Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage

2022-03-29 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
I was SO hoping Pam would chime in here. I love that post about her Betty Foy. What are we at for miles now, Pam? I bet you’re close to 65,000. I should get an odometer on my bike - I know how many miles I ride per month and year (Apple Watch) but I don’t track the miles according to which bicy

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage

2022-03-28 Thread Richard Rose
Everything about this is impressive. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 28, 2022, at 9:40 PM, Pam Bikes wrote: > > https://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/ > don't cringe when you see all the paint chipped from when it was locked on a > sign post or bad rack. > >> On Monday, March

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage

2022-03-28 Thread Pam Bikes
https://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/ don't cringe when you see all the paint chipped from when it was locked on a sign post or bad rack. On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 5:13:06 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > BTW, "sausage" is pronounced sew-sij. Wait, no, that's not right. It's

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage

2022-03-28 Thread Patrick Moore
BTW, "sausage" is pronounced sew-sij. Wait, no, that's not right. It's pronounced "saw- SAHHHJ." As we all know. Patrick Moore, never completely serious in ABQ, NM. On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 11:33 AM Richard Rose wrote: > All I can hear is Gary Busey eating sausage. > -- You received this messa

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage

2022-03-28 Thread Richard Rose
All I can hear is Gary Busey eating sausage. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 28, 2022, at 8:23 AM, Johnny Alien wrote: > > I like the Grant pronunciation because it sounds like what it is. Beauty > from usage. > >> On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 8:20:13 AM UTC-4 peech1...@yahoo.com wrote: >> Gran

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage

2022-03-28 Thread Patrick Moore
I like the Frenchy pron because it sounds like sausage. On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 6:23 AM Johnny Alien wrote: > I like the Grant pronunciation because it sounds like what it is. Beauty > from useage. > > On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 8:20:13 AM UTC-4 peech1...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Grant's preferre

[RBW] Re: Beausage

2022-03-28 Thread Johnny Alien
I like the Grant pronunciation because it sounds like what it is. Beauty from usage. On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 8:20:13 AM UTC-4 peech1...@yahoo.com wrote: > Grant's preferred pronunciation rhymes with usage. I prefer the French > pronunciation. The value in the idea of beausage is of course

[RBW] Re: Beausage

2022-03-28 Thread Johnny Alien
I like the Grant pronunciation because it sounds like what it is. Beauty from useage. On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 8:20:13 AM UTC-4 peech1...@yahoo.com wrote: > Grant's preferred pronunciation rhymes with usage. I prefer the French > pronunciation. The value in the idea of beausage is of cours

[RBW] Re: Beausage

2022-03-28 Thread 'peech1...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch
Grant's preferred pronunciation rhymes with usage. I prefer the French pronunciation. The value in the idea of beausage is of course, embracing wear on the bike by riding the bike. Tim Petersen On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 4:55:37 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote: > I think it was Grant who made

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-05 Thread Edwin W
I always found the stock Wald baskets wiggly. But it is a big upgrade to add a nitto rack underneath! I think the best part is it lowers the basket and shortens the stays. Less wiggle, for sure. Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bu

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-05 Thread cyclotourist
I was just out swapping handlebars (thanks Hugh!) and had to pull a Wald basket to do it. I noticed that the stays on this basket are definitely different than the ones on the bike that collapsed on me. Those stays had a much larger (~four inch) flat section with multiple hub drillings on the end o

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-05 Thread Patrick Moore
I can vouch for the truth that the Wald Newsboy doesn't sway; it's very secure. As to how the bike handles with such a basket on it, with load, that depends on the bike. I once put one on a Schwinn World Tour and loaded it with 2 cinderblocks, which fit very well in respect of volume. I actually ma

[RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-05 Thread Will
Thanks for the question. Take a good look at this picture. It was posted earlier in the thread. https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15464068173 Notice where the weight is. It is in front of the front axle. This unweights the frame, overweights the struts, and seriously compromises stee

[RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-05 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Indeed. That's an amazing build. Most days I'm completely happy with my QB and Hilsen, plus the singlespeeded MB1. Looking at that build (and bike color) just had me enthralled. Started envisioning that bike with Quickbeam dropouts, which probably means I'd need two of them, because it's th

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-05 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
The Nitto rated capacity values are _e-x-t-r-e-m-e-l-y_ conservative. On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 7:33:39 PM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote: > > Help me to understand. The rated capacity of a Nitto 32F front rack is > 4.4 lbs. I have no idea what the weight capacity of a stock Wald basket > is. Ar

[RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-05 Thread ian m
Will, how is sway from a heavy loaded front basket a function of bicycle geometry? Seems to me it's more a function of the way the basket attaches to the bicycle, which are two points near the stem and two point at the front axle, which doesn't make for a particularly laterally stiff design. S

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-04 Thread cyclotourist
Matt, in my experience, the Wald basket stays aren't as strong as the Nitto rack. I think you get what you pay for. Plus their handlebar mounting clamps are kinda' kludgy (says the guy using zip ties to hold the basket on). FYI, Boulder has the 32F at a much better everyday price: http://boulderbi

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-04 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Jim, What you say makes sense. What boggles my mind, however, is that Nitto rates both racks the same. I don't have a problem using the Irish Straps. They look nice and add a touch of class. I do have a problem though spending $140 for the rack and an additional $16 for the straps when the

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-04 Thread James Warren
Just put something like a John's Irish strap there, and no worries. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 4, 2015, at 9:06 AM, cyclotourist wrote: > I don't make a habit of overloading like that, but it does happen... > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:49 AM, James Warren wrote: > Be careful though. There has

[RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-04 Thread Will
Not my experience. We routinely carried between 65-70 newspapers in the Wald front delivery baskets. And loaded the back baskets on Sundays when the papers were twice as large and heavy. Never a problem. Swaying is a function of bicycle geometry, wheel strength (spokes+dish), and pneumatic cush

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-04 Thread cyclotourist
I don't make a habit of overloading like that, but it does happen... On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:49 AM, James Warren wrote: > Be careful though. There has been at least one caseof the mini-front rack > failing when overloaded and sending the fast-moving rider over the bars and > to injury as the ra

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-04 Thread James Warren
Be careful though. There has been at least one caseof the mini-front rack failing when overloaded and sending the fast-moving rider over the bars and to injury as the rack has hit the front wheel. This is the mini-front rack that's for bikes without sidepull brakes where the support post goes i

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-04 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Wow! I wonder why Nitto chooses to be so ultra conservative? Matt On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 8:28:44 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > This much: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15464068173 > :-) > When carrying that much in the Wald, the stays buckled when I hit a bump, > ha

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-03 Thread Justin August
It's obvious that the Nitto ratings are conservative to say the least. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@goog

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-03 Thread cyclotourist
This much: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15464068173 :-) When carrying that much in the Wald, the stays buckled when I hit a bump, had to push the rest of the way home. The 32F hasn't let me down yet! On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bun

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-03 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
David, Help me to understand. The rated capacity of a Nitto 32F front rack is 4.4 lbs. I have no idea what the weight capacity of a stock Wald basket is. Are you saying roughly 5 lbs will crumple the Wald basket stays? Matt On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 10:25:15 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-03 Thread ian m
Loaded up with a couple grocery bags those Wald baskets will sway back and forth in front of you like a drunk tourist on a fishing boat. Ziptied to a solid and stable rack there is zero movement and handling feels good. That's my experience anyway On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 8:16:26 AM UTC-7, W

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-03 Thread cyclotourist
Maybe that's a heavier built version then the smaller one. The rack reinforcement and handlebar attachments look really solid, but the long stays are the weak point. They have crumpled on me, folding into the spokes when I overloaded a basket. Nitto 32F with a basket zipped onto it has never done t

[RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-03 Thread Will
You could simply mount the Wald as it is manufactured. I had these on my newspaper bikes back in the day. They are bullet-proof, heavy haulers. I cannot imagine that a basket ziptied to a rack would be more stable or durable than this original Wald set-up. Wald is working-class cred. http://ww

[RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-03-31 Thread dougP
That Hunq has some pretty aggressive looking tires too that help with the badass image. dougP On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 12:10:36 PM UTC-7, Mathew Greiner wrote: > > No, I can't trade my awesome Pass & Stow rack for a smaller front rack and > a rear rack because a) I use a trail a bike to

[RBW] Re: Beausage - Patagonia

2013-11-30 Thread Tony Lockhart
I really liked the video and identified with a lot of the people portrayed in the film. My daughter is only a half a year old now, but I can imagine passing down one of bikes to her when she's tall/old enough. The idea of being mindful of your footprint is something I think is relevant in our t

[RBW] Re: Beausage - Patagonia

2013-11-29 Thread ascpgh
I did business with them while running the shop that also sold Bridgestone. The Ventura office of Patagonia was one of my best trade show (When ORCA was still at Anaheim) side trip. Working with those folks and seeing how closely we fit their ethos in the Arkansas Ozarks was cool. Andy Cheatham

