[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-22 Thread Deacon Patrick
I have a bottle of chain saw bar and chain oil on the way. I presume I reuse an empty 2 or 4 oz bottle for application? Or what do you chainsaw guys do? Swig it and spit out a drop per ling from between your bearded teeth? Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you a

[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-16 Thread Garth
The best Lube to me is none of them ! For me, The best system would be no lube required, no cleaning required. Never sqeeks, never rusts, never wears out . *The forever chain* ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-16 Thread Patrick Moore
"I hear the lube you should use depends on where you live." This is absolutely true. I myself would never use paraffin (or White Lightning and such types, for that matter) in a rainy climate. Second received axiom: Wax-type lubes are nothing like waxing with paraffin. Amen. Mediate on this axiom

[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-15 Thread Jason Cloutier
Does anyone use molybdenum disulfide for lubrication? Jason Cloutier Pawtucket, RI On Monday, April 14, 2014 8:57:51 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > So the stuff I’ve been using lasts a few hours when it’s any sort of wet > out and good luck lubing when it’s all wet and grime sticking to gri

[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-15 Thread ascpgh
I used ProLink this winter because I found a bottle of it in a toolbox and figured I wouldn't get weepy about using it frequently and copiously over what became an epic slop season on my commuter. All other reports aside, my chain has lasted the whole season, dimensionally intact, using this lub

Re: [RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-15 Thread Garth
A Belt Drive bike surely sounds wonderful ! Less maintenance = Bliss ! My only possible bugaboo is the shifters , that you have to use specific one for each internal hub and they're usually grip shifts, which I have no desire to use . Alba bars with thumbies and bar end brake levers are

Re: [RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-15 Thread Matthew J
Or even better - belt drive SS. On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:51:01 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: > > Belt drive/Roholoff comes to mind as a possibility down the road, no > grease, no oiling. Expensive upfront costs but seems like an awesome setup > for worry free riding. > On Apr 14, 2014 8:27 PM,

Re: [RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-15 Thread Peter Morgano
Belt drive/Roholoff comes to mind as a possibility down the road, no grease, no oiling. Expensive upfront costs but seems like an awesome setup for worry free riding. On Apr 14, 2014 8:27 PM, "Deacon Patrick" wrote: > I'm intrigued by Dumonde's Original and may try it first. It's the same > conce

[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
I just called and asked for a sample of Dumonde's Original and they are sending me one, so I'll report back how it goes. I plan on using it on the new cassette/chain at the end of the month. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-14 Thread Michael
> > Chain-L No.5 is a petroleum based lube. It smells kind of like motor oil > to me. Its not overpowering. You can just smell it while standing near the > bike while in the garage. Not while riding, of course. > > Chanel No.5, on the other hand can probably be scent-sampled at any local > d

Re: [RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-14 Thread Jim Bronson
I'm pretty intrigued by chain lube with a distinctive smell as it's calling card. I generally smell all the motor oils that I put in the household cars and I can tell various motor oils by their smell. I think Mobil 1 smells the best of all oils I have used, with Mobil Super 5000 a close 2nd. No

[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-14 Thread Brian Campbell
For winter/wet weather riding, I mix automatic transmission fluid and 10w30 in an old Tupperware container and immerse the chain for a minute or so and agitate. I then hang the chain over the container and let it drain completely back into the container and wipe off any excess. Sure it gets dir

[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
I'm intrigued by Dumonde's Original and may try it first. It's the same concept as wax, but with a self-lubricating polymer as its base. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001EO19MY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=LU7NJJJ1Q6U&coliid=I18KBXXNXGTA2F&psc=1 With abandon, Patrick -- You receive

[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
I don't/do follow you here, Garth because there are too few/many mixed messages. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 14, 2014 5:54:16 PM UTC-6, Garth wrote: > > > I have some Chain-L to try, but man, the smell to me is anything but foul. > I'm not putting it on in my attached garage !

[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-14 Thread Garth
I have some Chain-L to try, but man, the smell to me is anything but foul. I'm not putting it on in my attached garage ! With a lingering odor like that, and it's mystery ingredients too, I'm sure it's no more/less "toxic" than others, as "toxic" is relative to the I of the beholder anyways !

[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
I went back and looked at the various lubes I've tried and they are all variations on the "dry wax." So that path has been tried. The Chain-L looks well worth trying. So I will try the wet lube next and see how it goes. Given that Boeshield and White Lightening and the rest last me at most 10 h

[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-14 Thread Michael
> > Chain-L is the longest lasting, and coolest smelling lube I have ever used. > You can smell it when you enter the garage for the next week after installing it on the chain. Smells like engine oil. I think I could could go for 1k at least without a relube if I remember right from my use. Ra

Re: [RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-14 Thread Peter Morgano
I use clean ride, and while I don't like working with something so toxic it is the lowest maintenance lube I have found in the years of dirt riding. On Apr 14, 2014 6:09 PM, "Garth" wrote: > > Just thinkin' . . . . . > > I've used two wax based lubes, because cleaning chains is strongly not my

[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-14 Thread Garth
Just thinkin' . . . . . I've used two wax based lubes, because cleaning chains is strongly not my preference :) Squirt, which is not widely available, is by far the longest lasting. It has no petroleum in it, it's water based and White . It does alight in the rain as long as it's been appl

Re: [RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-14 Thread Patrick Moore
That first "beeswax" ought to be "paraffin" of course. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Yes, beeswax does penetrate (it's thinner than bees wax when liquid) but > apparently it doesn't keep water out or at any rate, doesn't keep the chain > lubed when water gets in. >

Re: [RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-14 Thread Patrick Moore
I can't answer that. I just know that even a little wet makes the chain noisy; I also know that the general scuttlebutt (waxing has been around for decades) is that paraffin is not a good lube for wet conditions. I haven't heard of anyone recommend bees wax except Grant, and I haven't heard anyone,

[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
I should add, that the challenge I have in the riding I do is it's both "wet" and "dry" almost at the same time on many, many days. Between 20 minute downpours than mudify everything to creek crossings, things rapidly go from wet to dry to wet to dry. Dry dust and grit sticks to the "wet" lubes

[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

2014-04-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
I'm thick-headed with wool for brains, so please help me understand why wax works in dry dusty conditions by not wet. That makes no sense to me. Adding vasaline to beeswax might make sense. Would adding an oil of some kind make equal sense? Patrick, doesn't beeswax penetrate the chain when you