Bill, your post with introspection on perfecter-builds and the Clem was 
really lovely. I'm especially touched by the lines, "Those bikes [the 
Clems], I'm completely convinced, could make me completely happy, and that 
would be the first off-the-rack complete bike that could do that since I 
was 12.  That's magic, to me. " And your thoughts about potential Atlantis 
riders and their perspectives on cost and rough riding are astute.  I know 
that I'm more careful with my raffle-won Custom than I am with my Saluki 
than I am with my ProtoBleriot.  AND I know when I picked up the custom, 
Grant made it clear that he expects me to ride it in the snow, etc.  So I 
have ridden it in the snow, fretted, and then completely washed it after 
every snow ride.  That doesn't happen to the proto.  

The point:  The Clem/clementine might just be the ultimate "Just Ride" Riv.

thanks for your thoughtfulness
-RCW

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