[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-23 Thread Bill Lindsay
"@Bill could chime in on this" I already have chimed in, and realize that she's getting prescriptive guidance in a lot of different directions. She knows how to reach me if she wants more advice from me. I trust her instincts and will eagerly anticipate the path she chooses. She's a grown-up

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-22 Thread Jim M.
Raspberry Roadeo is definitely the last bike you'll ever need. Have Bill help pick a good used bike for the wait. jim m walnut creek On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 7:34:20 PM UTC-7 Nick A. wrote: > "Me: Well…not necessarily. I have to weigh out all the pros and cons, you > see." > > Lol yep.

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-22 Thread Nick A.
"Me: Well…not necessarily. I have to weigh out all the pros and cons, you see." Lol yep. To quote The Dude, "the ins, the outs, the what-have-yous..." Also one enjoying this conversation. Nick "definitely totally haven't had to talk about bikes in this way with my partner who shares a life wit

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-22 Thread Jay
I haven’t read all the posts (so many, wow!) but I suggest trying a bike with drop bars to see if it’s a possibility for you. A friend, or an lbs perhaps. If the bike fits you well the bars might feel great, or something you think can grown on you with time. Bad fit and likely the bars wouldn

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-22 Thread Laing Conley
The most important thing about a road bike is that it must be orange. My previous club riding bike was an orange Sam Hillborne. My current club riding bike is my orange Rivendell Custom. Orange bikes have been proven time and again to be faster than non-orange bikes. Molteni Orange is the fastest s

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-22 Thread Corwin Zechar
Since you could easily put the same components on either a Roadeo or a Roadini (with the possible exception of the stem - if you had a Roadeo with a threadless steerer), I don't understand how the difference would be in the components. Seems to me that the difference would be mostly in the stan

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-21 Thread Patrick Moore
+1 for this advice. Also, +1 for Bill as docent and road bike purchase middleman. On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 1:23 PM Ted Durant wrote: > On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at 1:12:20 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! > wrote: > > I am, right now, leaning toward a Gallup bike but will keep reading and > lear

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-21 Thread Patrick Moore
+ 1 for road bikes and cataract surgery. Patrick Moore, who has (has had?) both and now rides without glasses or contacts with implanted plastic lenses. On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 7:15 PM Leah Peterson wrote: > Yes, George, 81cm , and here’s where I have to put a plug in for the > cataract surgery

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-21 Thread Patrick Moore
I generally look up to Garth's advice, but I'll contradict him here: the point is not level or sloping top tube but saddle to bar relationship. My "ideal" level tt/fist of sp size is 60X56 c-c but the most perfectest fit of all is on that too-much described '99 Riv custom that has a 57 c-c st, upsl

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-21 Thread george schick
What Ted says, exactly. I began “serious” biking over 50 years ago on a road bike with drop bars and never looked back. That’s not to say that there isn’t merit to other kinds of bars and more upright riding positions, but the “drop” road bar offers those various hand positions. Once you adapt

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-21 Thread Ted Durant
On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at 1:12:20 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: I am, right now, leaning toward a Gallup bike but will keep reading and learning. And right now, I’m heading out to do Tabatas training. I had to look it up. Promises to be the most miserable 4 minutes of my day. Wow

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-21 Thread Leah Peterson
I am headed out to ride but I want to pop on here because I think it’s funny - can we do funny on here? - that I said I was “roadbike curious” and my texts, DMs, email all blew up. BUY THIS ONE! WHAT ABOUT THIS? Web special! eBay link! Bike people are the best and the fun-est people.I am, right now

RE: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-21 Thread Bernard Duhon
pril 20, 2024 9:22 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious @Sally...custom Erickson...that's a nice find, too! On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 9:20:27 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote: I think Bill's onto something. I've never owned a Trek, but I did (still have

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Ryan
@Sally...custom Erickson...that's a nice find, too! On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 9:20:27 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote: > I think Bill's onto something. I've never owned a Trek, but I did (still > have it, in fact) own a T600 or 700 Cannondale I bought in 1988 for the > ridiculously low price of ~$600

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Ryan
I think Bill's onto something. I've never owned a Trek, but I did (still have it, in fact) own a T600 or 700 Cannondale I bought in 1988 for the ridiculously low price of ~$600 CAD. It was a bit of an oddball with 271/4 wheel size instead of 700c and came with a very decent component spec; Deor

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Sally Bidleman
Hi Leah, I have nothing technical to add, per usual; BUT I do have a "new" 30-year-old custom Erickson road bike I bought recently. (My husband and I share a Clem and a Platypus also.) The Erickson happened to fit me perfectly, is steel and stable, but very light and it moves like the wind! It's

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Leah Peterson
Would they love it as a road bike? Or is it kind of all-purpose? Thanks!On Apr 20, 2024, at 7:56 PM, Johnny Alien wrote:Probably a bit of a wait for a Gallop but the slightly lower top tube could give it an edge over standard road frames. I have the swoopy prototype and if it rides the same peopl

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
Leah Here's an exceptionally good value on an exceedingly solid road bike that could hold you over while you wait for the perfect Rivendell, -AND/OR- to act as a test platform for the unknown parts of a potential build concept. This is the kind of value I'd try to sniff out for you: https://

