I don't have a bias in this discussion but thought you would all like
to visit this website for remarkable information on derailleurs:

http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/Home.html

Good luck,
Bill

On Apr 6, 10:59 am, Jim Cloud <cloud...@aol.com> wrote:
> I've used a late version of the Rally rear derailleur 
> (here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964304@N05/4880410555/in/set-721576246...
> )  for about the last 14 years on my vintage Paramount.  It works
> quite well.  I do notice that the Rally works better with a SunTour
> Winner Pro or Sachs freewheel than the old Regina freewheels that were
> available when the Rally appeared.
>
> Jim Cloud
> Tucson, AZ
>
> On Apr 5, 10:23 pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It's a dual pivot so it does mimic the SunTours in that regard, but I have 
> > never seen a Rally that was a slant parallelogram design and that was the 
> > other key thing in improving shifting.  IIRC the Rally was discontinued 
> > before the SunTour patent expired and Shimano pounced on it.  I'd have to 
> > go look at the Campy timeline.
>
> > The Rally derailleurs do shift better with modern cog profiles and flexible 
> > 3/32" chains; they were terrible back in the day of 5 speeds.
>
> > On Apr 5, 2011, at 11:10 PM, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> > > Actually, mine shifts very nicely, probably because its design mimicked 
> > > Japanese derailleurs of the time. This particular Rally is on my PBP bike.
>
> > > --Eric
>
> > > On Apr 5, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
>
> > >> On Apr 5, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> > >>> Campagnolo Rally.  Friction shifting ... Retro ... Beautiful ... Is 
> > >>> there any other choice?
>
> > >> Almost anything else.  Those derailleurs shifted very poorly, even by 
> > >> Campagnolo standards of the time.  Any cheap SunTour contemporary 
> > >> derailleur shifted much better.  Campy was behind the curve in 
> > >> derailleur performance for years and years.
>
> > >> Purty, though.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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