Re: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

http://tinyurl.com/28wvqgd --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Mike wrote: From: Mike Subject: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:18 AM On Apr 28, 5:54 pm, bpus...@aol.com wrote: > No, but let me give you a hint : EM, and just to make it easie

[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

On Apr 28, 5:54 pm, bpus...@aol.com wrote: > No, but let me give you a hint : EM, and just to make it easier and cut the >  possibilities in half: Mr. EM. Eddie Munster? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group,

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No, it was Eddy Mielsmore On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 6:48 PM, eflayer wrote: > do you mean the famous Belgian, Fabiano Ridemore? > > On Apr 28, 5:13 pm, bpus...@aol.com wrote: > > I agree with Kent, who agrees with that guy from Belgium who said: "Ride > > > more." > > Bill > > > > In a message dat

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Freddy Mertz? On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:48 PM, eflayer wrote: > do you mean the famous Belgian, Fabiano Ridemore? > > On Apr 28, 5:13 pm, bpus...@aol.com wrote: > > I agree with Kent, who agrees with that guy from Belgium who said: "Ride >

[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

No worriesI can dig it and I do agree. One can get stuck in a rut. When I commute in city traffic its always interval training trying to make it through the darn traffic lights. I did this on a single speed for a year averaging 17 miles a day and winding up my rpm to 120+ quite often and th

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No, but let me give you a hint : EM, and just to make it easier and cut the possibilities in half: Mr. EM. In a message dated 4/28/2010 8:48:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, eddie.fla...@att.net writes: do you mean the famous Belgian, Fabiano Ridemore? -- You received this message becaus

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do you mean the famous Belgian, Fabiano Ridemore? On Apr 28, 5:13 pm, bpus...@aol.com wrote: > I agree with Kent, who agrees with that guy from Belgium who said: "Ride   > more." > Bill > > In a message dated 4/28/2010 7:34:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,   > > mjawn...@gmail.com writes: > > Don't

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I agree with Kent, who agrees with that guy from Belgium who said: "Ride more." Bill In a message dated 4/28/2010 7:34:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mjawn...@gmail.com writes: Don't train, practice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Ow

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Don't train, practice. http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-dont-train-i-practice.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group

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What I like to do for training [which is really just errands and just riding] to be able to chase down and satisfy those urges for overtaking pretty much anyone within sight: 1. Ride my Surly "Big Dummy" a lot, and with groceries and 78lb daughter onboard, and do it as fast and as hard as I possi

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on 4/27/10 7:55 PM, charlie at charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: > owww!this sounds like painful "training" ! Yea. Sorry about that. My only point was that it's easy to get in a rut or take a "set" and sometimes takes a concious act to get out. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.

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owww!this sounds like painful "training" ! I'd rather just ride alone or find friends who ride at a similar pace or who are more considerate. I like to push myself now and then and have done so much more in the past than I am letting on here but ghee wizz ! "Training" is enjoyable and

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on 4/27/10 10:25 AM, Darin G. at dbg...@mac.com wrote: > Okay, many great suggestions here and I appreciate the attention to > the topic. I think many of the observations about obsessing less with > how long it takes and enjoying the activity are appropriate. I > typically don't ride with others

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group ride or a century, I have a set of Campagnolo Vento Wheels w/ 23mm Vittoria tires. Same bike. Two personalities. I wish I could leave work right now and go ride right now. It has the fast wheels on. cheers, Sean --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Darin G. wrote: From: Darin G. Subject: [RBW] Re: Speed

[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

Okay, many great suggestions here and I appreciate the attention to the topic. I think many of the observations about obsessing less with how long it takes and enjoying the activity are appropriate. I typically don't ride with others. Its usually just me out there listening to the meadowlarks, f

Re: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:31 AM, stevep33 wrote: > You describe what is called an "f**k you stop."  The faster group > stops to rest only long enough to let you catch up and then the group > starts of quickly before you've had any rest. Not considerate.  I know > it in the context of hiking, but i

