[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-25 Thread Ron MH
Brompton - best kid's bike ever! A bike that will literally grow with the child. A child needs to be a minimum size, but beyond that, the sky's the limit with a Brompton! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-25 Thread Ron MH
Brompton - best kid's bike ever! A bike that will literally grow with the child. A child needs to be a minimum size, but beyond that, the sky's the limit with a Brompton! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-24 Thread Peter Pesce
I love that trailer (at least I think I do -. never seen one in person). Hadn't thought about Riv doing one with a matching bag. Cool idea! Although the world needs a $1500 lugged steel trailer about as much as a $1500 lugged steel kids bike... On Friday, June 24, 2011 2:17:09 PM UTC-4, Philip W

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-24 Thread Philip Williamson
I'd like to see a Rivendell bike trailer with a Nigel Smythe bag like this Jack Taylor / Goëland in Bicycle Quarterly: http://www.bikequarterly.com/images/GBwTrailer.jpg And a production version of their ill-fated Mountain Fixie, optimized for drop bars. Ideally, with a limited run of Cunningham d

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)

2011-06-23 Thread cyclotourist
Yes, that's a really smart choice. There aren't many options in 26" drop bar bikes. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Justin August wrote: > Scott (the bloggist formerly known as LFoaB) bought his daughter a tiny > Long Haul Trucker. She rides more miles than most of us on it! > > -- > You receiv

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)

2011-06-23 Thread Justin August
Scott (the bloggist formerly known as LFoaB) bought his daughter a tiny Long Haul Trucker. She rides more miles than most of us on it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)

2011-06-23 Thread cyclotourist
I've found older Trek 220 models to be pretty good. Heavy as all get out though. Other than that, real good bikes! http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/found-perfect-kid-bike.html On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:33 PM, numbnuts wrote: > Specialized older steel stuff is a great choice. My son

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread William
I can still want it to happen, though. Even if it's not likely and even if I couldn't afford it. On Jun 23, 3:28 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:59 PM, William wrote: > > Taking it back to the Original Post:  What bike(s) would you like to > > see Riv implement in the future?

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:59 PM, William wrote: > Taking it back to the Original Post:  What bike(s) would you like to > see Riv implement in the future? > > The one I'm shocked nobody brought up (or maybe it's because we've all > said it so much that it needs no more saying) was the Riv Tandem. >

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread William
Taking it back to the Original Post: What bike(s) would you like to see Riv implement in the future? The one I'm shocked nobody brought up (or maybe it's because we've all said it so much that it needs no more saying) was the Riv Tandem. On Jun 20, 3:33 pm, Joe Bernard wrote: > While we're on t

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)

2011-06-23 Thread numbnuts
Specialized older steel stuff is a great choice. My son has a bunch of miles on a 24" wheeled Hardrock converted to a 1x7 with a chain guard and guide plus better brakes, brake levers, shifter, saddle, and other stuff. Norco also built a bunch of steel 24" wheeled bikes, along with others. Our bike

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)

2011-06-23 Thread Leslie
James, Occasionally, I can manage to do something right :) You're right, tho', she really is happy w/ it; has made a nice replacement for the last one she outgrew... David, I understand, and yes, her Trek does have a suspension fork; but, otherwise, it was okay... (not a Riv, but, su

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread Leslie
John, that's awesome. She'll treasure that, and pass it down to her kids. Wow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)

2011-06-23 Thread James Warren
Expression on child's face says you did well! -Original Message- >From: Leslie >Sent: Jun 23, 2011 11:47 AM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids) > >I just replied over in the other thread (didn't realize this on

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)

2011-06-23 Thread cyclotourist
I like the idea of a small 26er, but they're still hard to find w/out a sus fork. Specialized looks nice, thanks for the link! On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Leslie wrote: > I just replied over in the other thread (didn't realize this one had > spun off); > > Instead of a true kids' bike, I

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread Peter Pesce
That is so fantastic! Thanks for sharing it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jUr643FgcXwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)

2011-06-23 Thread James Warren
I don't have kids, so I'm only guessing, but how would something like this be? http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCProduct.jsp?spid=52916&scid=1005&scname=Kids -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, sen

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread John Speare
I gotta share this here. My buddy is a framebuilder and hooked me up with a sweet kid bike for my 8 yo daughter last Chrismass. The connection which really makes this Riv-related, is that the donor frame for the tube set came from a 89 RB-1. http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/search/label/maddie

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)

2011-06-23 Thread Leslie
I just replied over in the other thread (didn't realize this one had spun off); Instead of a true kids' bike, I went with the smallest ladies MTB bike for my 9-yr-old daughter; it dodged the 'kids-size' wheels, has regular 26" MTB wheels on it, is big enough that I can raise the seatpost and ride

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread Leslie
How funny that the conversation turned this way... Just a couple of months ago, I was shopping for a new bike for my daughter, and I'd sent a similar note to Grant, saying it'd be interesting to see his 'expanded sizing' ideas used for a kids bike. Then recently, Yehuda's had his 'grow bike' idea

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs (current options for kids)

2011-06-23 Thread tarik saleh
James, I was going to pipe in that specialized has had some really nice kids bike (mixed in with not so nice ones) over the last 10 years. I would recommend checking them out along with the Kona ones. Tarik > > I don't have kids, so I'm only guessing, but how would something like this be? > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread Peter Pesce
Seems to me Schwinn (and maybe Huffy, etc) made a pretty good line of kid's bikes back in the day. By LBS as a kid was a stand-alone Schwinn dealer. They later added other brands, or course, but my friends and I all got Stingrays (and Varsitys and LeTours) from that shop. The problem is that m

