye ball it, If it looks straight it probably is. Sheldon Brown has a great article on measuring chainline. If the chainline is off it doesn't rattle, it just makes some noise but it has to be really off to do this. Typically 8/9 speed chains ar