[RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-30 Thread N. Llama
I find fenders especially useful for gravel paths, where without them the gravel is being picked up by the tires and hitting my feet, legs and bike frame (You can hear a *ting* *ting* sound of the gravel hitting the frame). Also the one time I rode a gravel trail without fenders I got a small pi

[RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-30 Thread Anton Tutter
Well put! On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 12:01:58 PM UTC-4, John Phillips wrote: > > One needs fenders just to "ride" through this thread! > > John > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop r

[RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-30 Thread John Phillips
One needs fenders just to "ride" through this thread! John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-30 Thread Daniel D.
What's so hard about understanding the "when appropriate" is implicit.. There's little activity you can't envision an inconsiderate way to engage in it. You can be wearing tweed while riding a penny fairing, scoffing at the racer wannabes around yet be the most dangerous rude person on the MU

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-30 Thread Steve Palincsar
Let me paraphrase what he said: "Throw your leg over a racing bike and pretend you're racing, leading the pack up a mountain. What could possibly go wrong?" I merely pointed out one very common thing that in fact does go wrong when people do that. Why is that so hard to understand? On 0

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-29 Thread Evan E.
Congratulations, Eric. You made a good point and you expressed it well--and Steve found a way to criticize it. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an em

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
He said doing it, *where's the harm*; I said doing it on a MUP (as so many do) could indeed create harm. Obviously, you don't have to do it on a MUP; but we often see pathaletes doing it. On 07/29/2015 07:12 PM, Daniel D. wrote: where does he mention doing it on a crowded MUP or other similarl

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-29 Thread Daniel D.
where does he mention doing it on a crowded MUP or other similarly inappropriate route? On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 4:06:01 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > When you ride like you are "...*believing in your own mind, for just a > little while, that you’re leading the pack up the Alp d'Hu

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
When you ride like you are "...*believing in your own mind, for just a little while, that you’re leading the pack up the Alp d'Huez*"?There are many ways of having fun. Pretending you are in a road race is just one of them. On 07/29/2015 07:02 PM, Eric Norris wrote: Well said. Since when

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-29 Thread Eric Norris
Well said. Since when does having fun translate into “riding like that”? --Eric N campyonly...@me.com www.CampyOnly.com Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com @Campyonlyguy > On Jul 29, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Daniel D. wrote: > > put a jackhole on a BOBish bike they'd still ride like a jackhole.. > > On Wedne

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-29 Thread Daniel D.
put a jackhole on a BOBish bike they'd still ride like a jackhole.. On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 3:14:24 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > On 07/29/2015 05:53 PM, Eric Norris wrote: > > > > There are all kinds of fun, including the kind that involves dressing > > up in lycra, swinging

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 07/29/2015 05:53 PM, Eric Norris wrote: There are all kinds of fun, including the kind that involves dressing up in lycra, swinging your leg over a carbon wonderbike, hitting the bike path, and believing in your own mind, for just a little while, that you’re leading the pack up the Alp d

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-29 Thread Eric Norris
Because … it’s … FUN! Let’s all go back into the past for a second or two … Didn’t anybody else here ever make believe they were the world’s fastest cyclist when you were a kid? I know *I* did. My friends and I used to put number plates on our Sting-Rays and make motorcycle noises while pedali

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-29 Thread Daniel D.
I'm sure plenty of people would if they had a spare 7 million dollars burning a hole in their pocket. On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 4:45:59 AM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote: > > Yes but...does anyone commute in a car like that? How many people drive a > car like that on the road? How many people

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-29 Thread Daniel D.
I'm sure plenty of people would if they had a spare 16 million dollars lying around. On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 4:45:59 AM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote: > > Yes but...does anyone commute in a car like that? How many people drive a > car like that on the road? How many people "train" in a car

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-29 Thread Jan Heine
It does not appear the photo of the fastest two-wheeler (that can actually go around corners) uploaded, so here it is again. Fenders are part of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-29 Thread Jan Heine
Formula 1 cars don't have fenders because the rules don't allow them. Sports cars (like the ones that race at Le Mans) have fenders and are way faster, because they are more aerodynamic... Shielding the wheels from the airstream actually makes you faster, which is why racing motorbikes have fen

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-29 Thread Bruce
My wife and I spent a rainy May day biking around Mackinaw Island in Michigan, famous for having no cars and lots of horses. Our bikes were fenderless. Needless to say, we were covered, butt to brainpan, with . . . Everyone on the island rides bikes, good, stout, basketed work bikes, all with fe

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-29 Thread Doug Williams
Yes but...does anyone commute in a car like that? How many people drive a car like that on the road? How many people "train" in a car like that outside of a race? Everyone recognizes that a car like that is fragile and maintenance intensive; completely impractical for normal use. Given that, wh

[RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-28 Thread Lungimsam
Maybe there is a perception that the car engine's capabilities can be easily boosted to compensate for the car fender and lights weight more easily than a bike engine can be improved, making weight more of a critical penalty to the bike engine than to a car engine? -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-28 Thread Jan Heine
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/03/31/taking-off-fenders/ How many cyclists run fenders year-round on their cars? It still amazes me that nobody thinks a Porsche or a Ferrari is less sporty for having fenders and lights, but on a bike, it's still uncool in certain circles. ;-) Jan Heine Edi

[RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-28 Thread Lungimsam
Fenders are not 100% effective but very close! I like my fenders a lot. Stuff still blows out the sides of fenders (both on my Longboards and Honjos) and can still get on your feet and stays and fork blades. Not much, but you can see traces after riding through dirt/mud areas. But my frames loo

[RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-28 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
David, keep in mind that fenders keep more than water off your body and drive train. They also help keep dirt off your drive chain and out of your headset. The only time I really dislike my fenders is in a strong headwind. With my head down, struggling against the wind, they don't seen very

[RBW] Re: Fenders in Summer

2015-07-28 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Doug, I commute Folsom to Rancho Cordova on my Sam Hillborne. I've been commuting on the American River Bicycle trail since the early 90's. For many of those years from the Fish Hatchery down past Cal Expo. On my current morning commute (5:00 AM) I take the shortest most direct route and that