Re: [RBW] Re: Cork Grips in 2025: Learn Me

2025-08-06 Thread Pam Bikes
I tried to not glue them and they would slide off. Yes, cork may break off but I've glued it back or just left it off. Mine have been more durable than I thought. I ride daily and have only had to replace them once over 15 years (due to a piece broken off). I keep them shellacked. It needs

Re: [RBW] Re: Cork Grips in 2025: Learn Me

2025-08-06 Thread 'Thomas Lynn Skean' via RBW Owners Bunch
I’ve never deployed un-shellac-ed cork grips, so I can’t speak to the relative merits of coated vs uncoated. Just seeing/feeling real cork grips makes me think they *need* coating.I don’t know about the merits of varnish vs shellac.I’ve used shellac, two good coats applied an hour apart, with very

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips in 2025: Learn Me

2025-08-05 Thread Michael Baquerizo
they get dirty when you don't shellac. i have had good experience on nitto bars, using tubeless tape wrapped the long way where the grips will go. ie its not wrapped around the bars in small circles, rather a large strip that goes from top of where grip would go, around to the end, and back to

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips in 2025: Learn Me

2025-08-05 Thread 'aeroperf' via RBW Owners Bunch
J J is absolutely right. Whether or not they crumble or lose a chunk, the bike could fall over, or you might want to get the bars out of a 1-bolt stem someday. If this is her forever bike, do yourself a big favor and buy 3 grips. I used clear shellac. I highly suggest you use something like

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips in 2025: Learn Me

2025-08-05 Thread Ginz
Many times I've used the "Household" flavor of Hogar cement. Never came loose and when it came time to replace, I had to chip away the grip in small pieces. So, it held perfectly. You can buy Shellac in a spray can if that's more convenient. I've done that before as well as used canned and ev

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips in 2025: Learn Me

2025-08-05 Thread J J
Nick, the cork grips are great—comfortable and aesthetically lovely. I had a set on my Hunqapillar. Riv applied shellac during the initial build, and I added more later. Even so, over time the cork began to crumble, and eventually a big chunk broke off the right grip. This was in about two year

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips in 2025: Learn Me

2025-08-05 Thread 'aeroperf' via RBW Owners Bunch
Somewhere to start: https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/S_wfx3exgt8/m/dkYntljnBgAJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunc

Re: [RBW] Re: Cork Grips, Amber Shellac Or Clear

2024-06-04 Thread Michael Baquerizo
I forgot to add, and it looks like it exists on at least one of your grips, but getting twine on there extra tight will also help keep them on / together. glad you didn't have to cement them in. makes bar swaps and general adjustments that much easier. On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 3:43:10 PM UT

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips, Amber Shellac Or Clear

2024-05-29 Thread Josh C
I've only got amber shellac, so everything gets amber. I've done cork grips with it and they look great. One can of shellac has lasted me maybe 5 years or so and still going strong. I prefer the amber for hemp twine and cloth bar tape, so if you only want to buy a single can, I'd vote for amber.

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips, Amber Shellac Or Clear

2024-05-29 Thread Michael Baquerizo
rivendell has always suggest some sort of contact cement or glue to get the grips on there. the idea that i'd pay the premium price for cork only to have them be useless once off never sat well with me, so i've found that a mix of various tapes (cotton tape, tubeless rim tape) are perfect for m

[RBW] Re: Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-10 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'll jump on the Ron and Jon train and concur with the spar varnish. I used shellac on a pair a while ago and never liked the constantly sticky feel. I heard about the spar varnish tip here and tried that on another pair. VERY much improved the feel for me. I will admit the amber gives a nice lo

[RBW] Re: Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-10 Thread Julian Westerhout
I'm wondering how shellacked or varnished cork grips are to ride with over time, in the rain, etc. I have untreated cork grips on my commuter -- they've discolored with age, but are comfortable, absorb sweat in the summer, are still grippy in the rain. I like the coated look (and will also be

[RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread Richard Rios
Apologies didn't notice the date, but I will let the post stand just in case. I'd feel pretty bad if he pops back up and someone else is taken advantage of... I really do like the varnish idea though as I put shellac on my cork grips and they did become hard and slippery. Keeping the grips nice

[RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread drew
ah. well we are idiots. i do hope that he stays away. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread Ron Mc
don't know him, but this is a post I dragged up from last year On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 2:06:11 PM UTC-5, Richard Rios wrote: > > Hi all, > > sorry for the off topic post. But since I noticed Peter M has become > active on the list again I wanted to warn other members should he post > items

[RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread drew
looks like the intense draw of the rivendell group has brought him out of hiding. somewhat insulted and shocked that he thinks he can just show up again. im not as diplomatic as Richard. Peter, you owe me money, man... a decent person would also include a sincere apology. sorry to be so off t

Re: [RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread Richard Rios
Hi all, sorry for the off topic post. But since I noticed Peter M has become active on the list again I wanted to warn other members should he post items for sale in the future DO NOT buy from him as he will accept payment but not send you your items. Although other list members have had diff

Re: [RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread Richard Rios
Hi all, sorry for the off topic post. But since I noticed Peter M has become active on the list again I wanted to warn other members should he post items for sale in the future DO NOT buy from him as he will accept payment but not send you your items. Although other list members have had diff

[RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread Ron Mc
drew, I've never tried but it should work, and the U-40 should, as well. Shellac is hard, but Varnish or U-40 will be tough and flexible. On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 11:07:51 AM UTC-5, drew wrote: > > yes, beautiful and great idea. i don't use cork grips, but im wondering > how this would wor

Re: [RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread Ron Mc
btw, propane is an inexpensive substitute for Bloxygen, in case you have a gas grill or camp lantern. On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 11:07:03 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > I have some fancy stuff around, Sutherland Welles, but plain old Helmsman > available at hardware stores, Lowes, Home Depot, et

Re: [RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread Ron Mc
I have some fancy stuff around, Sutherland Welles, but plain old Helmsman available at hardware stores, Lowes, Home Depot, etc. is very good spar varnish. If you buy varnish, you also want to get some kind of inert gas like Bloxygen (you don't need this with shellac or the U-40 sealant). Pour

[RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread drew
yes, beautiful and great idea. i don't use cork grips, but im wondering how this would work on cloth tape. now i shellack them and while i like the look and the weather resistance, the hardness is not ideal. have you tried the spar varnish over cloth? -- You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread David Hays
Nice work Ron. I just shellacked my bar tape but for next time, any specific suggestions on which type of spar varnish? David > On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Ron Mc > wrote: > > brought up this old topic for two reasons - first to show off my results over > the win

[RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread Ron Mc
brought up this old topic for two reasons - first to show off my results over the winter with spar varnish on cork and shellac on twine wraps (it was brown twine, chosen to accent the spalted look of the varnished cork)

[RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2014-04-12 Thread Philip Williamson
Thanks. Your pictures of the varnished grips are the best looking cork grips I've seen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+uns

Re: [RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2014-04-12 Thread Peter Morgano
I have varnished cork grips before, it did come out nice but here in upstate NY it took about 10 days to get it all done. It was inside in the winter so I had the time, came out nice though. On Apr 12, 2014 4:19 PM, "Ron Mc" wrote: > Philip, > Spar varnish should work great because its flexible,

[RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2014-04-12 Thread Ron Mc
Philip, Spar varnish should work great because its flexible, but I think you would have to strip the shellac first. On Saturday, April 12, 2014 2:47:26 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote: > > I feel a trip to the hardware store coming on... That makes cork grips far > more appealing to me. > I

[RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2014-04-12 Thread Kellie Stapleton
so far I've left mine natural because I see the shellac flake (yuk). The spar varnish does look fantastic. On Saturday, April 12, 2014 6:07:06 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: > > I come from a bamboo fly rod background, and we used flexible coatings to > turn fibrous materials into tough composites - sp

[RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2014-04-12 Thread Ron Mc
Thanks, friend. I failed to mention how the varnish instantly highlights the rings and spalted texture of the cork - IMO, makes it gorgeous. At San Antonio's Siclovia (cyclovia to everyone else) her cork grips got

[RBW] Re: cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2014-04-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Brilliant! With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:07:06 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: > > I come from a bamboo fly rod background, and we used flexible coatings to > turn fibrous materials into tough composites - spar varnish, and maybe as > exotic as mastic varnish on silk thread wraps

[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?

