Re: [RBW] Re: My First Riv (clydesdale MTB rider)

Hi Nick, thanks for organizing this table, it’s interesting. Both of your statements are correct: the 10mm difference in drop means the fillet Susie or Gus will sit 10mm higher if the tire is the same. And 10mm shorter cranks can make up for this (though a 70mm drop is still a pretty low BB by mou

Re: [RBW] What Do Riv Riders Enjoy As COFFEE !

Tea. Yorkshire gold, with a touch of honey and milk. Eric On Sunday, February 2, 2025, Garth wrote: > I remember when we used to have such discussions, so as I was making soome > this morning I was wondering just that. "What do Riv riders enjoy by way of > coffee ?" > > I'm a tinker-er, I'm al

Re: [RBW] Slipping/sliding/jumping/ghosting gears on a new Platypus

Are you keeping with friction shifting, or going indexed? Eric On Friday, January 17, 2025, meti...@gmail.com wrote: > Good Friday morning, friends. > > I took a beautiful ride on my new Platy yesterday…yes, there is still salt > and some ice on the roads and snow is everywhere, but temps were

Re: [RBW] What's the new model going to be in 2025?

Clearly it's a Rivendell/Slingshot collaboration. Think of the downtube lug to hold the spring on! Eric On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 1:50 PM Bill Lindsay wrote: > Grant's latest blagh includes a head badge mockup. > > https://www.riv

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day: My take on a Charlie H. Gallop

block this morning, but my block is a > steep incline and decline, and the bike has effortless one-finger braking, > which is how I planned it. Come on over to El Cerrito if you want to feel > it for yourself. > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Sunday, December 29, 2

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day: My take on a Charlie H. Gallop

Looks great. I love the idea of a dedicated flat bar road bike. But based on my previous experience, I’m very leery of the lack of stopping power of long reach side pull brakes in wet weather. I’ll look forward to a report from the field! Eric In rainy Plain City, OH On Sunday, December 29, 2024,

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: New 61.5cm Mustard Homer Hilsen frameset

What happened to the head badge? Eric On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 1:34 PM Paul M wrote: > Last call for this new Homer frameset with new Tektro brakes. > > On Sunday, 10 November 2024 at 16:06:24 UTC-8 Paul M wrote: > >> New price $1450 includes shipping. >> >> On Monday 4 November 2024 at 08:54:30 U

Re: [RBW] “Best practices” for selling bicycles online without getting hoodwinked?

My experience selling is that I (as the seller) choose the carrier and get a shipping cost. The buyer pays that along with the bike price before I send anything out. And use Paypal goods and services, not friends and family--buyers can retract F&F money after it's sent. Pirate Ship is my current g

[RBW] Anyone built their VO Camargue into a riv-inspired swept back build?

Yeah, I had a 130mm stem on the VO with the Oxford. The Bosco comes back even more, so it would need something even longer. Eric On Wednesday, November 20, 2024, DavidP wrote: > In the back of my head I remembered seeing a Camargue on Eric's blog and > it looks like he had Soma Oxford bars on

Re: [RBW] what can I expect when changing from drop to upright bars?

I just want to say, I think it’s awesome that Minh choose the QB as his one bike! Eric Wannabe minimalist, but six bikes now. Do I really need two folding bikes? On Monday, November 18, 2024, Minh wrote: > I ride my QB with albatross bars (exclusively for about 10 years now), for > a few years

Re: [RBW] Re: Joining RBW Owners Bunch without a Gmail address?

I use the email interface, but delete 99.5% of the posts (probably 80% of those unread). If I ever want to dig something up, it's online somewhere. Eric On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 4:40 PM Paul M wrote: > You need to click on "My membership settings" and then click on > "Subscriptions" and then cli

Re: [RBW] WTB: 650b Wheels for Susie

I live Velomine and have used them several times in the past, but boy, their website sucks. I'd much rather have some modern filters for diameter, hub size, disc, etc, rather than their random grouping of wheels by category. Eric On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 6:48 AM Matt C. wrote: > FYI, a few years

Re: [RBW] Soma sale - Triple crankset $28

Super tempting, but I already have a NA crankset from the last sale ("only" 65% off) sitting on my shelf. FYI, these say "XD2" on the back of the arms. Eric On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 8:25 PM velomann wrote: > Just got another "Overstock Extreme" email from Soma. Picked up a polished > New Albion

Re: [RBW] Hello all...

