I'm also at 83.5 / 84 PBH. right on the cusp of 56 & 58 when Toyo was
building them in 2003. I went with the 58 & have been happily riding it
since then. Started out with a 100 mm stem & Nitto Dream bars. A few
years back, I went to swept back bars & a dirt drop stem for a more upright
posit
Nah, your point was understood. This explains why when I ride my friend's
58 Toyo (with the equivalent of Billie bars), it's doable, but just to big
of a frame size to try to shoehorn into my riding style.
Now this discussion has me pondering a search for a 56 Toyo (last thing I
need bc I haven'
Ah dangit, I think I said that backwards.
Shorter version: the original Atlantis was designed with drop/moustaches
bars in mind, the size you need depends a lot on which types of bars you
run. Pullbacks like Bosco or Billie? Go big!
On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:46:45 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard
Well it's all quite subjective and there's so many variables involved,
which is why Grant doesn't like to post geometry charts. According to your
PBH and saddle height numbers you're kinda on the cusp of 53 and 56cm on
that early Atlantis page, and you have to consider that this was still deep
This is good to see but slightly unfortunate. There are a couple beautiful
61 cm Atlantis's for sale but as a 92PBHer, looks like I will indeed need a
64
On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 3:02:33 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ah, Joe the chart you referenced makes much more sense than the on
OP what’s your location? If close to Sacramento you’re welcome to ride my 53.
> On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:46, 'Gerard Gunhouse' via RBW Owners Bunch
> wrote:
>
> Not trying add complexity to the topic. I have a 83 PBH and ride a 54.5
> (Toyo) Atlantis I purchased new from Grant back in the 2002
Not trying add complexity to the topic. I have a 83 PBH and ride a 54.5
(Toyo) Atlantis I purchased new from Grant back in the 2002/3 timeframe. I
am not sure how long Rivendell actually made that frame size but for me it
feels like a custom
Cheers
Gunner
On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 2:02:1
I agree, I have well over a fist full of seatpost on my 53 with my 79 PBH.
> On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:02, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Here's an original Toyo sizing chart, this will work with Waterford models,
> too. I'm shorter and would fit a 53, I think you need a 56 in these frames.
>
>> On Mon
Thanks, appreciate it
On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:59:09 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:
> 79pbh, 31 inseam, and I own a 2004 Atlantis in size 53cm.
>
> On Aug 15, 2022, at 09:57, Brian Turner wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm right there with you; 83.5 / 84 PBH, and my saddle height is around
> 72-73cm. From wh
Thanks, appreciate it
On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:57:06 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm right there with you; 83.5 / 84 PBH, and my saddle height is around
> 72-73cm. From what I've read and seen, you'd probably be a solid 53 on a
> Toyo-built Atlantis. I've ridden a Toyo 58, and w
79pbh, 31 inseam, and I own a 2004 Atlantis in size 53cm.
> On Aug 15, 2022, at 09:57, Brian Turner wrote:
>
>
> I'm right there with you; 83.5 / 84 PBH, and my saddle height is around
> 72-73cm. From what I've read and seen, you'd probably be a solid 53 on a
> Toyo-built Atlantis. I've rid
I'm right there with you; 83.5 / 84 PBH, and my saddle height is around
72-73cm. From what I've read and seen, you'd probably be a solid 53 on a
Toyo-built Atlantis. I've ridden a Toyo 58, and while I found it
comfortable to ride, it was really only because it had skinny tires and
swept-back ba
The chart that Jim posted is the one I have that shows a 54.5 cm. My other
chart just has wider ranges for the 53 & 56. Must have been a reason for
the 54.5 to be added.
dougP
On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:06:55 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> This is what I suspected as I saw an Atlantis
This is what I suspected as I saw an Atlantis with a declared size of 55 cm
so it's probably a 54.5 cm variety. Thanks Mike & Jim, just so's ya know I
always check you're site for answers first. A great site indeed.
~Hugh
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Cyclofiend Jim
wrote:
> Historical re
Historical references here:
http://cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/atlantis/atl_flyer2-05.jpg
via the Atlantis page - http://cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/atlantis/
- Jim
On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:15:41 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
>
> Hugh only made a 54.5 and 56. here is the geo chart
>
Hugh only made a 54.5 and 56. here is the geo chart
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0
mike
On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 8:59:27 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Hey Rivendell folk, does anyone know when Riv made a 55 cm Atlantis?
Wow. I read that article about the guy who did fully loaded touring
on his Quickbeam--in the middle of the winter! Amazing.
