[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-06 Thread Philip Williamson
That's me, I think. I abbreviate Quickbeam "QB," but I've never said that. Out on a ride a couple weeks ago someone did say, "A Rivendell Quickbeam!" Which seems like what it is. And how could you NOT say "Hunqapillar" every chance you got? Philip On Aug 6, 4:20 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > I onl

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-06 Thread Leslie
On Saturday, August 6, 2011 8:30:53 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: > > Will often abbreviate my bike to Sam Hill. As in "what in the . . . ?" > I've often thought that was a good nickname for it, too... Re-reading what I wrote, I don't mean to imply that I'm so lazy when I speak that I *have* to abb

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-06 Thread EricP
Will often abbreviate my bike to Sam Hill. As in "what in the . . . ?" Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 6, 6:20 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > I only abbreviate on the web when I wrote because I am lazy. In real life I > always say the full name. -- You received this message because you are subscrib

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-06 Thread Johnny Alien
I only abbreviate on the web when I wrote because I am lazy. In real life I always say the full name. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-06 Thread Jim Mather
On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Leslie wrote: > On Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:31:44 AM UTC-4, grant wrote: > > "Rambouillet" is a mouthful compared to "Ram" or "Riv" or "bike", and > although I try not to say "Rambo", yeah, sometimes I do... > I thought "Ramboo" was short for Rambouillet; fewer

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-06 Thread Ryan J
I like to call my Sam Hillborne "Sam," "Hillborne," "Sam Hillborne" or my "Rivendell." I kind of use them interchangeably, but I definitely consider my Sam to be a Rivendell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-06 Thread Joe Bernard
Leslie, I have the opposite problem: I don't like the abbreviations, like "Hunqa". That one drives me crazy. I remember many years ago someone (Beth, I think) refused to say Rambo because it sounded too macho, so she went with Ramby. That was kinda cute. :-) Joe "sometimes say Riv, but try not

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-06 Thread Leslie
On Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:31:44 AM UTC-4, grant wrote: > > *I don't think of a Sam Hillborne as a "lesser" Rivendell just because > it's less expensive than A. Homer or something else. > * > *In the early 2000s I never said anything but it bothered me when somebody > would refer to their

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-06 Thread islaysteve
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[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-05 Thread grant
The issue is "line extension," and some are for it, some against it. Bstone---Panasonictwo bike companies with extreme line-extension--- electronics, car tires, building pylons, rubber polution control products, cameras, home appliances. I think we all like Bstones some, but it was NOT easy to

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-05 Thread Ryan J
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[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-05 Thread newenglandbike
I view each model as a brand in itself; I suspect this is the thinking behind it anyway.Rather than restrict the creative outlet of cool names and graphics for bikes by just doing the same thing every time, they just make a whole new spiel when they design a new bike. -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-05 Thread islaysteve
cm, I wish I could adopt your attitude! Well, I'm trying. I see your logic and I respect Grant's decisions to swim against the current, in many ways. However, my gut feeling is more similar to the OP's: I would like to see Rivendell on my downtube. Oh well, the Bleriot is a beautiful bike i

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-05 Thread Joe Bernard
Is that a Schwinn? No, it's a Hilsen by Rivendell, made by Waterford. Ahh, Waterford..they made my Paramount. No, that's a Paramount made by Schwinn in Japan. Who's on first? Right! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view t

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-04 Thread Rex Kerr
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Ediblestarfish wrote: > This reminds me, I've gotten a couple comments about the nice Schwinn I'm > riding. If it's built by Waterford, could it still claim a little bit of Schwinn heritage? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-04 Thread Ediblestarfish
This reminds me, I've gotten a couple comments about the nice Schwinn I'm riding. They of course did a double, or tripple take when trying to read A. Homer Hilsen on the side, trying to see what it really was. I just grinned and thanked them. I would not have minded pointing out it was a Rive

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-04 Thread Ryan J
I really enjoy the fact that Rivs aren't splashed with the brand name all over the bike too. I'm thinking of my Trek here, that thing says "TREK" in about 8 different areas on the bike. Kind of ridiculous. I didn't know about Rivendells until a friend of mine showed up to a ride using a Hils

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-04 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
In a technical sense using "Rivendell" on customs seems perfectly appropriate to me. For the production bikes, there's a name given to the production model that helps the customers categorize the bikes according to characteristics that distinguish one from another. There are fundamental ways th

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-04 Thread Minh
When i got my Hillborne, i too thought it strange that it wasn't labeled a Rivendell, but i also understood the history of them keeping the customs as Rivendell branded and the off-the-shelf frames as Rivendell inspired. In the end, what does having a Rivendell branded bike really get the buyer?

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-04 Thread cm
I like not having Rivendell on my Ram or Bleriot. I like that the graphics all go together without the need to put the company's name in big letters. I also think the graphics are much better on the non-Customer bikes than the custom-- who doesnt love airplanes, sheep, boats, etc? It helps make

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-04 Thread Peter Pesce
I don't see how "reserving" the Rivendell logotype for customs makes any sense at all. It's the company name, not the model. Schwinn didn't reserve "Schwinn" for only high-end bikes, nor does Serotta refrain from putting "Serotta" on production frames, etc etc. Further, the only people you're "re

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-04 Thread Leslie
A story I've neglected to tell here... A month ago, the kids and I were riding the Greenbelt (our in-town bike/walking trail). I usually take notice of other bikes along the way, hoping to catch the fella that had a green Quickbeam (only other Riv I've seen on the Greenbelt, aside from my Ramb

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

2011-08-03 Thread Joe Bernard
My assumption is that it is the result of "Rivendell" - the original production models from Waterford - becoming the high-end customs, so they needed a way to differentiate the production Atlantis from the customs, then kept at the practice as they became more of a "production bike" company aga