You seem like a good candidate for the step through modes (Platypus, Clem). No worries about standover height then. Eric On Sunday, September 22, 2024, Philip Hamilton wrote: > Like many, I've recently read the New Yorker article (posted below) that > features Rivendell bicycles. > > I'm an out

Re: [RBW] Re: (perhaps) dumb question time (bottle bosses)

Low bosses also allow more room for a frame bag above them, though the bosses have been low longer than frame bags have been a thing, so I'm thinking that keeping the weight low is the original reason. Eric On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 10:17 AM Ginz wrote: > My guess is that they want to you have

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell children's bike

Conventional wisdom says kids don't have enough hand strength for hand brakes. In fact, the CPSC requires kids bikes to have a coaster brake (they can't be hand brake only). Eric On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 12:42 PM Nick Shoemaker wrote: > > I’m intrigued by this too, but a little puzzled by the c

Re: [RBW] Puzzled by 2 Rivendell recommendations

, CA > > On Wednesday, September 11, 2024 at 2:56:06 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote: > >> The dropouts might be proprietary, but they're functionally identical to >> those on a 2003 Surly Karate Monkey... though I doubt Riv's have the Surly >> name cast in. >

Re: [RBW] Puzzled by 2 Rivendell recommendations

The dropouts might be proprietary, but they're functionally identical to those on a 2003 Surly Karate Monkey... though I doubt Riv's have the Surly name cast in. Eric On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 2:09 PM Bill Lindsay wrote: > "Wouldn't verticals make the frame less apt for its apparent intended use

Re: [RBW] Puzzled by 2 Rivendell recommendations

Riv is concerned the bottom bracket drop (80mm IIRC) is too low for a fixed gear—pedal strike concern. I would run it fixed without hesitation. Eric On Tuesday, September 10, 2024, Patrick Moore wrote: > I learn more about Riv from Bike Snob than from their website, tho' that > would easily be

Re: [RBW] Re: Ro-Deux-No build notes New Bike Day

I think I would try this experiment with a really cheap rear derailleur from the co-op, not a Paul Melvin. But that's just me. Eric On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 11:18 AM Mark V wrote: > Hi Bill - > My S-A 2sp does not have a coaster bake. So: Rim Brakes 4ever! (both > front and rear) > I'm using a

Re: [RBW] Nine is fine! 1x9 drivetrains in 2024. Who else is doing it?

If you like nine, Box has entire drivetrains on sale for about $70: https://boxcomponents.com/products/box-three-p9-wide-multi-shift-groupset I picked one up for some indeterminate future project. Eric On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 3:04 PM Michael Morrissey < michaelgmorris...@gmail.com> wrote: > I

Re: [RBW] Re: Horses and Donkeys

Sorry all, burro is already claimed for bikes. Here's an example I found: https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1300949 Somehow, those fat 20" wheels don't look so odd anymore. Eric On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 11:44 AM Mike Rossi wrote: > I believe donkey and burro are the same animal. But, I like to

Re: [RBW] Your Riv's Next Upgades / Parts Swaps

Or you could ride the good tires now and enjoy life. With any luck, the sidewalls on the Fatty Rumpkins might degrade into an unridable state by the time you get down to them. Eric Who deals with excess tires by selling them on bikes. On Sunday, July 14, 2024, Bill Lindsay wrote: > The only thi

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Prototype mountain bike for sale

26” wheels will have a longer head tube, plus I think the Riv mtb frame did have a bit of top tube slope. Eric On Saturday, July 6, 2024, George Schick wrote: > I'm puzzled by the posted frame size for this bike. For a bike with a 19" > seat tube I would expect to see a much shorter head tube.