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On Apr 4, 11:13 am, CycloFiend wrote:
> > I knew you must have that chart on your site somewhere, but I looked
> > everywhere, and I couldn't find it. Even knowing the link, I still
> > can't find it when I start from your home page.
>
> It's linked off of the Cyclofiend:RBW page -
>
> http://www
on 4/4/10 7:23 AM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Apr 3, 11:55 pm, CycloFiend wrote:
>> This has the geometry up to 68:http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html
>>
>
> I knew you must have that chart on your site somewhere, but I looked
> everywhere, and I couldn't find it.
On Apr 3, 11:55 pm, CycloFiend wrote:
> This has the geometry up to 68:http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html
>
I knew you must have that chart on your site somewhere, but I looked
everywhere, and I couldn't find it. Even knowing the link, I still
can't find it when I start from your home p
on 4/3/10 4:52 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Apr 3, 11:11 am, MichaelH wrote:
>> I have been idly thinking about looking for a used Atlantis frame to
>> build up. When I look at the Riv web site I know longer have a link
>> to the pdf geometry chart, and the Atlantis page
On Apr 3, 7:12 pm, newenglandbike wrote:
> That's not really true and here's why:
>
> Custom Waterfords are a great deal, but the closest thing to an
> Atlantis that Waterford offers as a base to customize is the
> 'Adventure Cycle', and it costs $1800 for the frame, and $350 for
> the fork.
How is that Waterford working out for you? Have you done any loaded
touring on it?
I literally just picked it up today. I took it for a short ride prior to
heading out to play at church this pm. So far I'm blown awayspeechless.
I thought about going that route. The pipes used for the Adve
That is precisely why I jumped on the Roadeo, if the geometry and
design comes close to your wishes, the RIvendells coming out of
Waterford are relatively a deal. Yes you can get a better price from
some of the smaller builders, but if you can find the bike you are
looking for through Riv, then I
That's not really true and here's why:
Custom Waterfords are a great deal, but the closest thing to an
Atlantis that Waterford offers as a base to customize is the
'Adventure Cycle',and it costs $1800 for the frame, and $350 for
the fork.That doesn't include mid-stay rack braze-ons and mid
On Apr 3, 6:52 pm, happyriding wrote:
> I have the .pdf
> file though. I'll send it to you.
>
Or you can see most of the numbers on Peter White's website:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/atlantis.asp
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On Apr 3, 3:57 pm, "John Stoesser" wrote:
> About 2-4 weeks ago there was a 68cm Atlantis offered on ebay. The owner
> wanted $2600 as a buy-it-now. I called RBW and spoke to them about a 68cm
> about 2 years ago. They had one in stock. I didn't pull the trigger. Kept
> lurking around here hoping
On Apr 3, 11:11 am, MichaelH wrote:
> I have been idly thinking about looking for a used Atlantis frame to
> build up. When I look at the Riv web site I know longer have a link
> to the pdf geometry chart, and the Atlantis page only lists sizes up
> to 61. Didn't they once make a 64, and if so,
The 64cm Atlantis had a 60cm TT. They stopped having them made
sometime last year if I remember correctly.
--mike
On Apr 3, 10:11 am, MichaelH wrote:
> I have been idly thinking about looking for a used Atlantis frame to
> build up. When I look at the Riv web site I know longer have a link
> t
I have an Atlantis brochure from about 2003 and it lists a 64cm frame,
but I don't know when they stopped offering them. A few months ago I
talked to guy on a 68cm Atlantis. That was a huge bike! Used frames
come up from time to time, that's how I got mine. It's a 56cm,
probably a more common size
Wow. Thanks Jim. I'm not ready financially yet but when I am I'll
contact you to see if the offer stands. Thanks again!
On Jan 6, 9:33 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
wrote:
> Clif: Seriously, if you really want one, I can make it happen for you.
>
> On Jan 6, 9:29 am, Elfardo wrote:
>
> > Noo
Clif: Seriously, if you really want one, I can make it happen for you.
On Jan 6, 9:29 am, Elfardo wrote:
> Noo!
>
> -Clif "no longer a future owner of a 68cm Atlantis" Wright
>
> > So I emailed John at Rivendell asking about Atlantis sizing and he
> > confirmed that the Atlantis will
Noo!
-Clif "no longer a future owner of a 68cm Atlantis" Wright
> So I emailed John at Rivendell asking about Atlantis sizing and he
> confirmed that the Atlantis will top out at 61cm.
