[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

The white-to-smoke fade on those Diamond Backs was very cool! On Thursday, March 28, 2013 7:52:41 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: > HA! I wonder if any have ever been resprayed in full early 90's > craziness?! Although I must admit to being fond of several of those > schemes. Obviously Klein had the bi

Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

I am at the folks house and just looked at it again, still is rocking the gel seat topper I used to think you needed. My Dad had always used Brooks saddles and I would comment how I could never hang with something so hard..oh how we learn. On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:14 AM, cyclotourist wrote: > I

Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

The repaint thing is an interesting mental exercise depending on the bike. A friend of mine is pretty adamant about how the life of a bike frame is finite and if you can extend that life by repainting it then it's a no brainer. Where it gets a little complicated for me is when I consider repainti

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I prefer the GT splatter/drizzle to the Trek. Don't forget the purple anodized bits! On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Peter Morgano wrote: > I still have my early 90s Trek with neon yellow paint and black spatters, > its in the basement of my parents house. Paint is still offensively loud in >

Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

I still have my early 90s Trek with neon yellow paint and black spatters, its in the basement of my parents house. Paint is still offensively loud in the sun after all these years, haha. On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:52 AM, jinxed wrote: > HA! I wonder if any have ever been resprayed in full early

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

HA! I wonder if any have ever been resprayed in full early 90's craziness?! Although I must admit to being fond of several of those schemes. Obviously Klein had the big stick on the fades, but the Colnago Decor themes were awesome, and one of my all time favorites was the original Salsa "jelly

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Joe, If such a color schemed All Rounder comes up you have exclusive dibs on that deal ;) Hugh Sunland, CA On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:03:52 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Most Rivs get repainted by a known Riv-painter, and hue close to Grant's > guidelines for what a Rivendell should loo

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Most Rivs get repainted by a known Riv-painter, and hue close to Grant's guidelines for what a Rivendell should look like. I don't think that type of respray devalues them, especially if it's a Joe Bell job. Now if you see a neon pink/orange/red fade, all bets are off ;) On Wednesday, March 27,

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Brad, First really good looking bike and I like your set up. I don't typically like yellow cause its so bright but yours at least in the picture and viewed on my laptop display looks like a muted yellow which looks awesome! I appreciate the confirmation of the original decals. As far as the va

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Wouldn't this frame be worth more/ be more valuable if Richard Sachs made it? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+

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I hear ya, Dave (and have probably given you the same advice), but I just don't have the budget for it after buying a Rambouillet last week. We all gotta draw the line somewhere, and mine is at 1300 bucks for another frame. Of course it'd be great if the seller came down to something I could co

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Hugh, Indeed, my 96 AR has a "speared" Rivendell and no decals on the seat tube aside from the Reynolds tubing designation. Actually it's pretty plain. Here's a snap of the bare frame Interesting question you raise

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When I had my pre-production Road repainted, the painter found just two sets of the original decals avail. I bought one of them of course. The "Rivendell" decal on this bike is correct for a custom, I believe. On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:51 AM, hsmitham wrote: > @Joe, Curious AntBikeMike claims

Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Sorry I figure TCO is referring to toe overlap? -Hugh Sunland, CA On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:09:45 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > Yes, good points. You have to make some compromises to avoid TCO on > smaller frames. That's one of the big argument for going with 650B. > > > On Wed,

Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Yes, good points. You have to make some compromises to avoid TCO on smaller frames. That's one of the big argument for going with 650B. On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:36 AM, iamkeith wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:59:19 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> (top tube is kinda' lon

Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Addison, Great blog and pictures of your AR and you have truly shown its versatility with the numerous configurations. Thanks, Hugh Sunland, CA On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:15:46 AM UTC-7, Addison wrote: > > Mine's around a '99 Match built if memory serves. Some pics to scan > through here

Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:59:19 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > (top tube is kinda' long for the seat tube, 51X54 is unusual), > > If it is in fact a 51cm frame built around 700c tires as noted (which certainly looks to be correct, based on the proportion), and room for some

Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Mine's around a '99 Match built if memory serves. Some pics to scan through here as far as decals and such. http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/search?q=rivendell+allrounder On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > Hugh, my initial information didn't take into account the transit

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Hugh, my initial information didn't take into account the transition from Waterford Rivs to custom Rivs I mentioned later in this thread. I now believe this frame was a custom made with those lugs, and painted/decaled as seen by Joe Bell at that time. For an example of a Waterford Riv with or

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Joe, if that's your size (top tube is kinda' long for the seat tube, 51X54 is unusual), then it's a great find. Sometimes you just gotta' do it! If you can get a serial #, shoot it by Riv's direction and ask if they can give you any info. That should at least be able to confirm the builder and year

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

@Joe, Curious AntBikeMike claims original lugs and Head badge, but later decals? So then you believe the frame was painted at what point based on the decals? Would a repaint de-value the Frame and fork? You said earlier that the Original AR didn't have a seat tube decal? Does anyone have a exam

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

I got more info from Mike, most of which is now in the Ebay listing. It was a demo Grant had in 95/96 after the customer returned it because he didn't dig the low BB height. You can see the fillet-brazed chainstays used to accommadate this design. Mike mentioned it might have been built by Della

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

I think this is a 98 or 99 when they went a little more custom and left Waterford...and it looks more long-lowish to me...custom tubing and this is when Joe Bell started painting their frames...could be Match-built or early Joe Starck My A/R ordered in 1997 for frame and fork was 1200 + 100 fo

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

The plot thickens. AntBikeMike tells me it's a custom for 700c wheels. So we have original lugs and headbadge, but it's a custom with fancy Joe Bell paint and later decals. Well ok then. On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:42:52 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: > Just saw this on Ebay. > > > http://www.eba

Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Great looking bike and easily worth the asking price IMO. WHat would you pay to get that as a custom today? Double what is asked for. It IS my size, but I'd have to sell something to live up to my "bikes cash neutral" promise to the Mrs. I like the bikes I already have, but someone will get a nice

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

The US dollar is worth quite a but less though, at least compared to the CAD$. In 1996, the Canadian dollar was worth about US$0.72. Now its roughly at par. So in 1996 an A/R ($1575 US) would have cost north of the border here CAD$2187. Now we would pay more-or-less the same, customs and shi

Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

roups.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:06 PM > *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay. > > Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c LongLow came with cantis, right? > > > On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:50:00 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: > >

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

I'm not sure how far back Joe Bell paintjobs go, but those decals are definitely more recent than 95/96. The earliest Rivs had solid paint, the downtube decal was speared, and I don't think there was a seattube decal at all. There's a yellowish A/R recently posted here which shows this. On Tues

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Corrected: IIRC, you could get canti or sidepull for the LL. At least early on. -Norm in PDX. From: Joe Bernard To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:06 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay. Are we sure

Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

IIRC, you could get canti or sidepull. At least early on. -Norm in PDX. From: Joe Bernard To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:06 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay. Are we sure it's an A/R? The

Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

The oldest catalog I have is '99 and ARs were 1575. -Norm in PDX From: hsmitham To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:11 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay. Edwin I was thinking the same thing. Wha

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Edwin I was thinking the same thing. What did they sell for back in the day? Joe how can you tell its a respray? Hugh Sunland, CA On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:48:14 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote: > > > If that frame sells for $1500, it sure did hold its value! > What did that frame set go for in 1995

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

If that frame sells for $1500, it sure did hold its value! What did that frame set go for in 1995/6? Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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There was a time where, at that frame size, you'd know the A/R by its 26" wheels. On not-large ones, 26" wheels were a defining characteristic. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c LongLow came with cantis, right? > > > On T

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c LongLow came with cantis, right? On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:50:00 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: > It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress.com/blog/ > > Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions. > > Cheers! > cm > >

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress.com/blog/ Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving e

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

This is getting a little nuts. Every A/R in the country is suddenly for sale! This one appears to be a respray. The early headbadge is accurate, but the decals and fancy-Joe-Bell paint are what customs come with. Very pretty, my size, yada yada. Oy! Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, March