Re: [RBW] Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

Do the Microshift shifters have that soft detent feel in friction mode? RIvendell used to spec something like this on the Clem. It wasn't a very good shifter, at least in friction mode. Eric On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 10:43 PM Michael Baquerizo wrote: > others mileage may vary, but i recently start

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

I agree on this. I love single speeds, and the 3x1 flexibility looks fun, and the 61.5m profile looks just right for me, but those long reach brakes are a deal breaker for me. I've built bikes with them in the past, and their stopping power in the wet is inadequate for me. Maybe the Riv guys never

Re: [RBW] Internal rim width

I would have zero concerns with that combo. Eric On Wednesday, June 26, 2024, dylan green wrote: > Hi - > > I'm considering getting some big Fleecer Ridge tires on my velocity dyads. > RH has a suggested rim width of 19mm, but the dyads measure 18.6. Anyone > have experience with this? I'm assu

Re: [RBW] Budget Clem L Build

You might want to get on Soma’s email list. They’ve been having some great sales (eg 65% off) and many of their parts will work great with a Riv build. Eric On Monday, May 27, 2024, Franco Rinaldi wrote: > Ciao Everybody, > > About to grab a Clem frame and really want to do a highly utilitarian

Re: [RBW] Budget Clem L Build

You might want to get on Soma’s email list. They’ve been having some great sales (eg 65% off) and many of their parts will work great with a Riv build. Eric On Monday, May 27, 2024, Franco Rinaldi wrote: > Ciao Everybody, > > About to grab a Clem frame and really want to do a highly utilitarian

Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?

Riv framesets come with a headset installed. That's the hardest job for a home mechanic, in my experience. The next hardest job is ordering the correct parts: bottom bracket spindle length and crank and (if you're using one) the front derailer all need to play together correctly. After that, it's m

Re: [RBW] Is an Atlantis Worth It?

I'm going to be the contrarian here. My experience is that I tend to enjoy the "cheap and cheerful" bikes more than bikes that were more expensive with greater expectations. I look at my little bike fleet, and sometimes think I could sell off a good chunk of them and buy something "nicer," but in p

Re: [RBW] The 3x1 road bike. Anticipating some of your RoadUNO builds

I've had a Melvin in my parts stash for years that's looking for a reason, so this build kind of appeals to me. But, out here in the flatlands, I don't really need three super widely spaced gears. With my cruising (normally fixed) gear of 44x17, maybe something like 44/40/36, about 10% jumps. Hmm,

Re: [RBW] Centerpull vs V-Brakes in terms of maintenance and use

; to have fewer possibilities for variation in performance because they're so > standardized in design and simple to set up, and therefore people don't > experience bad ones as often. Bad v-brakes do exist but they usually come > from Walmart. > > Josiah Anderson > Missoul

Re: [RBW] Centerpull vs V-Brakes in terms of maintenance and use

Bill says “it depends,” but I can only offer my experience, which is that both are adequate in the dry, but centerpulls are spooky weak when the rims are wet. Centerpulls do look nicer, but in every performance category, V brakes are a clear and easy win for me. Eric V brake fan On Thursday, Apri

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking to buy: V brakes and levers

The Yokozuna V brakes are currently 65% off at Soma, thru Sunday. I bought a pair at the last sale, they're nice enough. Seemed similar to Shimano Deore. Eric On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 6:53 PM Donzaemon wrote: > You can purchase Yokozuna v-brakes and levers from Soma. Wait till one of > their ki

Re: [RBW] how wide of wheels and tires will a specialized seqoia handle

I have an ‘82 as well and it has good clearance, depending on the brakes used. My current Superbe Pros have lots of room, while the previous Tektros were tighter. The previous owner said he could fit 35mm actual tires, and that looks possible (at least with the Suntour brakes) Eric On Wednesday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Long Chainstays - What Problem/Deficiency Do They Solve?

