[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-27 Thread Braxton Colagross
Because the seat lug is the same on all sizes? Seat stay angle can't change so the stays curve. Maybe throw in a little "Grant likes to do strange/interesting things every now and then." On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:26:00 PM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote: > > I noticed the chainstays have a slig

Re: [RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-26 Thread Philip Kim
seatstays “chainstays”? >> >> >> >> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] >> *On Behalf Of *dougP >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:04 PM >> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: I test rode t

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-26 Thread iamkeith
I wonder if there will be enough "S" decals included in the name-it-yourself kit option, to immortalize this on the down tube. On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 8:08:31 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Och! Bill! Clearly you know this in all your glorious humility (grin), but > that is the clear

RE: [RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-26 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
: I test rode the Clem CLEMENTINE: the Classy Lassie with the Sassy Chassis You're welcome -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to r

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och! Bill! Clearly you know this in all your glorious humility (grin), but that is the clear winner among my lassies! With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 7:36:50 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > CLEMENTINE: the Classy Lassie with the Sassy Chassis > > You're welcome -- Yo

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-26 Thread Kieran J
HAHA On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:36:50 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > CLEMENTINE: the Classy Lassie with the Sassy Chassis > > You're welcome -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and sto

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-26 Thread Montclair BobbyB
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[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-25 Thread iamkeith
You're on FIRE lately, Bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send emai

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
CLEMENTINE: the Classy Lassie with the Sassy Chassis You're welcome -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegro

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-25 Thread KC
May i suggest "sassy"? Seems to speak of the pure fun these will be. Great fun to have an excuse to buy clementines and months to think how to build them up -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
-owne...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem > > > > " The chainstays are not perfectly straight in the horizontal plane. > They jig-jag a bit to get around the fat tires and to clear the pedals." > > Bill: Are the chainstay bends si

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
No, the Atlantis chainstay swoop is a lot snazzier. The Atlantis features the nicest chainstay bends I've ever seen. The Clem is less bend and more squish. But they are loong so they didn't need to get squished all that much. They are just normal. On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:04

RE: [RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-25 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Are we sure OP isn’t mistakenly calling the bent seatstays “chainstays”? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dougP Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:04 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-25 Thread dougP
" The chainstays are not perfectly straight in the horizontal plane. They jig-jag a bit to get around the fat tires and to clear the pedals." Bill: Are the chainstay bends similar to the ones on the Atlantis? dougP On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 3:43:49 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I di

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
I didn't see Grant when I rode the Clem. I am not sure I follow which bend you mean. The chainstays are not perfectly straight in the horizontal plane. They jig-jag a bit to get around the fat tires and to clear the pedals. Is there some other aspect you are looking at? Now they say the $70

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-25 Thread Philip Kim
I noticed the chainstays have a slight bend to them. Did you happen to ask Grant why that was? On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 3:21:27 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I rolled by RBW HQ this morning and got to test ride a 52cm Clem. I've > always felt lucky that I'm pretty much exactly Grant-si

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-24 Thread dougP
That's Norton from the Honeymooners TV show (c. '50s) climbing out of the manhole. The patron saint of wet utility workers everywhere. dougP On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 5:19:44 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I'm trying to decide whether my favorite tiny detail is the Anvil, the "A > Tou

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Man climbing out of the sewer?? Dude, that is *cool!* On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 5:19:44 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I'm trying to decide whether my favorite tiny detail is the Anvil, the "A > Tough Bike to Love" slogan, or the man climbing out of the sewer: > > >

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-24 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Wow... one more, Patrick, and you'll have a full 'case o' Clementines... I agree with your family... Maybe the drawing should feature a snazzy, curvy lady standin' on that manhole cover with ol' Clem down in the hole... just sayin.. On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 8:33:46 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patri

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-24 Thread Deacon Patrick
Though we're getting five of the Clementines, after seeing the Clem drawing and slogan my wife and daughters agree the Clementine's misses the boat a wee bit. "Fancy yet affordable." A diamond. No drawing. She proposed "Snazzy," or something that doesn't imply delicate as "fancy" does. "Snazzy,