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"And I wonder if they would consider creating a waiting list--once X
people plunk down deposits, an order goes off to Japan. "
To some extent, that's how it works now. On any given day of the year,
you can call Riv (or your favorite Riv dealer) to order a frame, and
much of the time, your preferr
<< So I emailed John at Rivendell asking about Atlantis sizing and he
confirmed that the Atlantis will top out at 61cm.>>
Mike, thanks for the investigative reporting. I wonder if there is a
batch size X such that the production of a particular frame size would
be economically justified. And I wo
Mike
>Sent: Jan 5, 2009 9:41 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch
>Subject: [RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing
>
>
>So I emailed John at Rivendell asking about Atlantis sizing and he
>confirmed that the Atlantis will top out at 61cm. The bigger sizes
>didn't sell very welll and they
So I emailed John at Rivendell asking about Atlantis sizing and he
confirmed that the Atlantis will top out at 61cm. The bigger sizes
didn't sell very welll and they're thinking the Bombadil could fill in
the gap. I guess that makes sense in these tight times when a small
business can't have produ
Well, I am glad I got my 64 cm Atlantis a year anda half ago. It is
perfiect.
Regards,
David
On Jan 3 6:03 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 17:07 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM, erik jensen
> > wrote:
> > > I seems unlikely that would be at caus
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 17:07 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM, erik jensen
> wrote:
> > I seems unlikely that would be at cause, since any price difference would be
> > incumbent upon the buyer of the frame and still would be unlikely to make
> > things prohibitively expen
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM, erik jensen
wrote:
> I seems unlikely that would be at cause, since any price difference would be
> incumbent upon the buyer of the frame and still would be unlikely to make
> things prohibitively expensive (especially considering the frames are now
> selling for 2
I seems unlikely that would be at cause, since any price difference would be
incumbent upon the buyer of the frame and still would be unlikely to make
things prohibitively expensive (especially considering the frames are now
selling for 2K).
Cheers,
erik
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 3:50 PM, EricP wro
I'm hoping it isn't due to shipping charges. Wasn't it mentioned on
this list early in the year that shipping larger frames has become
prohibitively expensive? Could have sworn to reading about that
someplace.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Jan 3, 2:22�pm, "erik jensen"
wrote:
> I believe that the
I believe that the atlantis and bombadil are very different bicycles, for a
variety of reasons--the geometries have significant differences, and while a
mountain bike has advantages in certain loaded touring situations it hardly
seems the refined bicycle that really made the atlantis a standout.
I
I don't like to self-promote too much, but...I have a 68 Atlantis from
a recent production run in stock. This is the one with the seat tube
panel, kickstand plate, and various convenient rack braze-ons, etc.
Jim
On Jan 3, 1:47 pm, z-man wrote:
> I have a 67 AHH set-up as a rando-type bike, but
I have a 67 AHH set-up as a rando-type bike, but an Atlantis can take
some big rubber. I like the B-dil but that double top tube-I don't
know. I wouldn't even get that on a 69 AHH-not necessary. Maybe on
some future run they will bring in the 64-66-68 Atlantis. A 61 might
make a decent mtn bike
I'm at work and can't view the Rivendell website as it doesn't work
with the outdated version of Explorer that I'm stuck using. Has
Rivendell discontinued the 64cm Atlantis? I noticed this morning that
the cost has gone up significantly although I doubt their profit
margin has gone up along with t
And a related guess: If a tall person who was thinking 64 cm through 68
cm Atlantis is thinking that the Bombadil is overkill for their needs,
it might make more sense for them to go with a tall AHH. Perhaps this
leaves 64, 66, and 68 cm Atlantises as redundant. And if you are a fan
of the Bri
Very sad indeed. The biggest reason I went with an Atlantis is because
it was the only bike I could find that felt right for touring. I'm
just about 6' 2" but I have a 37" PBH and a 66 or 64cm Atlantis was
the only way to go for me (I went with the 66 which has been working
out fine even if it loo
yes, this is sad indeed if true.
I'm glad I got my 66cm before such a change, it's easily my favorite and
most useful bicycle.
erik
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 1:27 PM, James Warren wrote:
>
>
> Here's my guess: Tall people who are ready to order a 64 cm or 68 cm
> Atlantis are perhaps changing their
Here's my guess: Tall people who are ready to order a 64 cm or 68 cm
Atlantis are perhaps changing their minds and going to the 60 cm or 64
cm Bombadil.
I hope that's the reason.
-Jim
On Jan 3, 2009, at 8:27 AM, z-man wrote:
>
> After posting a comment on the Sam as a Mtn bike I checked out
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