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread rob markwardt
il 07, 2011 4:41 PM > To: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.cpesom; Eric Norris > Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction > > Quoting Eric Norris : > > > I often hear comments about how clean my bikes are, usually given in   > &g

RE: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Kelly Sleeper
PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.cpesom; Eric Norris Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction Quoting Eric Norris : > I often hear comments about how clean my bikes are, usually given in > a tone that suggests that I need serious therapy t

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Mojo
That is the Legolas group, and only the newest two pictures, and two bags, are my bike. On Apr 7, 6:42 pm, "Bill M." wrote: > Five pictures of the Legolas, five different saddle bags! Forget about > cleaning, when do you find time to organize your bag collection?  :) > > On Apr 7, 2:13 pm, Mojo

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Bill M.
Five pictures of the Legolas, five different saddle bags! Forget about cleaning, when do you find time to organize your bag collection? :) On Apr 7, 2:13 pm, Mojo wrote: > > I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom > > floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more l

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread William
I stopped paying attention at 'metaphysically' and slipped into a coma at 'pulchritudinem'. Next time talk into my good ear. On Apr 7, 3:56 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > It is metaphysically (literally) impossible for something to be kludgy > in the sense of badly designed and to be at the same tim

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I know, I was just kidding -- I can clean a bike in about five minutes, with soap and hose (chain and lubing take a bit longer). I too clean mine after being caught in a shower, but that is rather rare out here. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Mojo wrote: > >> I am surprised by the many photos I

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
It is metaphysically (literally) impossible for something to be kludgy in the sense of badly designed and to be at the same time and in the same respect beautiful, since beauty implies order and harmony among the parts -- ie, that is part of what it is to be beautiful, at least in composite things.

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread William
One morning I got to Riv HQ ten minutes before they openned. There was Mark, Vaughn, Mile and Robert, sharing the two workstands moved out to the tarmac and one huge bucket and going at their filthy 'crossers with brushes. It was very zen, like that opening to Sunday in Hell. They were doing the

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread palincss
Quoting Eric Norris : I often hear comments about how clean my bikes are, usually given in a tone that suggests that I need serious therapy to deal with whatever issues I have ... That being said, I agree with Mojo that it's not really that hard to keep a bike clean. I wash my bikes wi

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Eric Norris
I often hear comments about how clean my bikes are, usually given in a tone that suggests that I need serious therapy to deal with whatever issues I have ... That being said, I agree with Mojo that it's not really that hard to keep a bike clean. I wash my bikes with hot soapy water if they get

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread William
Love the copper Legolas! Next color choice I have on a bike, I must consider copper. On Apr 7, 2:13 pm, Mojo wrote: > > I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom > > floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners > > spend as much time cleaning them

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Mojo
> I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom > floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners > spend as much time cleaning them as riding them. Now I do live in a > dry climate... Quite the assumption Patrick. Cleaning a bike takes about as much time

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Lynne Fitz
What the Bleriot has been known to look like: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/2134762170/ After THAT ride, it took a fair amount of fortitude to clean it up... On Apr 6, 3:31 pm, Frank Quan wrote: > After reading Grant's article, I feel better about myself.  I was > feeling little guilty

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread doug peterson
My Atlantis only gets cleaned a few times a year, usually after a tour as part of the re-assembly process. It looks so nice all shiny'n'spiffy, before I start hanging racks'n'packs back on, I keep telling myself "gotta take a good picture for cyclofiend's Atlantis site". Been working on that for

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread William
What if something is both beautiful and kludgy? Is it beauludgy? Barf On Apr 7, 10:34 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on 4/7/11 8:53 AM, PATRICK MOORE at bertin...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Just for the record: my interest in the text and my reason for > > referring to it was not the writing style but the

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/7/11 8:53 AM, PATRICK MOORE at bertin...@gmail.com wrote: > Just for the record: my interest in the text and my reason for > referring to it was not the writing style but the message: don't > obsess over the looks of your bikes, they are meant for riding, though > riding has no quarrel with l

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Rick
I confess to admiring some of the purty show bikes from NAHBS, regularly visit the current classics section on cyclofiend's site, and admire the looks of my Rivs quite a bit, but I just don't have it in me to keep my bikes presentation-quality. Last time I tried to get the Atlantis seriously clean

