I hope it does make them Smile. I'm taking advantage of their really
generous SmileTrain promo to buy the Orange powdercoated 56cm Bomba on
the Frame Specials page. I'm smiling on the economics of it.
I give $250 to Smile Train, so Smile Train smiles
I buy an in-stock Bombadil, so I smile and R
That would make John, Keven, et al smile ...
From: William
I guess I should buy that Bomba to accept these tires, too.
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Looking forward to my pariI mean pair.
I checked out the prototype 1 on the shelf at Riv-HQ yesterday, and
the tread was CRAZY thin. I'm glad Kirk put a little bit more meat on
them.
I guess I should buy that Bomba to accept these tires, too.
On Feb 12, 5:17 pm, Bruce wrote:
> Just an FYI
On Feb 14, 4:23 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> It might be, if the pavement was bad enough.
absolutely. some "pavement" is worse than unpaved surfaces. for the
sake of argument, however, i'm thinking paved roads in good condition
for road riding.
38mm sounds real nice for mixed terrain ride tha
On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 12:58 -0800, Patrick in VT wrote:
>
> On Feb 13, 4:53 pm, "Bill M." wrote:
> > If Jan Heine's theories on
> > tire width and rolling resistance are true, the P-M should be faster
> > on the road than the Cypress.
>
> That's not entirely accurate. One question that hasn't
On Feb 13, 4:53 pm, "Bill M." wrote:
> If Jan Heine's theories on
> tire width and rolling resistance are true, the P-M should be faster
> on the road than the Cypress.
That's not entirely accurate. One question that hasn't been answered
or tested is a what point the advantages of wider tires
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:04 AM, rswat...@me.com wrote:
>
>
> Depends on which Grand Bois. The Ourson is good in dirt, but the Hetre not
> so much. It's all Cush and no traction. It's OK to an extent, but if it gets
> steep it starts slipping on me.
> It's still my favorite tire, but I take the T
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 13:53 -0800, Bill M. wrote:
> True, 38 mm is huge for a road tire.
Even 42 isn't HUGE for a road tire. It all depends on how much you
weigh, and what sort of shape the roads are where you ride.
If you ride a lot on chipseal or badly broken pavement, 38-42mm is an
ideal size
True, 38 mm is huge for a road tire. But the Paris-Moto will be 50
grams lighter than a Maxy Fasty, barely heavier than a 650b x 32 mm
Cypress, but 5 or 6 mm wider than either. If Jan Heine's theories on
tire width and rolling resistance are true, the P-M should be faster
on the road than the Cyp
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 11:48 -0800, Bruce wrote:
> It's sold as an "event" tire. As in a race day set of rubber. Not what
> you want for an off pavement ramble through goatheads.
Well, I'm not sure it's quite that bad - the thickness is well in line
with the Grand Bois Cypres, and I use that as a g
It's sold as an "event" tire. As in a race day set of rubber. Not what you want
for an off pavement ramble through goatheads.
From: Steve Palincsar
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
And we knew from the start, this was to be a tire of the "fast, light"
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 10:04 -0700, rswat...@me.com wrote:
> Depends on which Grand Bois. The Ourson is good in dirt, but the Hetre
> not so much. It's all Cush and no traction. It's OK to an extent, but
> if it gets steep it starts slipping on me.
> It's still my favorite tire, but I take the
On Feb 13, 11:32 am, Steve Palincsar wrote:
38mm is huge for dedicated paved road tire. personally, I don't see
any reason to ride a tire this big *unless* it's going to be used on
mixed terrain - which doesn't necessitate super heavy duty tires. my
point is that, if the pari-moto can't handle
On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:32, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:37 -0800, Patrick in VT wrote:
On Feb 13, 12:56 am, "Bill M." wrote:
I expect to restrict the P-M's to paved roads . . .
That'd be a shame! I don't see the value in a 38mm tire that can't
be ridden on dirt. I
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:37 -0800, Patrick in VT wrote:
> On Feb 13, 12:56 am, "Bill M." wrote:
> > I expect to restrict the P-M's to paved roads . . .
>
> That'd be a shame! I don't see the value in a 38mm tire that can't
> be ridden on dirt. I guess I'll find out soon enough, but if the Par
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 08:10 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
> "I think you're worrying unnecessarily..."
>
> What else is there to do this time of year!
Around here, there's plenty of snow shoveling to occupy your time. I
feel as though I am living in the film "Woman in the Dunes"...
And consider that 2mm of tread is right between a Roll-y Pol-y with
1.5mm and a Ruffy Tuffy with 2.5, so we're not talking about Schwalbe-
style thicknesses.
I would have been curious to try the 1.5 version, actually, since I
rather dig the Roll-y Pol-y.
Aaron
On Feb 13, 7:09 am, Steve Palincsar
"I think you're worrying unnecessarily..."
What else is there to do this time of year!
On Feb 13, 9:09 am, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 20:50 -0800, John Speare wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Esteban wrote:
>
> > > Great news! I saw the early model at Riv a few w
On Feb 13, 12:56 am, "Bill M." wrote:
> I expect to restrict the P-M's to paved roads . . .
That'd be a shame! I don't see the value in a 38mm tire that can't
be ridden on dirt. I guess I'll find out soon enough, but if the Pari-
Moto is too fragile for serious mixed terrain use, I'll revert
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 20:50 -0800, John Speare wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Esteban wrote:
> >
> > Great news! I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was
> > too thin. This is gonna be an awesome tire. It must be pretty darn
> > good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm H
>From the latest Riv Reader on the Paris-Moto:
"The sample shown actually weighs 291g, but with a 1.5mm tread
thickness. Kirk says the production tires will be thicker-about
2mm-and the 308g listed here is a prediction." Width shown is 38.15
mm.
>From the VBQ test of the Hetre:
"Width (on 25 mm M
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Esteban wrote:
>
> Great news! I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was
> too thin. This is gonna be an awesome tire. It must be pretty darn
> good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project.
>
I read this elsewhere: that the tread was too t
I think Jan mentioned (in essence) that the market wouldn't bear
another 38mm tire right now given other offerings.
Ryan
On Feb 12, 8:09 pm, "rswat...@me.com" wrote:
> Did Grand Bois really drop the 38mm project? This is the first I've
> heard about it.
> I'm starting a rumor right now: Grand
Did Grand Bois really drop the 38mm project? This is the first I've
heard about it.
I'm starting a rumor right now: Grand Bois finally located the lost
Mistuboshi Trimline mold and we'll have a supple, folding Trimline by
summer!
Pass it on ;-)
Cheers,
Ryan
On Feb 12, 2010, at 20:55, Es
Great news! I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was
too thin. This is gonna be an awesome tire. It must be pretty darn
good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project.
Esteban
San Diego, Calif.
On Feb 12, 5:17 pm, Bruce wrote:
> Just an FYI for those here who are running
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