If you want Riv's explanation, it's here: https://www.rivbike.com/pages/why-the-long-stays-chainstay-length Eric On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 8:02 PM 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Bill > > > > I would say “solve some objective problem not addresse

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

Well, now I'm more curious and might have a reason to go visit my giant local Trek store! Eric On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 9:59 PM Mike Godwin wrote: > Eric D asked what model Treks. Good question, as I just walked in on the > sout side of the store and exited on the north side. > > Well, went bac

Re: [RBW] Hobson-Zingo tools tried and liked?

I bought the MP pump. I like it, but it’s not a clear winner: + great for quickly filling up high volume/ low pressure tires - difficult to get above 45 psi or so - the base is too small and makes it feel unstable. Because of the high pressure limitations, I ended up keeping my old floor pump aro

Re: [RBW] Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

You can buy a guard, but they are also easy to make: get a used/worn/cheap ring that maybe 4 teeth larger than your biggest ring, and grind, snap, or saw the teeth off, then file smooth. Eric On Thursday, March 7, 2024, David wrote: > This is all really great input. The trouble I'm having is fi

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

What Treks did you see? Looking at their website, I don't see anything that long, outside their Electra cruisers. Trek has a LOT of models though, so it's easy to overlook something. Eric On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:50 PM Mike Godwin wrote: > Went to my LBS looking for a bike box, and there is on

Re: [RBW] Box Size for 59 Clem

Shipping cost will still go up with dimensions. I’ve shipped enough bikes and frames to learn that cutting down boxes can make a significant difference (while still being in the oversized/dimensional weight category). Eric On Tuesday, March 5, 2024, Garth wrote: > These boxes are so large that

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

My guess is that Grant thinks the long chainstays are the clear winner, so why make a lesser design? (I completely understand they aren't a clear win for everybody) It's also a way to differentiate Riv products--there aren't that many long chainstay bikes around. Eric On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 11:5

Re: [RBW] I only have 1 chance to get a Rivendell.. which would you recommend?

I would get the Sam for the effective brakes. I've never had a good experience with long reach sidepulls. Eric On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 11:46 AM Polipop wrote: > Only 1 chance because I'm living in Asia and the closest place I can buy > is from Blue Lug online store in Tokyo. So, I have to pay f

Re: [RBW] RoadeoRosa teaser

So which gets built first? Tough choice ahead! Eric On Thursday, February 15, 2024, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Two completely separate 6-month long projects each stretched out to 2-year > projects independently and for different reasons. Each of those two > unrelated projects reach "New Frame Day"

Re: [RBW] Wanted: Jones LWB

Eric On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 5:57 PM Doug H. wrote: > That is a nice Stumpy, Eric! > Doug > > On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 2:32:56 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote: > >> Thanks Ryan. I’m tempted by the sale prices (again) but I think I’ll keep >> on enjoying my $100 psue

Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Jones LWB

Hey Ryan, At the risk of getting dangerously OT for the RBW list, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the SWB vs LWB. I've owned two LWBs, but I'm currently Jones-less. I enjoyed the LWB, but for my type of riding (either local road riding, or throw the bike in the car and drive to a mountain bike

Re: [RBW] Wanted: Jones LWB

Jones is having a sale right now, $500 off complete bikes. They don’t come up used very often. Eric On Monday, February 5, 2024, Joe D. wrote: > Good morning! > > I know there are lots of Jones Bikes aficionados amongst the Riv crowd, so > I figured this post is worth a try. I'm in the market

Re: [RBW] Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

The Surly Steamroller can take a 38mm tire, but no fender. The sadly out of production Cross Check could do a 38mm with a fender. Eric On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 5:16 PM Edwin W wrote: > I like single speed bikes, many like single speed bikes. The simplicity, > the possibility of fixed gear, it is

Re: [RBW] Mainstream press article pushing steel bike?

