[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-27 Thread Bryan
Funny. I did one of Jim's lift-a-bike-to-the-left moves just this morning! I thought after such a dramatic display of accommodation, I'd get a little wave or something from the motorist. Nope. That's alright. Better than having someone seething behind me. -- You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 09:31 -0700, David T. wrote: > > "And I am *NEVER* going to get into an argument/shouting match with a > motorist at a traffic light." > > This sounds like an excellent policy, but seriously, how do you do it? > If someone honks at you and you are both sitting there, how do

[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-26 Thread David T.
"And I am *NEVER* going to get into an argument/shouting match with a motorist at a traffic light." This sounds like an excellent policy, but seriously, how do you do it? If someone honks at you and you are both sitting there, how do you manage not to turn around and say a few choice words? I d

[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Philip Williamson
If I were a Riv Chico in this scenario, I would be farther into the road so that lady would have to pass to the right of me to turn. If I were that guy in the scenario, I'd be right next to you, center or left of center. It seems weird to hang behind another cyclist. If I were the lady in the car

[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread William
Sorry I missed that detail. I've got a dedicated right turn lane on my commute home, so I deal with this particular maneuver daily. On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 1:54:21 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: > > > "From the original description it sounded like both the bikes were in > a right turn lane and n

Re: [RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Anne Paulson
In that case, I would move left if possible. If not-- what would that driver do if a car were ahead of her, waiting for the light? She would wait for the light. And that's what she should do if the cyclists can't safely allow her to pass on their right. And she should shut up. On Wed, Mar 21, 201

[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Liesl
"From the original description it sounded like both the bikes were in a right turn lane and neither one of them actually turned right.  I think that's a no-no. " To clarify: There were two west-bound lanes, and the right-most lane was/is not a dedicated turn lane, so the bikes were not doing a n

Re: [RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Morgano
Now that I think about why this hasnt happened to me, we dont have any right turn on red here in NYC so really not an issue. Of course when I am going straight and see the guy next to me is turning I will eithe cheat up past his bumper so I can clear the intersection before he turns or hang back an

Re: [RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Joe Broach
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > Since we can turn right on red lights (generally) here in CA, any time I'm > stuck at a stop light, I'll attempt to favor the left side of the lane > (assuming I'm in the rightmost lane). [...] This hasn't worked so well for me here in Port

[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread William
I'm similar to Jim Technically, isn't it flat-out illegal to occupy a dedicated right turn lane with your vehicle and then go straight? From the original description it sounded like both the bikes were in a right turn lane and neither one of them actually turned right. I think that's a no-no.

[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Mmmm... based on what you related, I'd have to fault the grumpy cyclist. Since we can turn right on red lights (generally) here in CA, any time I'm stuck at a stop light, I'll attempt to favor the left side of the lane (assuming I'm in the rightmost lane). It's just seemed to be the appropri

Re: [RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Lyle Bogart
Like Patrick, I will always pull as far to the left as I safely can and, if I hear a vehicle come up from behind, will make eye contact and motion they're free to make a right. When the light changes, I get through as quickly as possible and move rightward. Cheers! lyle On 21 March 2012 14:29, J

[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
To be clear, I would move forward and to the left. Moving right would be dangerous. Jay On Mar 21, 8:31 pm, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote: > The driver was asking nicely? > I'd move over if I reasonably could. > If she was obnoxious about it I wouldn't hear her. My ears are funny > that way. > > Jay > >

[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
The driver was asking nicely? I'd move over if I reasonably could. If she was obnoxious about it I wouldn't hear her. My ears are funny that way. Jay On Mar 21, 8:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > This is a pet peeve and concern of mine. First, the woman is an idiot, > as usual thinking that bikes d

[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Jay
The driver was asking nicely? I'd move over if I reasonably could. If he was obnoxious about it I wouldn't hear him. My ears are funny that way. Jay On Mar 21, 8:23 pm, Peter Morgano wrote: > Hmm, I often encount situations like this riding in NYC. The difference is > that though I know what the