The driver was asking nicely?
I'd move over if I reasonably could.
If he was obnoxious about it I wouldn't hear him. My ears are funny
that way.

Jay

On Mar 21, 8:23 pm, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmm, I often encount situations like this riding in NYC. The difference is
> that though I know what the laws are and the drivers dont I am still a dude
> on a 30lb bike and they are driving a 2 ton missle that can crush me like a
> bug.  I will usually err on the side of "courteousness" even though I will
> grumble under my breath about how I had the right of way or when some idiot
> honks at me for just having the audacity to rid on thier roads but again,
> they can kill us and we cant do much to them. I find this is especially
> true in NYC where the Village Voice has finally torn the lid off of a
> systematic plan by the NYPD to blame all bike related injuries and
> fatalities on bike riders and hardly ever if at all on the drivers of cars
> since the NYPD is not in favor of increased ridership advocated by the
> transportation commissioner Sadik-Khan.  So I would say, there is a time to
> stand your ground and a time to realize you are at the position of
> vulnerability and to just complain when you get home or on this list even.
> I know there are people who will see this as being too capitulating but as
> a grown man with kids at home I have to prioritize safety over pride.
>
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> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Liesl <li...@smm.org> wrote:
> > Hi Riv Chicas y Chicos,  Here's one to throw in the hopper! Yesterday
> > on my commute home, I was stopped close to the right curb at a light
> > for a busy cross-street (Hiawatha Ave at 35th st in Minneapolis for
> > you twin cities folk).  I heard a horn behind me; not a blaring one,
> > just a can-I-get-your-attention one.  I turned around to look, and a
> > bit behind me was a man on a bike who was square in the middle of the
> > right lane.  Behind him was a woman in the car from whence the beep
> > came.  She asked in a very reasonable tone if he could move over so
> > she could make a right turn.  He replied no; the light was about to
> > change.  Then there ensued a brief but escalating argument while the
> > light didn't turn green with the biker vocally refusing to move over
> > and the frustrated woman asking why he wouldn't just move over.  I
> > refrained from turning around and watching the whole thing much less
> > getting involved.  The light finally turned green.  I, out in front,
> > sprinted across Hiawatha with the argument still going.  The last I
> > heard was the man shouting over his shoulder in a sarcastic tone: "I'm
> > sorry I made you wait 40 seconds."
>
> > Curious to know what y'all think...would you have moved over?  stood
> > your ground?  In similar instances that I've been in, I know that I've
> > moved over and didn't think much about it.
>
> > The trees are leafing out here a full month early.
>
> > Liesl
>
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