Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread ascpgh
Ownership, operational control and employees of a similar vein (or educated to such level) make great shops. Every painful trip to Interbike, necessitated by the big vendors in order to be able to access their inventory, reiterated the mom and pop nature of many LBSs; they used the trip to Inte

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread IanA
The issue of bike fit is a definite mine-field with strong opinions held by many. I've had strangers compliment my bicycle, then say "a bit too big for you though". It kind of bothers me, but off they go clacking away, lycra at the rustle thrying desperately to stretch their neck before riding

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread hugh flynn
In this case, "rad" was intended to imply 'whatever happens to be new and exciting to the kids today.' In my experience that tends to be whatever race-inspired, low spoke, 47-speed, electronic thing happens to be on the cover of the most recent issue of Bicycling! Hugh "painting with a brush so b

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread Patrick Moore
Mommy! I feel as if I am going to fall over! One last* post on this topic, to ensure that I do all I can to justify myself. The customer in question was quite young and struck me as nice but naive; he also struck me as exceedingly tall -- my younger brother is 6'2" and this young man was noticeab

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread Jim Bronson
What do you mean by "rad equipment"? Just that's it's super cool or is there something in particular about "rad" like a brand name using the term? Is the slang term "rad" back in style now? If so where I have I been? (out riding my bike probably). On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Hugh Flynn w

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread Jim Bronson
That is the weirdest looking Tri/TT bike I have ever seen. On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Tim Gavin wrote: > I wonder if the owner of this bike was sold the "wrong" bike and then > tried to remedy that? Or if he had this vision from the get-go? > > > > He has a Riv-approved bar height on tho

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread Hugh Flynn
There can be quite a bit of difference between the way the shop owner (presumably someone who has spent some time in the industry) might approach a customer and the way a 20 year old bike-fan turned shop employee might approach that same customer. This is where the selling of rad equipment to pa

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread Tim Gavin
I wonder if the owner of this bike was sold the "wrong" bike and then tried to remedy that? Or if he had this vision from the get-go? He has a Riv-approved bar height on those aero bars... but via some kind of stem-strosity. And his seat is wa tall. This looks like the result of the "buy

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread Peter Morgano
Personally if I was buying anything and it looked like the salesman was steering me wrong I don't see anything wrong with some advice from a stranger as long as its delivered in an appropriate manner. You don't have to heed it, but its nice sometimes to get a 2nd opinion. On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread Patrick Moore
For the record, the incident I related involved a case where the buyer, had he bought, would have spent money on something ill fitting, therefore a waste of money to that extent. This was not a matter of "taste". One may feel obliged to remain silent even in such a case, but I did not. On Mon, Ju

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread Brewster Fong
On Monday, June 30, 2014 10:00:05 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: > > > I agree Bobby , > > I'm all for the support of a LBS. Yet am I based on own prejudices , > going to interfere with their business ? This seems hypocritical . Yes, > saying my bike or riding my-way-is-thee-way is my own pre-judg

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread Garth
I agree Bobby , I'm all for the support of a LBS. Yet am I based on own prejudices , going to interfere with their business ? This seems hypocritical . Yes, saying my bike or riding my-way-is-thee-way is my own pre-judging my-way-is-thee-way as thee-best-way. Is it really ? Compare

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread Garth
I agree Bobby , I'm all for the support of a LBS. Yet am I based on own prejudices , going to interfere with their business ? This seems hypocritical . Yes, saying my bike or riding my-way-is-thee-way is my own pre-judging my-way-is-thee-way as thee-best-way. Is it really ? Compare

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread Garth
I agree Bobby , I'm all for the support of a LBS. Yet if I based on own prejudices , am I going to interfere with their business ? This seems hypocritical . Yes, saying my bike or riding my-way-is-thee-way is my own pre-judging my-way-is-thee-way as thee-best-way. Is it really ? Co

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread Patrick Moore
I disagree, though I do believe one ought to interfere politely and diplomatically and, second, know more in the instance than the shop employee. Perhaps one ought to appeal by lurking in the shadows outside the shop and craftily approaching the mark in private. This falls under the golden rule pri

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-30 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Caveat emptor... I personally wouldn't interfere with a conversation between a bike shop employee and a potential customer, even if I'm cringing (unless explicitly asked for my opinion)... It's entirely the choice of the buyer to seek advice from the bike shop and for the buyer to decide based

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-29 Thread Brewster Fong
On Friday, June 27, 2014 8:54:29 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Unlike you, I did say a word when I stood next to a young man who was at > least 6'3" tall (he was taller than my 6'2" brother) to whom the clerk was > trying to sell a 56 cm frame. I threw a wrench into the spokes of that sale

Re: [RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-27 Thread Patrick Moore
Unlike you, I did say a word when I stood next to a young man who was at least 6'3" tall (he was taller than my 6'2" brother) to whom the clerk was trying to sell a 56 cm frame. I threw a wrench into the spokes of that sale! With modern compact frames, roughly what heights would ride a 56 -- not s

[RBW] Overheard at a bike shop

2014-06-26 Thread Anne Paulson
On my recent Sierra to the Sea tour, I stopped off at a bike shop that catered to the more racey crowd. It appeared to sell only carbon fiber bikes. And I think maybe the employees were not always keeping their customer's actual needs in mind. As I was waiting for a riding companion to get his iss