[RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-31 Thread Darin G.
So, gave the Sam a few rides after adjusting the headset and it started indexing again, primarily in the dead-ahead position, and resumed scaring the hell out of me twisty curves. So I decided to just replace the headset. Had the shop that built the bike install an IRD Interloc as opposed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-29 Thread jamison brosseau
i doubt a new headset will cure shimmy. most of the time its not really a big deal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GgqhyJ9VjSwJ

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-29 Thread Brett Lindenbach
great! you won't be disappointed. apparently these things never index. bon apetit! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yzdzbfQdbUIJ. T

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-29 Thread René Sterental
So you mean that this might not be the needle bearing one? Bummer! On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 12:59 -0700, René Sterental wrote: > > Thank you! > > > > I found the apparently discountinued Stronglight A9 online in WI and > > ordered one to giv

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 12:59 -0700, René Sterental wrote: > Thank you! > > I found the apparently discountinued Stronglight A9 online in WI and > ordered one to give it a try. Unless you found the cartridge bearing headset that was introduced after the roller bearing headset of the same name was

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-29 Thread René Sterental
Thank you! I found the apparently discountinued Stronglight A9 online in WI and ordered one to give it a try. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To u

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-29 Thread Brett Lindenbach
I believe that Stronglight makes (or made) really nice ones. I have one on my Blériot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/a8rd_sZNi1g

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-28 Thread Rex Kerr
Years ago my first LBS bike had a threaded headset which kept coming lose. I took it back to the shop where I bought it multiple times, and finally he just cranked it down tight. (On a side note, the cup/cone BB kept coming loose too, so perhaps he didn't know anything about bearing adjustment).

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-28 Thread René Sterental
I have found the Miche Primato threaded headset online. Is this the only Miche headset or are there different models for our Riv bikes? René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-28 Thread Peter Pesce
Thanks. Sorry for the mis-information. I should know better than to repeat something I read on the internet somewhere! :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 10:49 -0700, Rene Sterental wrote: > That was the term... Needle bearing headsets! > > Does anyone know where they can be found? In addition to the Miche, there's also the VO Roller Bearing headset: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/headsets/vo-roller-beari

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-28 Thread Ryan Watson
The Miche needle bearing headset is, as far as I know, still available. Rene Herse/Boulder Bikes has them. It totally cured my Shimmy Monster (650B Boulder All-Road prototype) Ryan On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:25, Peter Pesce wrote: > I think Jan Heine once said needle bearing headsets help. > I

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-28 Thread Rene Sterental
That was the term... Needle bearing headsets! Does anyone know where they can be found? Thanks Pete! On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Peter Pesce wrote: > I think Jan Heine once said needle bearing headsets help. > I read somewhere that the one he prefers (Miche, I think?) is, of course, > out

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-28 Thread Peter Pesce
I think Jan Heine once said needle bearing headsets help. I read somewhere that the one he prefers (Miche, I think?) is, of course, out of production. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-28 Thread Rene Sterental
I have a CK headset on my Atlantis and am considering it's replacement since the bike shimmies a lot at speed. I read CK headsets were notorious for enhancing shimmy. I've read here that shimmy is significantly reduced by ball and something types of headsets. If anyone can point me in the right di

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-28 Thread Peter Pesce
I had a good LBS install a Chris King on my Sam over the winter after the original Tange started feeling wonky. Granted, the Tange was installed by Riv but set-up by me, which easily explains the issue! ;) The Chris King is beautiful. I agree with Ryan that going with the best for parts you rare

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-27 Thread Ryan
Chris King..I think the 1" models 2-nut...not cheap I'll admit but can set it or have it set...and forget it.Your Riv and your piece of mind is worth the $. Go to a good LBS to get this properly installed though I don't think it's a dumb idea to spend good money for precision-made parts (that m

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-26 Thread erik jensen
depends where you live. On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > Most shop kids have never seen a threaded headset. > > -- oakland, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this gro

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-25 Thread Joe Bernard
Most shop kids have never seen a threaded headset. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HMIrBMqQXBUJ. To post to this group, send email

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-25 Thread cyclotourist
It is really hard to find a competent LBS... :-( On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Darin G. wrote: > So, dealt with three shops this a.m. Called the shop where I took the > bike the first time and they didn't have the tools for sale but > offered to order them. Called a second shop and they sai

[RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-25 Thread newenglandbike
Darin, glad to hear you got it sorted out... I lol'd at the part where you left the shop in disgust, but not before letting your child climb on their water bottle display :D Anyway sounds like you found a pretty good shop in the process. As far as the ball-bearing cages, my understanding is t

[RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-25 Thread Darin G.
So, dealt with three shops this a.m. Called the shop where I took the bike the first time and they didn't have the tools for sale but offered to order them. Called a second shop and they said they had the tools but when I got there they didn't have them and when I complained the manager said he m

[RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-25 Thread Phil Bickford
Hi Daren - Getting the tools for the job sounds like a step in the right direction. I'd write off that first shop. The second shop, however should have done the test ride themselves before they allowed you to take it home. Doing an adjustment like this yourself is a good start in self reliance.

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-25 Thread newenglandbike
Dunno if yours is a Tange or Shimano with the cages, but to prevent a notchy feeling in the headset some folks recommend removing the ball bearings from the bottom cage, adding enough to fill the void (save one or two), and re-installing the headset with the lower bearings 'loose' between the r

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-25 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Darin G. wrote: > This bike has been to two shops this month--the first one didn't even > consider the headset (it was loose when they returned it) and failed > to properly tune the drivetrain while charging me north of $100 for > their "recommended" deluxe tune-u

[RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-25 Thread Darin G.
This bike has been to two shops this month--the first one didn't even consider the headset (it was loose when they returned it) and failed to properly tune the drivetrain while charging me north of $100 for their "recommended" deluxe tune-up. Not happy. At the second shop where I bought the bike

[RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-25 Thread George Schick
The OP's issue is exactly why I bought a lot of my own bike tools decades ago. Seems like the LBS's have gotten worse over the years, too, and I notice that many of them now employ part time kids. Can't necessarily fault 'em for that; I realize they don't make a lot of money. But if there are ju

[RBW] Re: Headset Issue

2011-07-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Too tight. If it only "indexed" at the straight-ahead position, you'd probably have a bigger problem, but tight all the way through the range of motion is a tight headset. If you have the wrenches, back off the locknut, loosen the headset cup a quarter turn, then hold that baby steady while you