Re: [RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der

2011-04-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
My VGT worked on a weird 13-32 7 sp cassette, just not as well as the immediately post-curlicue Shimano long cage I replaced it with. I had a Superbe Pro rd that worked well on a 7 or 8 sp cassette. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: > That said, I have SunTour Cyclone Superbe P

Re: [RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der

2011-04-07 Thread Tim McNamara
That said, I have SunTour Cyclone Superbe Pro rear derailleurs on both my A/R (135 mm, 12-24 7 speed f/w) and my Ritchey road bike (130 mm, 12-28 8 speed). Both function without a hiccup (friction downtube shifting in both cases). On Apr 7, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Minh wrote: > So i use my Suntour

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2011-04-07 Thread William
I'm totally with you on the cheap part. The cheapskate in me hates buying something that doesn't work at all. I bought an early 90's XC pro front and rear derailer, only to find that I couldn't make it take a 32 tooth cog. It was only $40 that I spent on F+R, but I'm such a cheapskate that $40 w

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2011-04-07 Thread Minh
William, So i use my Suntour XC pro on my Hillborne (135mm PW free wheel, but only 6 speed). I have an early 90's XT (the pewter painted one, not the black plastic one) on my cruiser and that's a 130mm 7 speed cassette. my bridgestone uses a road-der (not labeled, it's silver), and that's a 126

[RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der

2011-04-07 Thread William
Speaking of derailing (teehee)if the OP is still a list member who is asking for a derailer recommendation for a Bombadil, then I'd disagree with all of these vintage 5/6 speed derailers. I am totally convinced that a deerhead XT or a Duopar, or a Rally might work perfectly for those of you wh

Re: [RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der

2011-04-07 Thread Ken Freeman
Not to derail the happy debate, but to the OP: have you considered a Huret Duopar or EcoDuopar? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, rob markwardt wrote: > I agree about the 70 SunTours (VGT and the Luxe versions...great > stuff), however, the Shimano Crane is IMO a great derailleur as well. > Mine h

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2011-04-06 Thread rob markwardt
I agree about the 70 SunTours (VGT and the Luxe versions...great stuff), however, the Shimano Crane is IMO a great derailleur as well. Mine has lasted a little longer than yours...I think it's going on 40 years. Just got back from an hour ride and didn't miss a shift. http://farm3.static.flickr.co

Re: [RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der

2011-04-06 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 12:51 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I owned and used a couple of VGTs and didn't find that they shifted > all that well; perhaps I am just inexperienced in the more mundane > models available at the time. I know that I was surprised at how much > better an old, early '80s, jus

Re: [RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der

2011-04-06 Thread cyberblessing
was happy to convert them to money. \ Best to all. david - Original Message - From: "bicyclebill" To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2011 10:19:08 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der I don't have a bias in this discussion but thought you would

Re: [RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der

2011-04-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I owned and used a couple of VGTs and didn't find that they shifted all that well; perhaps I am just inexperienced in the more mundane models available at the time. I know that I was surprised at how much better an old, early '80s, just-pre-indexing Shimano long cage shifted over my bastard 7 speed

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2011-04-06 Thread Jim Cloud
Thanks, that's a very interesting website! The Campagnolo Rally rear derailleur was, in my opinion, quite heavily influenced by the Shimano Crane GS. At the time, however, SunTour probably had the best functional design with their VGT. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Apr 6, 8:19 am, bicyclebill wrote:

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2011-04-06 Thread bicyclebill
I don't have a bias in this discussion but thought you would all like to visit this website for remarkable information on derailleurs: http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/Home.html Good luck, Bill On Apr 6, 10:59 am, Jim Cloud wrote: > I've used a late version of the Rally rear derailleur > (h

Re: [RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der

2011-04-06 Thread Eric Norris
Nice bike! I'm using a modern SunRace 7-speed freewheel and a Sachs chain with my Rally. As noted by another commenter, the newer freewheel and chain probably account for the improvement in shifting compared to what it was back in the day. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheels

[RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der

2011-04-06 Thread Jim Cloud
I've used a late version of the Rally rear derailleur (here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964304@N05/4880410555/in/set-72157624699133170 ) for about the last 14 years on my vintage Paramount. It works quite well. I do notice that the Rally works better with a SunTour Winner Pro or Sachs freewh