I don’t think many big box store customers are debating between a $200 Mongoose and a $4000 Rodeo. It would be nice to have an entry steel option, but aside from aesthetics, I would rather ride entry level aluminum. Cheap steel bikes are just heavy and overbuilt. Eric On Wednesday, January 31,

Re: [RBW] Dialing in a Brooks Saddle

My technique for dialing in a Brooks: 1. Loosen seat post bolt 2. Remove Brooks saddle 3. Replace with any other plastic saddle I happen to have nearby 4. Enjoy the better comfort, less slipperiness, lighter weight, and zero maintenance. YMMV :) Eric On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 10:27 PM Jay wrote:

[RBW] Re: FFS: MUSA pants large

Looks like the pants are spoken for. Thanks, Eric On Monday, January 29, 2024, Bob Warner wrote: > Hi Eric > If this are still available I’ll be happy take them!! > Bob > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 29, 2024, at 10:51 AM, Eric Daume wrote: > > Free for shippin

Re: [RBW] OK to post non Rivendell bikes for sale here?

Pinkbike has a very active buy/sell as well. Eric On Thursday, January 18, 2024, JohnS wrote: > You would probably hit a more suitable audience over at The Radavist, Rad > Bazaar. No cost to buy, but you have to be a member to post things for sale. > > https://radbazaar.theradavist.com/ > > Joh

Re: [RBW] Roaduno

The Grand Crus are mid reach brakes, the Roaduno will take long reach brakes. On Tuesday, January 9, 2024, Ryan wrote: > What about vo grand cru brakes? > > On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 4:11:26 AM UTC-6 Eric Daume wrote: > >> I can live with the hanger and shifter bos

Re: [RBW] Roaduno

I can live with the hanger and shifter boss, they offer some intriguing build ideas. But the long reach brakes killed this frame for me. Based on my previous experiences with them, they are barely adequate in the dry, and unacceptable in the wet. Maybe it doesn’t rain in Walnut Creek? I’m looking

Re: [RBW] Roadini Feedback

I briefly had a Roadini a few summers back. I really like the proportions of it--the tall head tube, long (but not too long) chainstays, but I wouldn't consider it a sporty road bike. The vintage Treks I've had have felt considerably sprightlier. To me, the Roadini felt more like an old school tour

Re: [RBW] Will Cliffhangers leave me hanging?

If your tires are narrow enough (less than 38mm or so) the Kool Stop tire jack is great to lever that last section of bead on. I carry it with me on bikes with difficult tire/rim combos. Eric On Thursday, December 28, 2023, Curtis McKenzie wrote: > Hello, > > Looking for some Cliffhanger wisdom

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Sam Hillbourne 62cm $500

Interesting it has a canti fork and caliper brakes in the rear. I wonder if the fork was replaced due to a crash, or they just wanted stronger brakes? Eric On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 11:11 PM Kim H. wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1389606294980753/ > > 52 minutes ago in Nashvill

Re: [RBW] Coaster Brakes for a Beachy Clem Build

Handsome has some coaster wheels for ~$150, but spaced at 110mm: https://handsomecycles.com/products/handsome-handbuilt-rear-wheel-single-speed-coaster-brake-aluminum-700c-silver Eric On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 12:58 PM Justin Kennedy wrote: > I'm considering converting my 64 Clem L frame into a

Re: [RBW] 135mm hub rear wheel in a roadini?

I had a Roadini and attempted to put my 135mm ENO hub in the back. It was a no go—the frame was too stiff to bend out. Maybe being the eccentric hub made this more difficult. By comparison, I had no issue putting a 135mm hub in my old 130mm BMC Monstercross, or a 130mm hub in my 126mm old road bik

Re: [RBW] A Homer Hill build....

IMO redundant gears are more of a conceptual or theoretical concern than a real issue. If you’re setting up a triple, you really end up with: - a middle ring for the majority of your riding - a small ring for big hills, use it with the biggest cogs in back - a big ring for downhills or otherwise g

Re: [RBW] Bag options on an Albastache bar?