2013-08-09 Thread Michael
> > I used the Permatex Form-a-gasket 1B stuff because it was right there in > the auto store. > I was thinking about hairspray though, since others have liked it and it meant not having to buy anything. Wow! You sure can buy a lot of stuff for bikes. Thanks for the tip about being careful whe

[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?

2013-08-09 Thread shawn
I used Gorilla glue. It worked great, but it is pretty much permanent. On Thursday, August 8, 2013 12:34:11 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote: > > Hi Y'all, > > Getting ready to put cork grips on my Albas and was wondering what > everyone uses and how long you have to wait after applying to ride on them

[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?

2013-08-09 Thread sameness
Pretty sure I used Shoe Goo. Waited overnight. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubs

[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael
> > I checked the Permatex website and looks like Formagasket 1 is hard > drying. Formagasket 2 is gooey drying. > Based on the Permatex descriptions and looking around online, 1A,1B, and 1C and their corresponding item numbers seem to mean tube sizes: 1A is like 1.5oz., 1B is 3oz, 1C is 11 o

[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?

2013-08-08 Thread Sean Cleary
I didn't want to buy a tube of $10 adhesive just to secure a $20ish grip so I checked what was on hand. Super strength double stick tape: too thick to get grip on bar. Hot glue: stuck momentary but then broke free. Weather strip adhesive: light layer sorta held so gooed on some more and wa-la! S

[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?

2013-08-08 Thread LF
On Thursday, August 8, 2013 12:34:11 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote: > > Hi Y'all, > > Getting ready to put cork grips on my Albas and was wondering what > everyone uses and how long you have to wait after applying to ride on them. > Thanks for the info. > Michael, I found great success with a HOT

[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?

2013-08-08 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
IIRC... the "A" sets hard.. experience has shown that it's easy to clean off the dried residue after removing grips. I think "B" sets soft. Never used "B" so not sure if the difference causes problems. I imagine either holds the grips on, but I do not know that. --Smitty On Thursday, August

[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael
> > I bought the Form a gasket 1B in the auto store today. > But don't know what the diff is between that and 1A. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an em

[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?

2013-08-08 Thread William
RoadieRyan Was it possible you were trying to install 22.2mm grips onto 23.8mm bars? Anyway, Michael Riv cork grips are 22.2mm and Albatross bars are 22.2mm. I agree with Ryan that you should do a dryfit first, but it should be easy. Mine slid on effortlessly when dry-fitting them. Then I

[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?

2013-08-08 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
I've been using Permatex "Form-A-Gasket 1A" for a couple years as per Riv's recommendation. Grips can be removed/re-used if you use this "glue". I've heard of other's using stronger glues and they end up destroying the grips if they try to take them off. The form-a-gasket bond has failed twice

[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?

2013-08-07 Thread RoadieRyan
Your Mileage my vary but my experience was I needed two sets of cork grips to get one set successfully mounted, and the instructions that talked about gluing them onto the bars... HA I had to *grease *the bars to get the $#)!@ things mounted. Granted once they were mounted and had a coat of

[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?

2013-08-07 Thread RoadieRyan
Your Mileage my vary but my experience was I need to sets of cork grips to get one set successfully mounted, and the instructions that talked about gluing them onto the bars... HA I had to grease the bars to get the $#)!@ things mounted. Granted once they were mounted and had a coat of shella

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips - Shellac or No?

2012-02-17 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I suggest riding them raw for awhile, until they start to look grubby. Then it's time to shellac (I prefer amber color). The grubbiness plus shellac gives a nice beausage effect. Works for cloth tape, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips - Shellac or No?

2012-02-16 Thread Smitty-A-Go-Go
Both bikes in my garage with real cork grips are clear shellacked. The longer lived one is about 18 months old and still looks fine after near daily use. I recently put "cork" tape on a different bike... no shellac... and it's starting to look grubby after only a few weeks of intermittent use.