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Scott G.
On Apr 7, 11:53 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Now I do live in a > dry climate, but mine get washed about 3 times a year. (I am very > careful about keeping the drivetrain cleaned and lubed.) I am too busy > fixing flats to clean them more often than that. I live in a wetter climate and ride GB tir

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Just for the record: my interest in the text and my reason for referring to it was not the writing style but the message: don't obsess over the looks of your bikes, they are meant for riding, though riding has no quarrel with looks. I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroo

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Beth H
On Apr 7, 4:43 am, scott wrote: > "My bikes always have, at a minimum, a layer of dust on > them.   Uh-oh. Are they being ridden enough? ..::grin::.. Most of my beausage happens when I grow attached to a particular component or accessory on my bike and I take measures to repair it so it will las

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread scott
"My bikes always have, at a minimum, a layer of dust on them. Two of my three bikes (not my Rivendell) have mismatched tires or wheels. And I don't even want to mention the torn bar tape. " All bikes should look this way! A lubed chain keeps a bike happy, the rest is vanity. Oops, did I say

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-06 Thread Frank Quan
After reading Grant's article, I feel better about myself. I was feeling little guilty after visiting website after website with pictures of clean shiny bikes with Carradice bags, Nitto racks, Honjo fenders, etc. My bikes always have, at a minimum, a layer of dust on them. Two of my three bikes

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-06 Thread rw1911
I wouldn't read too much in to it. Regardless of the circumstances at the time of the post, the message (or my interpretation is) that while perhaps not the sexiest and definitely not carbon, we make some well thought out and good sh*t for those who care about these things. (most if not all on this

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-06 Thread charlie
Well G you seem to be one cool dude regardless so my hat goes off to you..when are the Simple Ones going to show on the website ? On Apr 6, 12:49 pm, grant wrote: > Well, the only thing that should've thrown anybody was the last line > or two...the rest...easy. Still, it was written at 3a

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-06 Thread Mike S
Beautility is where it's at. Beaunction is a pretty kludgy term. On Apr 6, 10:46 pm, Philip Williamson wrote: > I thought it was coherent and flowy - should I be worried? It's true, > though, that I have been trying to add commas, clauses and > parenthetical comments back into my own writing sinc

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-06 Thread Philip Williamson
I thought it was coherent and flowy - should I be worried? It's true, though, that I have been trying to add commas, clauses and parenthetical comments back into my own writing since I read it, so maybe I should. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Apr 6, 12:26 pm, Beth H wrote: >

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-06 Thread grant
Well, the only thing that should've thrown anybody was the last line or two...the rest...easy. Still, it was written at 3am. The "take-home" content is "Normal Jean." G On Apr 6, 12:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > An unusually incoherent post from Grant, > here:http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_po

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Ah, Beth, not "shocking" -- we all have our incoherent moments. There is a message and it (IME) is worth proclaiming. Best of luck to all of you who suffer from insomnia: I suffered from it horribly in my 20s (think: 3 weeks of 2 hours until you were so wired you could not function or relax) and s

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-06 Thread Beth H
I'd say shockingly incoherent, even with sleep deprivation. I had to read it twice to be clear on what was being conveyed. Wow. ..::shakes head::.. At least I know I'm not the only sleeping porrly these days. --Beth On Apr 6, 12:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > An unusually incoherent post from Gr

[RBW] Re: Beausage...bow? Bue?

2009-02-21 Thread Eric Norris
I vote for BOW-SAHZE. Any company that makes a bike named for a French forest should promote the French pronunciation. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Feb 21, 2009, at 12:16 PM, colin p. cummings wrote: > > Perhaps I'm nitpicking or my mind is too loosely

[RBW] Re: Beausage...bow? Bue?

2009-02-21 Thread james black
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:16 PM, colin p. cummings wrote: > > Perhaps I'm nitpicking or my mind is too loosely fettered, but mulling > over this term "beausage", I'm troubled by the fact that I read > (somewhere, I don't remember, maybe here?) it is pronounced BYOO- > SIDGE, as in "beautiful" an

[RBW] Re: Beausage...bow? Bue?

2009-02-21 Thread Paul Cooley
For what it's worth, I've always pronounced it bow-sahzhe, not that I recall ever saying it out loud. Paul B. Cooley Santa Fe, NM http://carfreefamily.blogspot.com On Feb 21, 2009, at 1:16 PM, colin p. cummings wrote: Perhaps I'm nitpicking or my mind is too loosely fettered, but mulling ove