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread cyclotourist
Yes, that is a GREAT bike! No, we don't have anything like them here. All the majors have a few kid bikes, but they are tremendously heavy (my kid's 24" Trek MTB weights 30lbs, the same as my Surly 29er!) and not elegant in the least (clunky sus, cheap components). The only other option is a 24"

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread EricP
Folding would be nice. Although there was a Bromptom around RBWHQ at one time, I believe. (Wasn't it in a Reader?) The one I'd love straight gauge tubing, one bottle mount on the downtube, maybe hi-ten stays if cheaper, semi-horizontal dropouts. With slightly shorter chainstays than the Atlantis

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread Montclair BobbyB
For me, it would be a Riv folding bike, preferably with 26in wheel... This so I could take my Riv on the train (and stick it to the bureacrats at Amtrak). BB On Jun 23, 7:06 am, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Far south of $600 for a complete bike? Sounds too good to be true. > Really. And maybe isn'

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Hah add it to the questionnaire as part of prenatal planning... Things you can begin planning for NOW... - Will you and your wife be planning to send your son/daughter to college? - Will you and your wife be planning a custom Vanilla bicycle for your son/daughter's 5th birthday? On Jun 22,

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread Damian
I just ordered an Islabike Beinn 24" for my daughter. It was so refreshing to find a company that takes children's bikes seriously and doesn't just lazily try to shrink an adult's bike and imagine that that will do the job. Children's bodies have different relative dimensions and kids bikes so of

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Far south of $600 for a complete bike? Sounds too good to be true. Really. And maybe isn't what you meant? If it is what you meant, then I'd consider buying one on the theory that it would be at least as good as any $300 complete bike option I have. And I'd feel more comfortable with where it was m

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-23 Thread Brian Hanson
Interesting that this topic came up. I was talking about this very thing with Grant last week on a quick visit to HQ. He indicated that he has thought through this quite a bit, and he said he felt he would have to keep the price way down to avoid it being a bike that rich parents buy their kids b

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-22 Thread cyclotourist
I hear ya' on the lack of kid bike options. If you don't know about them, Islabike in the UK is a great resource. Unfortunately, they don't have a NA distributor, so shipping is prohibitive from the UK. So email 'em and encourage them to get one post haste (that's the way they talk there, be sur

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-22 Thread Peter Pesce
Good point. Better order it when your kid starts walking! In any case, if Riv could design a smart kids frame and get it made for $600 or so, seems like there are plenty of people on this list who'd spend that, knowing they could build it up with spare parts they already have (ok , maybe not t

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-22 Thread William
Is it just a coincidence that Sasha White thinks it will be good for 5 years, and the waiting list for a Vanilla is also 5 years? :) On Jun 22, 4:08 pm, Peter Pesce wrote: > Sasha White did a kid's bike - 26" wheels with a low saddle and really cool > look. He thought it was good for 5 years -

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-22 Thread Peter Pesce
Sasha White did a kid's bike - 26" wheels with a low saddle and really cool look. He thought it was good for 5 years - age 7 -12. Very Riv-ish IMHO. http://bikeportland.org/2011/02/26/a-bike-for-kids-from-sacha-white-of-vanilla-bicycles-48741 -- You received this message because you are subscrib

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-22 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 15:43 -0700, lukemcg wrote: > Personally, Riv offers enough current options for adults. Would love > to see Grant put his mind to qork on an age 9+ bike. It is really > awful to shop for kids bikes to find hydraulic, knobby tired mountain > bikes with too many gears. But how

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-22 Thread lukemcg
Personally, Riv offers enough current options for adults. Would love to see Grant put his mind to qork on an age 9+ bike. It is really awful to shop for kids bikes to find hydraulic, knobby tired mountain bikes with too many gears. Too much emphasisnon the wrong things. Luke -- You received th

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-21 Thread William
Pictures! On Jun 21, 1:41 pm, Michael_S wrote: > rather than canti's William you should spec. the Paul Racers in the > braze on version.They are the best stopping brakes I've ever ridden > short of hydro discs. > > I had a small custom builder do that Rando bike but that fits Jack > Browns with f

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-21 Thread Michael_S
rather than canti's William you should spec. the Paul Racers in the braze on version.They are the best stopping brakes I've ever ridden short of hydro discs. I had a small custom builder do that Rando bike but that fits Jack Browns with fenders. Standard diameter tubes, rear pump peg,custom front

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-21 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Speaking of the Roadeo, how does it perform strictly as a smooth pavement road bike -- or is it the wrong product for that niche? My stable has really more than I need, but it doesn't hurt to dream of even more excess, and one niche would be a top end road -- strictly road, tires no wider than 26 (

Re: [RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-21 Thread cyclotourist
You should check out the Velo Cult branded bikes being made by Nobilette. I think that's pretty close to what you're looking at. Check w/ Esteban who has proto-velo-culto. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:08 AM, William wrote: > There are two Rivs in my future that I can foresee. The standard one

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-21 Thread William
There are two Rivs in my future that I can foresee. The standard one is that I'll probably upgrade my 56 Hillborne to a 58 Atlantis. I want the MUSA, I want the looks (two tone paint, and those lovely chainstays) and I want just a teensy weensy bit more clearance to run 700x50s. The non-standard

[RBW] Re: Future Rivs

2011-06-21 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Joe: I agree... that would be awfully cool. FWIW I've built up more than one of these types of bikes (with older mountain frames) and have been really pleased with the results; some with rim brakes, others with drums... Here are a few: Stumpjumper - http://tinyurl.com/26mk55t Mongoose - http://