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips

2010-12-13 Thread Leslie
For a while, I seriously contemplated getting a bunch of cork rings, as used in making flyrod handles, enlarging the center holes, feeding them onto my bars, gluing and clamping, so that the entire bar was covered as such.I still think it would be neat, if I could pull it off; but that would be

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips

2010-12-11 Thread Marty
You could also split each grip down the enter lengthwise, glue-'em back together over the bars, and do a cloth-wrap twine/shellack job to finish it off. I wrapped a set of cork grips myself and it feels pretty good. You would never see the split once it's done. Marty On Dec 10, 4:15 pm, Michael D

Re: [RBW] Re: Cork Grips

2010-12-10 Thread Michael DiBenedetto
Is there a photo of Kevin's crazy wrap?? Thanks Michael On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:18 PM, William wrote: > I did "Keven-Mowen-inspired-seven-layer-dip-of-grips" > > 1. Layer of cork tape > 2. Layer of cork tape > 3. Layer of cloth > 4. Layer of cloth > 5. Twine on the ends > 6. Shellac > 7. More

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips

2010-12-10 Thread William
I did "Keven-Mowen-inspired-seven-layer-dip-of-grips" 1. Layer of cork tape 2. Layer of cork tape 3. Layer of cloth 4. Layer of cloth 5. Twine on the ends 6. Shellac 7. More shellac By now i've done a couple more coats of shellac. On Dec 10, 12:59 pm, williwoods wrote: > yup I confirm it would

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips

2010-12-10 Thread williwoods
yup I confirm it would not make the bend, the Portuguese cork grips would be pretty cool to cut back into rings and re-glue. On Dec 10, 10:11 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:09 PM, George Schick wrote: > > How "flexible" are cork grips?  Reason I ask is because I'd like to > >

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips: affixing and removing

2010-06-19 Thread Angus
Yes. I use the brake levers and bar end shifters to keep them in place...no glue. Angus On Jun 17, 9:32 am, Jeffrey wrote: > A newbie question: Is it possible to use the cork grips on Albatross > bars without using glue (just to test them out)? > > If one uses the thick glue that RBW recommends

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips: affixing and removing

2010-06-17 Thread William
MY spun gun is merely PVC with a piezo BBQ ignitor, so it's portable. Oxy-Acetylene backpack might be grounds for upgrading the fuselage to stainless! I like it! On Jun 17, 11:03 am, Frankwurst wrote: > Agreed on both, but a shot of oxygen and acetelyne from a cutting > torch will really light u

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips: affixing and removing

2010-06-17 Thread Frankwurst
Agreed on both, but a shot of oxygen and acetelyne from a cutting torch will really light up the Spud Gun. On Jun 17, 12:38 pm, William wrote: > +1 AquaNet FTW! > > It's #1 for grips and for the Spud Gun. > > On Jun 17, 9:49 am, CycloFiend wrote: > > > > > on 6/17/10 8:49 AM, JoelMatthews at joe

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips: affixing and removing

2010-06-17 Thread William
+1 AquaNet FTW! It's #1 for grips and for the Spud Gun. On Jun 17, 9:49 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on 6/17/10 8:49 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: > > > Or a light spritz of hairspray. > > > You coupled people can help on this.  What brand works?  I bought some > > non-aesol hairspr

Re: [RBW] Re: Cork Grips: affixing and removing

2010-06-17 Thread CycloFiend
on 6/17/10 8:49 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: > Or a light spritz of hairspray. > > You coupled people can help on this. What brand works? I bought some > non-aesol hairspray and it did not help. Aqua-Net was what we used back in the shop days. Probably chopped a week off ou

[RBW] Re: Cork Grips: affixing and removing

2010-06-17 Thread JoelMatthews
Or a light spritz of hairspray. You coupled people can help on this. What brand works? I bought some non-aesol hairspray and it did not help. Answering the OP, while the standard cork grips Riv sells needed help when I put them on the Albatross, now that I moved up to the Portuguese grips, I fi