Re: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

For those who tried multiple models of fenders: Which yield the greatest tire clearance for a given outer fender diameter? Specifically, I'm looking for something that does better than the Honjos I'm now running – fluted, clearing 37 mm tires fine, but not 40/42 mm that I'd like to try. It's cl

Re: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

Many thanks. This is very helpful. Cheers, GAJett On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 3:39:47 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: > > My AHH is running 700 X 38 Compass Barlow PAas EL tires. The fenders are > 50mm VO Snakeskin(?). They required very little modification to fit. A > little at the chain st

Re: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

John, I used both. On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 8:26:23 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote: > > Brain > > Did you use a durama bolt/screw to attach the fender to the front fork or > just the forward stay? > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ > > On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 11:40:17 AM UTC-4, Brian

Re: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

Brain Did you use a durama bolt/screw to attach the fender to the front fork or just the forward stay? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 11:40:17 AM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote: > Here is a picture of the Hilsen with VO fenders and Berthoud Stays: > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

My AHH is running 700 X 38 Compass Barlow PAas EL tires. The fenders are 50mm VO Snakeskin(?). They required very little modification to fit. A little at the chain stays and other than that, they bolted right on. On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 3:23:10 PM UTC-4, GAJett wrote: > > What size tires

Re: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

Very much. Works well, looks great and I know the owner, so I was an "early adopter". He is a super nice guy and I wanted to support him. He makes really nice, thoughtful stuff. On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 3:16:47 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: > > Is that a velo lumino tail light dyno? > If so,

Re: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

What size tires and what fender width are you running? Rivendell put on the Schwalbe Marathon 650b x 42's when they built my AHH. Rivbike shows these have an actual 37 mm width. Wanting to know what fender width I can use and/or if I can go with a Compass 42 (Babyshoe Pass) or would need to

Re: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

Is that a velo lumino tail light dyno? If so, how do you like it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.c

Re: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

Here is a picture of the Hilsen with VO fenders and Berthoud Stays: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

I myself have a set of Honjo hammered fenders I installed on my Kogswell P/R in 2006. They're perfectly fine. I have never used VO hammered, but in principle there's no difference: as Patrick says, you have to install the fenders without stress. You can't pull them into line with the stays t

Re: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

Honjo hammereds will break within a year or 18 months if you stress them by using the mounting points to shape them, as I did -- expensive lesson -- torque at the brake bridge; the fender cracked at the attachment point. I expect that the shop did the same thing. On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Lu

[RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

Welp...I will say a shop owner told me that the vo hammereds break within a year at the mounting points. He said the non-hammereds are fine. I have only used honjo hammereds so i cannot comment from personal use. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

Some very helpful observations. Thanks!! No concensus, which is helpful in and of itself. Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners

[RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

I've had 2 sets of SKS fenders, one Honjos, one set of the Soma 650bs and one set of Stainless Berthoud's. Only the Berthouds didn't make want to rip my own head off and toss it off a cliff. - Ryan On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 2:57:21 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote: > > I am eventually going t

[RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

This place was recommended to me. They have hardware that looks pretty good. https://sim.works/collections/fenders-simworks-by-honjo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fr

RE: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

JPW often uses VOs, which certainly is a relevant data point (to me, anyway). From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Minh Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 2:39 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders I own all

Re: [RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

Probably corrosion. If it's just in spots - like where your sweaty sunscreened leg brushes against it when you turn the wheel sharply while standing at a light straddling the bike (as mine are plagued by) - the answer is Blue Magic. If it's all over, evenly distributed making an attractive s

[RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

I love my Honjos. But expensive. Hammered. They are getting a fuzzy white looking patina in them. Don't know what that is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

I own all three (though my Honjo's are on the shelf), the toe-overlap on the fronts are real with the VO. when i got mine the VO were only single eye drilled (at one point i think they were undrilled) so swapping in the Berthoud stays meant drilling your own holes. Now that the VO are pre-dri

[RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

I second the recommendation of using VO fenders (for lightness and drilled bridge holes) with Berthoud stays (for better and less fiddly fit). On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 5:57:21 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote: > > I am eventually going to get around to putting bigger fenders on my > Appaloosa,

[RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

I've had both, returned bertroud fenders when I got my VO fenders in. Not an indictment on Bertroud fenders, just how much VO fenders' quality were above my expectations and were cheaper. Looking now, I think VO bumped up their price since I last checked three years ago, so Bertrouds are only a

[RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

Having used Bertoud's, VO's and Honjos, my answer is it depends on the bike and your wallet. The Bertouds have a slight weight penalty but are very stiff and therefore ideal for bad roads and trails. The VO's are a bit lighter and maybe more appropriate for a rondenee or go fast set up. If I

[RBW] Re: VO vs Berthoud fenders

I personally like the easier to install fender stays of the Berthoud fenders. With the VO it seems like if you don't get the curve of the stay centered in the two darumas (or whatever they are) just right the fender line is always a little wonky. I've got Berthoud 700x50 on my hillborne and was