Personally if I was buying anything and it looked like the salesman was steering me wrong I don't see anything wrong with some advice from a stranger as long as its delivered in an appropriate manner. You don't have to heed it, but its nice sometimes to get a 2nd opinion.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > For the record, the incident I related involved a case where the buyer, > had he bought, would have spent money on something ill fitting, therefore a > waste of money to that extent. This was not a matter of "taste". One may > feel obliged to remain silent even in such a case, but I did not. > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Brewster Fong <bfd...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On Monday, June 30, 2014 10:00:05 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: >>> >>> >>> I agree Bobby , >>> >>> I'm all for the support of a LBS. Yet am I based on own prejudices , >>> going to interfere with their business ? This seems hypocritical . Yes, >>> saying my bike or riding my-way-is-thee-way is my own pre-judging >>> my-way-is-thee-way as thee-best-way. >>> >> >> Agree, a shop is in the business of selling bikes. If it is that narrow >> minded to put on a buyer on the wrong bike, then I doubt that bike shop is >> going to be in business for very long. My LBS has been around since >> 1975. The owner is one of the best fitters in the SF Bay Area. But he sells >> all types of bikes. He has the latest carbon Time, Looks, Bianchis and >> Giants. He also sells the new Albion and other steel bikes from >> custom (formerly US distributor for Ron Cooper to Della Santa to the latest >> from the new Masi, Soma and Waterford). He also has a wall full of >> Colnagos including steel and carbon. >> >> But, the key is to put you on the type of bike that you will ride! If it >> means putting you the latest 14lb carbon wonder bike with your bar dropped >> 6 inches below the saddle and 11-23 11speed cassette, done. If you want a >> steel bike with bars higher than your saddle and 13-34 gearing with a >> triple, done! If you're a fat guy, like me (e.g., 200lb) and want carbon, >> no problem. But he's give you a compact crank (50/34) and low gearing >> (11-28; 12-30) to help you get up the hill. He will also "raise dat bar" >> when needed! Whatever works to get you on the road and enjoying your bike! >> Good Luck! >> >>> >>> Is it really ? Compared to who ? My choices work for me, if someone >>> wishes to emulate that in some way, great. If not, great . >>> >>> Would I like if I had business selling bikes, have customers >>> discouraging potential customers from buying my bikes ? . . . I think not >>> ! >>> >> >>> There are many facets to the Golden Rule ! The shop owner qualifies as >>> someone whom I wish well for also , not just a customer I think is being >>> taken advantage of. Vengeance and self-righteousness can be very subtle , >>> like a calm sea masking the tsumani within it. >>> >>> All THAT said . .. lol . . . there is no absolute right or wrong >>> answer, just infinite ways of answering . This, is Life. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, June 30, 2014 11:42:05 AM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB >>> wrote:Caveat emptor... I personally wouldn't interfere with a conversation >>> between a bike shop employee and a potential customer, even if I'm cringing >>> (unless explicitly asked for my opinion)... It's entirely the choice of the >>> buyer to seek advice from the bike shop and for the buyer to decide based >>> on whatever he/she feels is right for them (whether right or wrong in my >>> mind). It's not my place to intercede. >>> >>> While I gain personal satisfaction knowing I have 'converted' several >>> people's thinking towards the Rivish bikestyle, I try not to impose my >>> beliefs too strongly, I simply demonstrate by example. Those who scoff at >>> my bike preferences (as being different from their own), well that's >>> entirely their choice, and more power to them. I have a good friend who >>> rides a beautiful Dario Pegoretti road bike (and only rarely, >>> unfortunately), and every time I show him a new bike I'm working on, the >>> first things he ALWAYS does is lift it and shake his head. (In my mind he >>> just doesn't get it, whereas I'm sure he thinks I'm nuts)... 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