Another vote for a saddle bag: On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 7:05 PM Frank Brose wrote: > I use a Riv Banana bag. > Frank > > On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 5:57:33 PM UTC-6 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote: > >> This is and old moustache bar build from several years ago but this >> upcycled military surplus

Re: [RBW] It finally happened re: Clem stock tires

I absolutely hated the stock tires on the Clem (Kenda Kwik Nines at the time). Maybe the worst feeling tire I’ve ever experienced. I can’t imagine six years on those things! Eric On Wednesday, November 8, 2023, Jim Bronson wrote: > Well after 6 years of owning my Clem and riding it at least 1x

Re: [RBW] Bluelug Visit to Rivendell (Video)

I was in Japan this last week for the auto show, but got a chance to visit Blue Lug. What a great shop! Though maybe it’s best for my wallet that it’s not so close (and most of the frames seemed to top out at a medium, too small for XL me). It was still fun to see so many of these frames in real li

Re: [RBW] Expert level bike commuting strategies?

Just to clarify, wandrer.earth is $30/YEAR, not per month. It’s a lot of fun to use. It took me a good nine months to cover the ~440 miles in my town. Rides get less and less efficient at picking up new miles as you ride… Eric On Friday, October 27, 2023, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Since you're reco

Re: [RBW] Boomerang Rivs

Jason, at the risk of going OT, I’d love to hear about your Wombat. It’s a bike I’ve been eyeing, even though I really can’t justify it. Thanks, Eric On Sunday, October 22, 2023, Jason Fuller wrote: > I did this with the Charlie Gallop - I sold it to a friend, then a few > months later after I

Re: [RBW] Best way to arrange 2-cog manual shifting for "single speed" disc braked bicycle

The simplest solution is to also use two chainrings, matching the cog difference (for instance, with a 16/18 Dos freewheel, use 42 and 44t chainrings). Then the 44/16 and 42/18 have the same chain length, and the rotor to pad relationship doesn't change. Or just use a disc front and a rim brake re

Re: [RBW] WTB/ISO New or Used Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur

Are you running friction shifting, and how big of a cassette will you go? Those will help determine what derailer you can run. Eric On Wednesday, October 11, 2023, Caroline Golum wrote: > Hey RBOBs, > > The time has finally come for a new rear derailleur! And this time I’d > like to expand my g

Re: [RBW] Re: 10/23 BLAGH regarding the Roaduno

Angled dropouts allow the rear rim to track the brake pad as you move the wheel back and forth in the dropouts. The upshot of this is that if you are performing manual gear changes (for instance, a 42t ring up front, and a 16/18 White Industries dos cog in the rear), you can change gears (by moving

Re: [RBW] Single Speed (QB/SO/RU..) Questions

Rivs are not unique in this. Your own BMC Monster Cross has angled drop outs, as does the Surly Cross Check and just about very pre-early 80s road bike. Eric On Friday, August 25, 2023, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Patrick Moore is " curious why an IGH with single ring and single cog is > more antithe

Re: [RBW] Single Speed (QB/SO/RU..) Questions

I used to futz around with my old Cross Check, with lot of theoretical geared and fixed combos out of a 36/40 chainring combo, a 16t fixed cog, and a 16/19 freewheel. Or something. Now I'm simplifying and mostly just run my old Trek with a 46/17 fixed gear, about 72" inches on 650b wheels. That wor

Re: [RBW] Cycling shoes for wide feet?

Not at all classic, but 5-10s fit my wide feet with room to spare. Eric. On Sunday, August 20, 2023, Eric Marth wrote: > I noticed some discussion from other widefoot cyclists over in another > thread about a pair of Dromarti shoes that are for sale. At the risk of > further drifting a simple

Re: [RBW] A College Clem

I think many of us have had an experience where we cared much more about the bike for a loved one than the loved one does. Maybe that’s where the question was coming from. Eric Three kids, zero who care about bikes :( On Tuesday, August 15, 2023, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-

Re: [RBW] A College Clem

The 1x1 isn’t made any more, and they hold their value really well as they seem to be coming somewhat collectible. The replacement is the Lowside, I think it’s about $890 for the frame set. Not really a value play anymore. Eric On Friday, August 11, 2023, George Schick wrote: > I'll chime in wi

Re: [RBW] A College Clem

A Clem with a dyno hub and a few accessories is a $2500 machine. That’s pretty expensive by most any standard. Eric On Monday, August 7, 2023, Joe Bernard wrote: > I'm with Max on this. It's a good bike designed to be used as a > commuter/shopper/cruiser, and not so maddeningly expensive that i

Re: [RBW] A College Clem

I'm going to join the majority and say don't send the Clem to college. IF* your boy needs a bike at school, buy a cheap hybrid, new or used. Bike shops are desperate to sell anything right now, and the used market is also oversaturated. *It's been a long time since I was at college, but even as a

Re: [RBW] ISO Roadini...or?