[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

You describe what is called an "f**k you stop." The faster group stops to rest only long enough to let you catch up and then the group starts of quickly before you've had any rest. Not considerate. I know it in the context of hiking, but it could apply to cycling too. On Apr 27, 9:25 am, "Bill M

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I'm pretty sure you just described planing. Your IF works perfectly with your power and riding style (and it looks mahvelous, dahlink). What a great combo for you! On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 4:00 AM, Earl Grey wrote: > Not sure this helps, but I find that some bikes make me want to ride > faster

[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

When I need to speed up my Quickbeam I simply switch out the tires from 37c Paselas to 28c or maybe 32c Paselas. Lighter tires equal less rolling weight, quicker acceleration and a bit easier time on steep hills. Not being able to compensate with rolling gear changes on the QB accentuates the diffe

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Fastest season I ever had was the year I spent a few weeks early in the summer helping a buddy roof his house. Full tear off and re-decking, too. That's a core building workout right there! If you want to be faster on the bike, roof a house Steve Frederick, East Lansing MI -- You recei

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On Apr 26, 6:29 pm, charlie wrote: > ..1.5-3 mph slower really?  So an > extra thirty minutes on average to finish a 100 mile ride. That's > about as much time as it takes to eat some bananas and bagels at the > end of the ride and could mean something to you, I don't know but I > seriously

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Am going to support Patrick on this. On my two main bikes, on an average ride, the speed is about the same. But on a ride with significant climbing (for me), the Surly LHT with 26" wheels and Schwalbe Big Apple 2.0 is definitely slower. Believe the tires alone are about a half pound heavier than

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Not sure this helps, but I find that some bikes make me want to ride faster than others. So it's not (necessarily) that they ARE much faster, but they "beg to be ridden hard", to use a cliche. My Indy Fab Planet X is like that, to the point that it's actually difficult to ride it slowly. Probably a

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Interesting analysis; so it's the "surging" that brings out the advantage of a light wheel on a climb. I do notice that I tend to "surge" and, when on a fixed gear, even while sitting, if you are pedaling at a slow rpm, the bike tends to momentarily slow, then speed up as you pedal. I shall have to

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On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:29 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >> > Not when you are climbing; the difference between a heavy wheel and a light > one is amazing. This is going to be truer for a person riding a fixie, or a person (like me) who rides a geared bike but doesn't pedal smoothly. Slowing down

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On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:32 PM, benzzoy wrote: > > I also have significant reservations about the "heavy wheels" > comments. Anyone with a trainer can try this out: Rack each bike up > on the trainer, disengage the drag mechanism, and pedal. Put on some > load and then pedal again. See? The d

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There is one more thing to say in favor of a "racing" position; though this term is really a false one, since it is used by riders who have no thought whatsoever of racing; and that is that it is in a sense more comfortable for putting out power if you like to push yourself. The butt-back, lower ba

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That's a good upgrade, Eddy! On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:41 PM, rcnute wrote: > Ride Up Grades. > > On Apr 26, 9:10 am, "Darin G." wrote: > > Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my > > bones over. I'm new to this type of bicycle. > > > > I need my commuter/tourer Sam

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Ride Up Grades. On Apr 26, 9:10 am, "Darin G." wrote: > Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my > bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle. > > I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a > slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up

[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

On Apr 26, 9:10 am, "Darin G." wrote: > I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course > than I was on "road bike." This bit is very puzzling because unless you're cycling around in a pair of parachute pants, most equipment changes won't drop your average speed by that much. OK, maybe if yo

Re: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Ken Yokanovich wrote: > Here's just an idea... since it sounds like one of your riding > partners is riding your old bike, why don't you swap bikes mid-ride > for a direct comparison?  Is it the equipment or the motor?  Position > or equipment? > > Never under est

[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

Here's just an idea... since it sounds like one of your riding partners is riding your old bike, why don't you swap bikes mid-ride for a direct comparison? Is it the equipment or the motor? Position or equipment? Never under estimate the power of the psychological perception of disadvantage. Th