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Garth, I have never thought about level or sloping top tubes other than I just like the mixte design. I did not know this mattered in road biking, huh…. On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:38:47 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote: > Hooray for you Leah ! :-) > > I think a level top tube would suit you better in

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Leah Peterson
Christian! Yes, I well remember you and I’m so happy you got that Platypus. Still my favorite bike of all time. Gosh, I would have loved your opinion had you gotten the Roadeo. You asked why I wasn’t keen on the Roadini. I read a couple of reviews online that didn’t give it the most favorable revie

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Leah Peterson
No idea what my stand over height is, nor do I know how to find outOn Apr 20, 2024, at 5:18 PM, George Schick wrote:Actually, what I was more interested in was her stand over height (SOH).  Riding a regular road frame bike would require whether or not one could "stand over" the bike's top tube wi

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Leah Peterson
Yes, George, 81cm , and here’s where I have to put a plug in for the cataract surgery. I prep those patients and they are my favorite surgeries because they are SO EASY and the results SO immediate that if you have been putting it off, run, don’t walk to the ophthalmologist. An IV is not required,

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Leah Peterson
Bill, I think I would love an albastache build. I ALSO like the idea of you being my personal shopper. I think I’m pretty biased to staying with Riv; I can’t be hurting Grant’s feelings, you know. But I love this Michigan connection! If we did get a road bike and you got all kinds of say-so in the

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Calvin Yolo
I have a 55cm Roadeo with an 83 PBH. Mark said I could have gone with a 56, too, but I landed with a comfortable set up using a 7cm stem and drops that have a 78mm reach. I usually consider a 7cm stem a little on the short side for a road bike, but I have shorter than average arms for my height.

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Johnny Alien
Probably a bit of a wait for a Gallop but the slightly lower top tube could give it an edge over standard road frames. I have the swoopy prototype and if it rides the same people are going to love it. On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 7:23:36 PM UTC-4 bei...@gmail.com wrote: > Leah I was psyched t

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Christian B-H
Leah I was psyched to see this post because you were the #1 influence on me to get a Platypus (besides Lance who sold it to me! Thanks, Lance!). Besides the Platy, which is for around town and gravel and kid-hauling, I also ride my father-in-laws 1990-something Merlin road bike in occasional cl

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Jim M.
I think the Roadeo is the raciest road bike Riv has made. I've seen one 56cm that was built up to 18.5 lbs with pedals. But if you're looking beyond the weight weenie category, there are lots of other options. Rambouillet, Redwood, and Romulus come to mind. And if you're not fixed on 700 wheels

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Brian Turner
I would go with a Roadini, with maybe a Homer or Sam as a second option.On Apr 20, 2024, at 5:42 PM, George Schick wrote:No problem.  But the thing is that I have a bike(s) that I could let her ride to see if she could adapt to a "road bike" frame.  And I "think" I have ones closed to that dimens

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread George Schick
No problem. But the thing is that I have a bike(s) that I could let her ride to see if she could adapt to a "road bike" frame. And I "think" I have ones closed to that dimension that I would be happy to let her test ride to see if they'd work. On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:26:41 PM UTC-5 R

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Ryan
Sorry @George, I did not mean to come off as rude. The 81 PBH detail just stood out because I seem to recall Leah is around my own height of 5'6''-5'7'' ...but vastly younger (I'm 71) and vastly fitter , of course. So I had to go to my own Riv stud books to see what my PBH was...shortish torso,

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread George Schick
Actually, what I was more interested in was her stand over height (SOH). Riding a regular road frame bike would require whether or not one could "stand over" the bike's top tube without discomfort. Riv gives the specifics for various past models for this measurement. On Saturday, April 20, 20

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Johnny Alien
I doubt the Roadeo is a TON lighter than a Roadini. I think the weight details would be in the build more than anything else. As far as bars are concerned drops are fun on a road bike but not required. My recommendation for a non-drop road setup would be the Albastache bars which are IMO the be

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread George Schick
Ryan - sorry. I don't always see things as clearly with my aged ready-for-cataract surgery eyeballs. Nevertheless, it bears repeating. On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:06:11 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote: > 81 PBH was mentioned > > On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:04:52 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote: > >> There

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Ryan
81 PBH was mentioned On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:04:52 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote: > There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and you > won't go wrong! > > On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: > >> Leah >> >> My previous Roadeo was set up as

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Ryan
There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and you won't go wrong! On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: > Leah > > My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road bike, > and I would have used that anyplace anybody ride

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread George Schick
Leah - do you know your PBH or standover height or anything else that might contribute to your being able to ride a regular "road bike" with a more or less level top tube? That would help our giving an answer. Also, do you know what your pedal-to-saddle measurement is? That would be helpful a

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
Leah My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike. After selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike w

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Ryan
Would be ideal if you could find a Roadini in your size and try it outI think it is a significant change even if it's not eye-poppingly lighter than the Platypii and a good place to start if it *has* to be a Rivendell. You'll still get the benefits of the design. If it turns out to be your c

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Garth
Hooray for you Leah ! :-) I think a level top tube would suit you better in the long run as given a good fit, you'll be able to have a good starting point for bar height. Not too high, not too low. You're obliviously fit and flexible, so for road riding use that to your advantage, so to speak.