If the Roadini with its double oversized tubing is lighter than an RB1… I would be very surprised. I’ve owned both, but probably 20 years apart. But tall head tubes, long chainstays, and heavy tubing all add up quickly. Eric On Thursday, July 20, 2023, exliontamer wrote: > An RB-1 is a relative

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

In my ~25 years of single speed and fixed gear experience, forward facing dropouts are better in every respect than track ends: - wheel removal is much easier (and moreso with fenders, and moreso again if you're running a derailer for some reason) - adjusting the wheel position doesn't affect the

Re: [RBW] 3-speeding Quickbeams and SimpleOnes

Does this work? https://handsomecycles.com/products/700c-silver-rear-wheel-sturmey-archer-s-rf3-3-speed-internal-handbuilt Eric On Wednesday, June 21, 2023, Arthur Mayfield wrote: > > I’ve seen the charts/catalogs listing 116-120mm OLD Sturmey Archer IGHs, > but haven’t found one IRL. Soma Fab

Re: [RBW] WTB: Roly Poly Tires

I thought the Ruffy Tuffys also had some kind of flat prevention anti-puncture strip or casing built into them. Eric On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 12:13 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > More rubber at the center track to reduce flatting, thereby a little > heavier. > > On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 6:06:28 PM

Re: [RBW] Roadini 1000 mile review

Hi John, I’m 6’3”, 180 pounds, and briefly had a 61cm Roadini. It has some weird tapering to the tubes, but I think it was basically double OS on that size. Maybe 28.6 tapering to 31.8 or something. It felt stiff and not particularly responsive to me. It’s not like an old vintage road bike with a

Re: [RBW] Betty Foy info request

The YG was a Betty with as manlier name, but the Cheviot was a completely different model… one of the first long chainstay Rivs. Eric On Wednesday, May 17, 2023, Pam Bikes wrote: > Betty's were made in different sizes in different years. And in the later > years some were Yves Gomez and some w

Re: [RBW] Re: Hobson Zingo adjustable lockring wrench for **$7.00**??

Agree with Garth. I bought one, and I'd say $7 is about the right price. On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 4:48 AM Garth wrote: > This reminds of Shawshank Redemption movie where Andy asks Red to get him > a rock hammer that sells for (at the time) . $7. > > When Red inquires as to how Andy is going to

Re: [RBW] Re: Double 1x

CUES has a 2x option. Eric who doesn't miss the front derailleur at all On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 8:22 AM ascpgh wrote: > Somewhere in the last two days I read something roughly this: "I tried to > ditch front derailleurs on my road bike but they just work so well." > Perhaps from one of the bike

Re: [RBW] FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

Yeah, it’s not 2021 anymore. The used bike market is pretty much collapsing. On Wednesday, April 26, 2023, Joe Bernard wrote: > They want every last dime they put in it after spending all that money and > not riding. Well good luck!* > > *For full pop I'd get a frame from Riv and build it myself

Re: [RBW] Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

This was just discussed in the Charlie H Gallop proto thread. Some people like those brakes, some people find them weak. I’m in the latter group. I wouldn’t commit to such an expensive frame that is limited to those brakes. My experience with long reach calipers is almost universally bad, especial

Re: [RBW] Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

In my experience, sidepulls are great as long as you only ride in the dry and don’t plan on any emergency stops. Eric Not a caliper fan On Tuesday, April 25, 2023, Johnny Alien wrote: > I have zero issues with the effectiveness of sidepulls. I used them for > years and years. I just think that