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i have not tried this brand of wheels yet, but have just learned about them. lightweight and reasonable prices. how unusual. http://www.neuvationcycling.com/wheels.html motors are important, but relatively long wheel based, heavy wheeled, not-light steel tubed bikes, bigger/fatter heavy tires a

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Well race style bikes are significantly faster when climbing due to low weight and light wheels and when going fast due to increased aerodynamics (due to the position your body takes) but..on a long ride they beat you up and its not enjoyable. The Mavic rims are heavy and if you don't n

[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

Last year I did a super randonneur series on a Hilsen that was set-up very simillar to your Sam. I had JB blues, a Sugino triple and some pretty heavy wheels (Salsa Delgados, 36h, XT hubs). While the tires felt a bit sluggish I only had one flat and overall they're fine. I had pretty good times las

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haven't you heard it's not the bike it's the motor! And those fancy lycra togs will make you look fast too. hehe. I would 2nd the other notes... tires and wheels are biggest factor in my opinion, but I'd use some fast 28-30's.. 25's are too skinny! other then that... take off excess weight... r

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I would take off the rack for faster rides/ events and maybe get some narrower tires. Clipless pedals? Then I would smell the flowers. When you do get a new more specialized bike you will be that much better. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

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Forgot to add Nice looking SAM! looks like a great all around ride On Apr 26, 10:53 am, "Darin G." wrote: > If the Roadeo had rack mounts I'd consider it, at least for a rear > with a trunk bag.  I guess I could put a big Arkel handlebar bag on it > or something.  As is, waiting to see if the Am

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Darin I will preface this by saying I am fortunate to have two bikes; a Steel bike with 36h Rims/35c Pasela's racks front and rear etc for comfort riding and a Cannondale R800 stripped down for faster rides but before I picked up my steel ride I tired to make my R800 an all rounder with mixed resu

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If the Roadeo had rack mounts I'd consider it, at least for a rear with a trunk bag. I guess I could put a big Arkel handlebar bag on it or something. As is, waiting to see if the Amos comes to be as the Roadeo is some serious cheddar for me right now. D.G. On Apr 26, 10:57 am, James Dinneen w

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I'm building a lighter wheelset for my Sam (32 hole, narrower rims) to use interchangeably with the 36 hole bombers I have now. In addition to that I'm planning to pull the racks and fenders for fair weather events. On Apr 26, 9:10 am, "Darin G." wrote: > Alright, this will probably sound un-Riv

[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

there is a lot of climbing > involved. > > Can you post the full spec of your bike? Hard to suggest when you have no > other info... > > Cheers, > Sean > > --- On Mon, 4/26/10, MichaelH wrote: > > From: MichaelH > Subject: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam > To:

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climbing involved. Can you post the full spec of your bike? Hard to suggest when you have no other info... Cheers, Sean --- On Mon, 4/26/10, MichaelH wrote: From: MichaelH Subject: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 12:40 PM Well that's

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Well that's a pretty heavy rim & tire combo. Remember it is the wheels you have to accelerate, so weight taken off there will yield the most benefit. I'd consider a second set of wheels. If you can afford it White Hubs, Open Pro rims, 32 spokes with some Michelin 25mm tires. That will help you

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Here's a link for the wheels in other than black 32 spoke. Another lister found these and is giving them a try. http://www.bikemania.biz/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VeloCity_Nuvian&Click=15344 On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:36 AM, cyclotourist wrote: > That's the rub, isn't it. Comfort vs. effi

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That's the rub, isn't it. Comfort vs. efficiency/aerodynamics. I don't know what you'll feel about the looks, but the Velocity Nuvian wheelset is built with Aerohead rims. Arm-chair quarterback mode off. Cheers, David On Mon, Apr 26, 2010

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Rims are Mavic A719s on Deore XT hubs. Don't know that I'd lower the bars as the comfort over distance of this setup is incomparable to anything else I've ridden and is what convinced me I was through with the Roubaix. D.G. On Apr 26, 10:17 am, cyclotourist wrote: > Don't know if it'll give you