[RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread archangel
seems the undertube is functional. also seems the taiwan hillbornes chould serve most who don't want the undertube. i like the update about color. not that i don't like orange, but i like the green. "UPDATE April 1, 2011: Incoming Taiwan Sam Hillbornes are green!" - rivbike dot com On Apr 18, 1

[RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread EricP
Not me. In fact,that's another reason why I've never used anything with that name on it. Other than a peanut butter wrench. Then again, because of my size, won't ride a bike with Tange Prestige tubing, either. Yes, the modern stuff could, probably, hopefully, take my weight. But am not going t

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 16:28 -0700, John Speare wrote: > > I agree that it probably wasn't designed for a 290'er, but it better > be designed for a 220'er at least. I see lots of big big dudes around > here on fly-weight carbon bikes with low-spoke-count wheels. > I wonder how many of them are us

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread John Speare
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 15:04 -0700, rperks wrote: > > If I want a "road" bike, no matter what the percieved > > light and fast marketing schtik is, it will likely be built for the > > potential heavy weight. > > I think it's pretty safe to

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 15:04 -0700, rperks wrote: > If I want a "road" bike, no matter what the percieved > light and fast marketing schtik is, it will likely be built for the > potential heavy weight. I think it's pretty safe to say your LBS carbon fiber racing bike with the lightly spoked wheels

[RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread rperks
"on a bike that could conceivably be ridden by a 290-lb rider, a little conservativeness is not a bad thing" This is something all of us as rivendell consumers have to come to terms with. The potential for riders of this stature is real and a constraint that production bike designers face and cus

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread CycloFiend
Grant - Thanks for adding some behind-the-scenes facts to the discussion. The San Marcos and Roadeo have both seemed like four-wheel-drive Ferraris to me - fat, plush suspension slung below a rocket sled frame. It's always interesting to see how these projects evolve. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclof

[RBW] Re: AMOS... AndyUndertube

2011-04-18 Thread grant
The Amos...I'm not sure when it'll come out. I hear, from Merry Sales, that it'll be about a monthbut I know from experience that it could be three. It won't hit with a big splash anyway---the last I heard, MS was going to bring in only fifteen each of the 54, 59, and 63; and of those fifteen,