Am going to support Patrick on this.  On my two main bikes, on an
average ride, the speed is about the same.  But on a ride with
significant climbing (for me), the Surly LHT with 26" wheels and
Schwalbe Big Apple 2.0 is definitely slower.  Believe the tires alone
are about a half pound heavier than the 700x40 Marathon Supremes on
the Sam Hillborne.

Both bikes are set up pretty similarly, with bars 2 to 4cm above the
saddle.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 27, 1:41 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting analysis; so it's the "surging" that brings out the advantage of
> a light wheel on a climb. I do notice that I tend to "surge" and, when on a
> fixed gear, even while sitting, if you are pedaling at a slow rpm, the bike
> tends to momentarily slow, then speed up as you pedal. I shall have to try
> climbing on the Sam Hill in a low gear (I tend not to downshift for climbs
> except when heavily loaded.)
>
> Still, as Aristotle said, we know the mean from the extremes, and if you
> compare the Monocog's wheels with very light ones, I'll bet my two custom
> made cycling hats that even with gears as low as you please, you'd find the
> lighter wheel easier to get up the hill.
>
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:29 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Not when you are climbing; the difference between a heavy wheel and a
> > light
> > > one is amazing.
>
> > This is going to be truer for a person riding a fixie, or a person
> > (like me) who rides a geared bike but doesn't pedal smoothly. Slowing
> > down and speeding up that wheel is going to take a lot of energy. The
> > smooth pedaller doesn't have that problem.
>
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