Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-10-10 Thread P W
Ah, I was worried you were referring to the VBC system.Apologies for the thread derailment…Carry on!P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Oct 10, 2024, at 6:26 AM, ian m wrote:On Thursday, October 10, 2024 at 8:45:55 AM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote:Why do you think this?As in: they will no longer be produc

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-10-10 Thread ian m
On Thursday, October 10, 2024 at 8:45:55 AM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote: Why do you think this? As in: they will no longer be producing VBC rings? [image: eno.jpg] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe fro

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-10-10 Thread P W
Why do you think this?As in: they will no longer be producing VBC rings?P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Oct 9, 2024, at 5:22 PM, ian m wrote:Also looks like WI is discontinuing the double chainrings when they run out of current stock. Too bad, may have to pick one up just incase I find a deal on cranksOn

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-10-09 Thread Bill Lindsay
Frustration! LOL, OK thanks for playing. I think of them as usable consumable parts. I think of the extra $12 for a DOS ENO outer ring is like buying double the mileage before they are both worn out. That just seems like a good deal. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Wednesday, October 9, 2

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-10-09 Thread Ray Varella
Mostly out of curiosity Bill, In the decades I’ve had fixed gear bikes I have yet to flip a wheel despite having a flip flop hub. I bought a Roaduno and I’ve been riding a lot and have debated putting a tensioner on it and there’s the option of a dos eno. I’ll likely stick with it as a single s

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-10-09 Thread ian m
Also looks like WI is discontinuing the double chainrings when they run out of current stock. Too bad, may have to pick one up just incase I find a deal on cranks On Wednesday, October 9, 2024 at 7:44:28 PM UTC-4 CJ wrote: > I have a bunch of singlespeed bicycles and a bunch more "traditionally

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-10-09 Thread ian m
I loved my eno dinglespeed I had when I lived in Oakland. A nice tooling around town gear and then switch to the inner ring and cog to climb the Berkeley hills. Then I moved to a much hillier locale and sold it almost 10 years ago. Would love to build a budget version but doesn't seem like there

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-10-09 Thread CJ
I have a bunch of singlespeed bicycles and a bunch more "traditionally" geared bikes. Dingles, 2x1, 3x1, etc. fall into an "uncanny valley" for me. As you know, with a singlespeed you're (almost) never in the right gear. You make do. With a double or triple, I know I'd find myself frustrated, a

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-10-09 Thread Bill Lindsay
If I ever I build a bike with a single chain ring, I'll report back. Do you have a reason to believe why it wouldn't be quite? Or quiet? We're talking about a 3/32" chain, aka a derailleur chain. Bill Lindsay On Tuesday, October 8, 2024 at 9:54:35 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote: > One possibl

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-10-08 Thread Ray Varella
One possible reason is not knowing the doubles and singles use the same body. Up until I read this post, I was not aware the parts were interchangeable. With a single chainring up front, is the chain line quite in both cogs? Ray On Tuesday, October 8, 2024 at 8:49:44 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrot

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-10-08 Thread Bill Lindsay
For those following the saga, there's an update. I received a 16/18 drive ring on warranty and bought a 17/19 to restore my worn out 18T freewheel. Both those new freewheels are built up and ready to use. Here's a weird pricing anomaly: A single White Industries ENO freewheel is around $12

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-09-30 Thread Bill Lindsay
White Industries is a full on machine shop there in Petaluma. They are not set up to re-work a part. Particularly not a discontinued part. If they let me keep the bad one, I'll attempt the rework on my own. I'm in the process of buying a 17/19 drive ring for one freewheel, and getting a wa

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-09-30 Thread Ray Varella
Hey Bill, Out of curiosity, do you know if WI machines the cogs in their Petaluma shop? If so, would it be possible to send it to them to machined into spec. When I’ve been picking up freight Nextdoor to them, it looks like they have a pretty well setup shop onsite. It might be worth asking si

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-09-30 Thread Bill Lindsay
Front chain line on a double is the imaginary mid-point between the two rings. You're using a 3/32" derailleur chain. As long as you are splitting the difference you are already doing MUCH better than anybody's derailleur bike with respect to chain line. To MEASURE chainlink, you use a cali

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-09-30 Thread Isaak Oliansky
General question here for the assembled geniuses: how are folks figuring their chainlines on 2 x 1 Melvin setups? Centering the rear cog between the two chainrings? I need to measure mine; my immediate thought is, how is one supposed to achieve a good chainline in this sort of setup where you're

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-09-29 Thread Stephen Durfee
My understanding is that the Roaduno, with its horizontal dropouts, does not allow one to slide the wheel back and forth without also requiring an adjustment to the rear brake pads. The QB, with slanted dropouts, did not have that same problem. I don't have either bike, I'm only repeating what

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-09-29 Thread Corwin Zechar
An 8 tooth jump between chainrings does not necessarily require a tensioner. One example of such a build is my Quickbeam as originally delivered. The Quickbeam had 32 and 40 teeth chainrings with a 22 tooth freewheel. No need for a chain tensioner as the dropouts supplied enough travel for the r

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-09-26 Thread P W
Ryan, I stuck with the DA.Because vibes.P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Sep 26, 2024, at 2:53 PM, Ryan wrote:Philip after shortening chain and putting on a new 19t WI freewheel , did you use the Melvin, the Dura Ace or nothing as a tensioner?...since you're just shifting between the 2 front chainrings?On

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-09-26 Thread Ryan
Although I guess, with an 8-tooth jump on the front you do have to have some kind of tensioner On Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 4:53:09 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote: > Philip after shortening chain and putting on a new 19t WI freewheel , did > you use the Melvin, the Dura Ace or nothing as a tensioner

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-09-26 Thread Ryan
Philip after shortening chain and putting on a new 19t WI freewheel , did you use the Melvin, the Dura Ace or nothing as a tensioner?...since you're just shifting between the 2 front chainrings? On Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 4:24:35 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote: > Bill, > > If god wanted you to

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-09-26 Thread Edwin W
Bill, If god wanted you to use a tensioner with a single speed, she wouldn't have created track ends. Seriously, I will be interested to hear how this shakes out, and what you discover, as it is a bit baffling why a multi gear freewheel will work and a single speed freewheel would not. Edwi

Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-09-26 Thread P W
That's interesting Bill. While finishing mine this week I ran into the same or similar issue using an 8pd chain, Paul Melvin and a White Industries 46/38 upfront. The freewheel in question was old and not great, mind you. I tried using an old Dura Ace RD instead of the Melvin. Same issue. I rep

[RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

2024-09-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
My first instantiation of my 58cm RoadUno was as a 14-speed, as immortalized in Will's email update. I used my wheel set which has a customized 120mm O.L.D. cassette hub which fits 7 cogs from a 9 speed cassette, updated with 10-speed spacers on what was traditionally a 5-speed spaced rear hub