Re: [RBW] An attempted RoadUno reconfiguration failure

[P W]

Ryan, I stuck with the DA. Because vibes. P. W. ~ (917) 514-2207 ~ On Sep 26, 2024, at 2:53 PM, Ryan <ryter...@mts.net> wrote: Philip after shortening chain and putting on a new 19t WI freewheel , did you use the Melvin, the Dura Ace or nothing as a tensioner?...since you're just shifting between the 2 front chainrings? On Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 4:24:35 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote: Bill, If god wanted you to use a tensioner with a single speed, she wouldn't have created track ends.  Seriously, I will be interested to hear how this shakes out, and what you discover, as it is a bit baffling why a multi gear freewheel will work and a single speed freewheel would not.  Edwin On Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 3:39:28 PM UTC-5 philip....@gmail.com wrote: That's interesting Bill.  While finishing mine this week I ran into the same or similar issue using an 8pd chain, Paul Melvin and a White Industries 46/38 upfront. The freewheel in question was old and not great, mind you. I tried using an old Dura Ace RD instead of the Melvin. Same issue. I replaced the shitty freewheel with a new White Industries 19T and reduced the chain to the shortest length I could get away with and still shift gears smoothly in the stand. I've only ridden it around a few blocks, unloaded, so far, but it's now as smooth as smooth could be. I'm surious to see, based on your experience, if it feels the same way tomorrow on its maiden, longer voyage... I'll throw a few things in the basket just to load it down some and put it through its paces properly... On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 11:54 AM Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote: My first instantiation of my 58cm RoadUno was as a 14-speed, as immortalized in Will's email update.  I used my wheel set which has a customized 120mm O.L.D. cassette hub which fits 7 cogs from a 9 speed cassette, updated with 10-speed spacers on what was traditionally a 5-speed spaced rear hub.  Naturally we call it 7of9with10on5.   I had it set up that way for a Mount Diablo Summit, and having done that, I wanted to reconfigure it with the stock wheels for normal city use.  I put the stock Saint Jump wheels on there, with a White Industries freewheel, using my Suntour rear derailleur as a tensioner.   Pics prove it: https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/54022678302/in/dateposted/ Problem was that in the stand, the chain was wanting to rise off the cog on my brand new DOS ENO freewheel.  It was worse on the 19 than the 16, but clearly it wanted to rise off on both of them just pedaling.  Weird.  I attributed it in part to the goopy factory lube on a brand-new SRAM 870 chain, and lubed it up and went to bed.  In the morning, I tried it out in the stand again and it was still riding up the cog.  I went into my freewheel box and found a USED White Industries single freewheel, 18T, and fired that on.  In the stand, that was perfecto, and that's what is in the photograph linked above.   I rode down the hill that night to the local family grocery store for cilantro and few mushrooms for a soup.  Turning back up the hill, DISASTER.  Under load, the same riding up and skipping was happening.  I took the most shallow slope back up the 400ft hill to my house, and put the bike up in the stand.   I returned the 10-speed spaced chain on there, that I had been using with my 7of9with10on5 configuration, and rode that around the block.  Same skipping under load.   I called it a failure and put the 7speed rear wheel back on, which is still perfecto.   My top hypothesis is that in a tensioner configuration, the system wants more tension from the tensioner than my 35 year old Suntour RD is providing.  I may experiment with shortening the chain to the minimum length for the two-speed configuration.  Some Suntour Rear Derailleurs have two different holes for the spring, so one can effectively make the spring a little stronger.  That would be experiment #2.  Finally, I may borrow the Paul Melvin from my 3x1 Romulus, to see if that's a far better tensioner.  That Romulus 3x1 drivetrain has been perfect.  For now it's a two speed, but it is running on the 18T cog of a 7sp cassette.   Maybe this is all just the universe telling me to buy a purple anodized Melvin? 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