Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-05-12 Thread sameness
Regarding the soapy water trick (of which I am all too familiar with a particularly difficult pair of old 26" Sun rims), just be sure not to use so much that you drain into the interior of the rim. It ends up wrecking the rim strip adhesive (at least Velox, anyway) and the tape shifts around w

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-05-12 Thread Scott Henry
Either go tubeless or just put sealant in the tubes. I worry about enough things in my life, getting a flat isn't one of them. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:51 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: > Soapy water and very hi pressure worked very well. > > Michael > > > On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 6:39:48 P

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-05-11 Thread Michael Hechmer
Soapy water and very hi pressure worked very well. Michael On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 6:39:48 PM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote: > > Michael, > > I'm looking forward to trying your mechanic's soapy water trick when > school's out. How did it work out for you? I'm curious because the last > time I

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-05-11 Thread Surlyprof
Michael, I'm looking forward to trying your mechanic's soapy water trick when school's out. How did it work out for you? I'm curious because the last time I mounted my Barlow Pass tires on my Synergies I got to "enjoy" some extra quality time with the bike stand before getting them right. Lo

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-05-03 Thread 'peech1...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch
After experiencing problems with another brand on the 650b Synergy rims I tried the Hutchinson brand bought through Compass. The Hutchinson mounted easily, roll very well, are very comfortable and I am very pleased. Tim Petersen On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 5:50:20 AM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer w

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-05-01 Thread Lungimsam
BQ says that lots of rim wells are too deep, resulting in the tire bead not being able to ride up the sidewall of the rim and sit in place at the clincher part. It is reported that a slipperier rim tape like stans helps, too, so the bead doesnt get hung up in son a grippier more frictiony tape

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-04-30 Thread Michael Hechmer
I think I may have gotten to success. I stopped by my favorite mechanic and chatted about it. He immediately knew what the problem was and said it has become common place with rims designed for tubeless tires. Standard clinchers slip too low at the bottom. He suggested, after making sure the

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-04-30 Thread Lungimsam
Older versiobs of the Synergies were reported to be worse than the newer versions. Not sure how old yours are. Did you try the double rim tape yet? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop rece

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-04-30 Thread Michael Hechmer
These are not brand new tires or wheels. I bought them with a new set of wheels, if memory is good, a few years ago from someone on this list (perhaps the guy who owns a shop in Minneapolis?) and they arrived with pari moto tires. All was good. Last year, I decided to replace the Natty Bum

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-04-29 Thread Lungimsam
Michael, The first mount on Synergies is the toughest. They seat much easier after that in my experience. No crying after the first time. But even with Synergies I had no problem pulling off and putting on tires. It was just the bead seating that was tough. But I found that as long as they were

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-04-29 Thread Tim Gavin
I find folding tires are the most difficult to mount and bead up the first time. They're easier to remount once they've been stretched into shape. However, I have been caught swearing and thumb-wrestling my Lierre tire back into place on a Zac19 rim. More than once. Synergy rims haven't been q

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-04-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 04/29/2016 08:25 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: OP here. So after people go through all these hoops with Synergy rims and get the tire mounted perfectly in the shop, what do you do out on the road when you get a flat? Swearalot & hope you get home safely? I hate the choices - give up flexibl

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-04-29 Thread Michael Hechmer
OP here. So after people go through all these hoops with Synergy rims and get the tire mounted perfectly in the shop, what do you do out on the road when you get a flat? Swearalot & hope you get home safely? I hate the choices - give up flexible ties; or drop $300+ on rims, spokes, nipples, s

[RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-04-29 Thread RichS
My experience exactly with 38mm Loup Loup Pass tires on Synergy rims! Doubled the rim tape, used baby powder and it was still a struggle. I fared better mounting 32mm Stampede Pass on 700c Mavic Open Sports. Richard On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 7:58:29 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote: > > To

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-04-29 Thread Tim Gavin
I use a double layer of Velox tape, and I dab a little liquid soap on the tire beads when installing supple tires. This combination makes mounting Pari-Motos to Synergy or ZAC19 rims approximately 57%* easier. They're still tricky, though. I air them up to ~15-20 psi and then try to "lift" any l

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2016-04-28 Thread Lungimsam
Sorry, 2014 or more recent version. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, sen

[RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-04-28 Thread Lungimsam
My Loups and Hetres practically auto seat on my 650b x 36 hole Grand Bois rims - black label. I highly recommend them. Get the 2015 or more recent versions. Not the older ones. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

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2016-04-28 Thread Sky Coulter
I added some hockey tape to the synergy rims on my saluki. Still not perfectly easy, but much better. Sky in new west -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

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2016-04-28 Thread Bill Lindsay
I have a couple 650B Synergy wheelsets remaining. I experienced some improvement in getting tires to run straight by building up the rim tape. I have a ton (OK, actually only about 50 pounds) of gaffer tape which is basically identical to rim tape. I go three or four layers thick, and things