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-24 Thread Bill Lindsay
I'm trying to decide whether my favorite tiny detail is the Anvil, the "A Tough Bike to Love" slogan, or the man climbing out of the sewer: On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 11:11:55 AM UTC-7, CMR

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-23 Thread Christopher Miller Rosales
Bill, I am a bit of a perfectionist builder myself. I like to step back and make sure everything on the bike fits into a certain theme/model while remaining utilitarian. My thoughts on ordering the frame are exactly yours. An easy bike, hop on and ride, don't think about it. Get some tacos and

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-22 Thread dougP
"I dunno. If everyone on these lists was "just riding" the discussions would get stale really fast. " Will: You're right about that. My idea was that, amongst our collection of bikes, we should have one bike that was a "just ride" bike. Heck, I'm a minimalist & I've got 3 bikes, all of which

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-22 Thread Will
I dunno. If everyone on these lists was "just riding" the discussions would get stale really fast. I enjoy learning about the more esoteric issues: 9-6-9 vs 7-5-7. 650 vs. 559. Dynamo vs. battery. High vs. Low trail. The technology behind bicycles fascinates. Mostly I wonder when lightning

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-22 Thread dougP
" Who cares what butt lengths you have when that's what you are doing on your bike? " Bill, that's a brilliant closing to an excellent post. The idea the Clem is the "just ride" bike from Rivendell seems spot on. Perhaps we should all have one bike that's our "just ride" bike. dougP On Sa

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-21 Thread Joe Bernard
Bill, if you don't have a blog, you should start one..you're pretty good at this writing thing. I've never bike-camped, and you're description of hitting those East Bay spots makes me want to. Hmm, RBW sells camping gear... Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 9:08:03 AM UTC-

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ahhh. That's were not having short term memory is a blessing! I don't remember how much me beastie was. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 2:06:47 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Thanks Deacon, but to be clear, I have no problem riding my Bombadil hard, > but I do have

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-21 Thread Bill Lindsay
Thanks Deacon, but to be clear, I have no problem riding my Bombadil hard, but I do have to actively choose to forget how expensive it is. I also have a nice beater in my Paramountain (with Bosco Bullmooses). I might have a Clem on the way, but I don't have one on the way yet. B On Saturda

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
Hey! Bill! I am thankful you found a problem I don't have! I have no problem abusing my Hunqapillar, to which the numerous dings in the paint attest. Grin. I am so glad you have a quality beater on the way! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-21 Thread Liesl
Bill, your post with introspection on perfecter-builds and the Clem was really lovely. I'm especially touched by the lines, "Those bikes [the Clems], I'm completely convinced, could make me completely happy, and that would be the first off-the-rack complete bike that could do that since I was 1

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-21 Thread Bill Lindsay
The Clem rides like a Rivendell, meaning very nicely. It's stout like my Bombadil, but definitely more laid back and cruiserish. The thing that the Clem does for me is more about me. I'm a super detailed bike builder. I'm extremely proud of many of my builds, and I dwell on them a lot. I'

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-21 Thread DSat
Which current Riv bike model would be the most similar to the Clem? I realize the Clem is different, but try and explain where it fits into the current bike model lineup. On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 3:21:27 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I rolled by RBW HQ this morning and got to test ride

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-20 Thread Surlyprof
Bill, How'd it compare to the other Rivs you own? You appear to have enough to be considered a reliable authority. John On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 12:21:27 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > I rolled by RBW HQ this morning and got to test ride a 52cm Clem. I've > always felt lucky that I'm p

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
My saddle height is 75.5. Grant might be 75. Sorry, I could have photographed it, but I didn't On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 1:30:57 PM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: > > Do you know the saddle height and is there a photo of this specific bike > somewhere online? > > > > On Friday, March 20, 2015

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-20 Thread Deacon Patrick
Awesome! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send em

[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

2015-03-20 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Do you know the saddle height and is there a photo of this specific bike somewhere online? On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 2:21:27 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I rolled by RBW HQ this morning and got to test ride a 52cm Clem. I've > always felt lucky that I'm pretty much exactly Grant-sized