Re: [RBW] Lovely Blue Riv Custom

The external dyno wiring on such an expensive build looks... wrong. Eric On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 1:10 PM Ryan wrote: > Worth a look. The 2 Marks and Joe Bell have worked their usual magic. > > https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/joshs-rivendell-custom?mc_cid=d5e44cc458&mc_eid=0074b52ae1 > > > I

Re: [RBW] "You need 7 bikes" article

Best answer yet! On Thursday, March 30, 2023, Nick Shoemaker wrote: > Rivendell group, right? There are four correct responses to the 'right' > number of rings bikes: > > 1 > 3 > 7 > 9 > > So everyone was right. Well done! > > On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:45:16 AM UTC-4 Tom Palmer wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

Agree that three is a good target (road, mountain, utility), so why am I at seven? I feel a sale coming up. This topic always reminds me of the Peter Egan column asking how many motorcycles you need. He comes out to five, with much of the same rationale we use for bikes. I'm at zero there :( http

Re: [RBW] Hozan Bottom Bracket Tapping Tool

No experience with the taps, but in my experience I would pick a Hozan tool over a Park. Park tools just seem so-so to me. On Thursday, March 23, 2023, JohnS wrote: > Anyone have experience with the Hozan BB tapping tool? My '82 Specialized > Sequoia drive side treads have been cross threaded an

Re: [RBW] Pedal Question

I’ve found that real Shimano SPDs work better than the various copies. Wellgo , etc seem to have a clunkier entry and release. I started with Shimano, then spent a lot of time on Time ATACs, but now I’ve been back on SPDs for several years. Relative to the Times, SPDs have less float on paper, but

Re: [RBW] FS on Facebook - Atlantis 64cm (2016)

I thought the Altantises (?) in those bigger sizes only came in 700c? Eric On Sunday, February 5, 2023, Steve wrote: > Saw this on the Asheville, NC FB Marketplace. Appears mildly neglected > with meh components. 650B wheel set. Posted early today (2/5). Asking $2500 > > https://www.facebook.co

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

The Riv list imagining Jobst riding a steel frame with rim brakes? Shocking! Eric On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 7:37 PM Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think he'd ride a very similar bike today to the ones he rode for 50 > years. > >- Steel. He wasn't swayed by aluminum

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: New 57cm Roadini Frameset (Orange) + headset, 559 brakes, Nitto seatpost

Having owned a Roadini, I would go a step further and say it's basically an old school touring bike. Long, relaxed, kind of overbuilt. I've never ridden one, but I'd guess a Specialized Expedition or Miyata 1000 would feel pretty similar. By contrast, I've had a string of vintage Trek sport touring

Re: [RBW] Will's Roadini SS

This is funny. I mostly ride a fixed gear road bike, but this thread has me thinking about a SS FW road bike. I could use a tensioner for that kind of build, which would open up a lot of interesting frames to think about. I could finally flip over one of my flip/flop wheels and give it a try, I gu

Re: [RBW] Nivex on a Rivendell?

$200 derailleurs for the people! On Tuesday, December 13, 2022, Berkeleyan wrote: > To borrow a trite phrase, The Nivex shows that RH Cycles have jumped the > shark. The cost is well beyond any common rider's reach, requires > retrofitment brazing, paint, and only works with a custom shifter tha

Re: [RBW] Saddle height and BPH

I'm about your same size (36"/91cm PBH), but I run a 32"/81cm saddle height (bottom bracket center to top of my (of course) level saddle). I couldn't imagine pedaling with my saddle 6cm lower. When I played around with mid foot pedaling, I found I had to drop my saddle, but less than an inch. Eri

Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

00x42 front tire, >> and it's annoying. I'd gladly run a 2cm shorter stem with a 2cm longer >> front-center and the same HTA. >> >> BL in EC >> >> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 6:21:39 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote: >> >>> I saw the earlier i

Re: [RBW] How you choose 2 Rivendells?

I am currently Riv-less (between Rivs?) but I could cover most of my riding with a QB for road fixed gear riding and a Gus or Susie for mountain biking and the occasional overnighter. It would be hard to give up a dropper post for trail riding, though. Eric Who somehow has 7 bikes but surely does

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