Re: [RBW] Re: Acorn Hobo and Nitto Lamp Holder

2010-02-25 Thread Roy Yates
Doug, Thanks for confirming my suspicions. ...Roy On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:35 AM, doug peterson wrote: > Roy: > > That's a question that I also had, so I did a bit of fiddling on the > answer. I took a standard rear trunk bag, appox length & width of a > rear rack, and mounted on the small

[RBW] Re: Acorn Hobo and Nitto Lamp Holder

2010-02-24 Thread doug peterson
Roy: That's a question that I also had, so I did a bit of fiddling on the answer. I took a standard rear trunk bag, appox length & width of a rear rack, and mounted on the small Nitto front rack. Lead dive weights are handy for these experiments since the weight can be concentrated in a small ar

Re: [RBW] Re: Acorn Hobo and Nitto Lamp Holder

2010-02-24 Thread Roy Yates
I agree that closer to the axis of rotation should be better since it minimizes the moment of inertia. This suggests that less rotation of a front bag is better. In that case, here in the RBW world that there are bikes with high handlebars and tall headtubes such that it would be feasible (especial

[RBW] Re: Acorn Hobo and Nitto Lamp Holder

2010-02-24 Thread Patrick in VT
On Feb 23, 8:26 pm, Roy Yates wrote: > In any event, I saw a custom rack this weekend, similar to a Nitto M-12 mini > front rack with a classic looking boxy rando bag (although i can't remember > which.) However, instead of a decaleur coming down from the bars/stem, the > vertical U loop at the

Re: [RBW] Re: Acorn Hobo and Nitto Lamp Holder

2010-02-24 Thread Ken Freeman
As I understand it, the best location for a front load isn't necessarily lower, but primarily it should be closer to the steering axis. If you move a bag lower, it gets closer to the steering axis. If you look at front pannier racks, the center of the loaded pannier usually falls in line with the

Re: [RBW] Re: Acorn Hobo and Nitto Lamp Holder

2010-02-23 Thread Roy Yates
Doug and Rob, Thanks for answering my newb questions. I generally would imagine lower is better for a front bag, except its hard to see exactly why since a bag tightly fixed to the handlebars goes through the same rotation as a bag on a front rack as the bars are turned. I suppose it's related to

[RBW] Re: Acorn Hobo and Nitto Lamp Holder

2010-02-23 Thread doug peterson
Roy: +1 for Rob's general comments about loading. It does boil down to personal preference. We've had several lively discussions re: trail, load placement, etc., with no clear consensus. But it keeps us thinking. To your question, my answer is an un-qualified "Yes". I've tried an old fashione

[RBW] Re: Acorn Hobo and Nitto Lamp Holder

2010-02-23 Thread rperks
in General handling should be improved by keeping the load/mass lower and above the axel. This largely falls into the personal preferance range though. The loads I carry in the front: Panasonic GF1 Spare Tube Wallet Phone Keys Extra water on a big day this keeps the load weight pretty low, all th

[RBW] Re: Acorn Hobo and Nitto Lamp Holder

2010-02-22 Thread J. Burkhalter
thanks for sharing rob. some of my favorite things about this list (and others) are the clever hacks and tweaks folks come up with to suit their riding needs. very nice rodeo, btw! -jay b. denver, co On Feb 22, 4:45 pm, rperks wrote: > I know that some of you out there are as in love with the

[RBW] Re: Acorn Hobo and Nitto Lamp Holder

2010-02-22 Thread doug peterson
Rob: Nice arrangement, and good intentions on minimizing the amount of stuff carried. However, if you need a just a little bit more capacity, I found Riv's Hobo bag makes a nice saddle bag, so presumable the Acorn would as well. A bar tube is a good place for snack, wallet, phone, etc. where you