The CHG is an expensive frame, but it’s appealing to me and ticks a lot of boxes for me. But I’m scared of the brakes. I keep hoping there is some magic trick I’m missing that makes these long reach brakes acceptable peformers (picture the YouTube clickbait tile, “just do this one trick to make your R559s as strong as V brakes!” but I don’t think such a trick exists.
I remember my Cheviot with these brakes, I had to set the pads extra low on the rim… the arms flexed so much, that was the only way to keep the pads out of the tire. In another case, I was riding my Raleigh Technium 650b conversion. I crossed a patch of wet grass immediately before a road crossing, then could barely get the bike stopped before a car went across the road. Spooky. I want to justify a CHG. But I don’t think it would be a keeper for me. I’m trying to reduce my bike flipping, especially the expensive losses. Eric On Sunday, December 29, 2024, Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > "I’m very leery of the lack of stopping power of long reach side pull > brakes in wet weather" > > I'm not sure what exactly this is supposed to mean. You have made > abundantly clear over the years how you feel incapable of getting the > braking you expect out of long reach side pulls. So are you leery because > you want a Charlie H Gallop but hate the brakes? Or are you leery about my > bike for me? Unlike you, I feel that long reach side pulls can provide > perfectly adequate braking. I feel that rims, brakes, brake pads, brake > levers, the mechanic holding the wrench and the rider, all contribute to > braking performance. I agree with you that all rim brakes have degraded > stopping when the rim-brake pad interface is wet. > > I only rode my CHGallop around the block this morning, but my block is a > steep incline and decline, and the bike has effortless one-finger braking, > which is how I planned it. Come on over to El Cerrito if you want to feel > it for yourself. > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Sunday, December 29, 2024 at 12:26:47 PM UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote: > >> Looks great. I love the idea of a dedicated flat bar road bike. But based >> on my previous experience, I’m very leery of the lack of stopping power of >> long reach side pull brakes in wet weather. I’ll look forward to a report >> from the field! >> >> Eric >> In rainy Plain City, OH >> >> >> On Sunday, December 29, 2024, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It was rainy this morning so I had time to finish up my Gallop build. >>> Here's the Flickr link to the album I've got going. I haven't added any >>> titles or descriptions to the photos yet. >>> >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720322843646/ >>> >>> I made a few concessions to gravity and weighed the build down a little >>> bit. >>> >>> 1. Rather than go with ultra minimalist grips, I'm running proper cushy >>> mountain bike grips from Wolf Tooth, that my son bought me for Christmas. >>> Instead of leaving the middle part of my Nitto Jitensha Bars bare, I >>> covered that area with Keirin grips that I bought at Jitensha Studio in >>> Berkeley. >>> 2. Rather than go with a lighter 8-speed 12-32 cassette, I am running a >>> 10-speed 11-32 XT cassette, in part to use a contemporary hollow pin SRAM >>> 1071 chain. I had to add a few links for the long stays. >>> >>> With those additions, the initial weigh in is 20.4 pounds on the big >>> scale, and 9277 grams on the gram-scale weighing every part one at a time. >>> So that's excellent agreement. Even though it's kind of a weight-weenie >>> build, it's got a LOT of features that would be considered Riv-approved. >>> Those include: >>> >>> Riv frame set and stock headset >>> Absolutely zero carbon >>> Silver 3 Crankset >>> MUSA White Industries BB like Riv sells (but with a Ti spindle) >>> Friction 1x10 drivetrain >>> The cheapest and lightest long reach brakes Riv sells with their heavily >>> endorsed E-bike brake pads (Yokozuna) >>> The cheapest and lightest straight bar brake levers (Tektro FL750) >>> Retrofriction thumbie shifter on the stem (Microshift) >>> MUSA Steel stem >>> Heat treated Nitto Handlebars >>> >>> The other fun last minute inclusion was Campagnolo brake cables and >>> housing, and Campagnolo shift housing. Every bike needs at least one >>> Campagnolo part. >>> >>> I think it's going to be an exceptionally fun flat-bar road bike for >>> me. I have swappable HED Belgium wheels elsewhere in my stable that will >>> allow me to butch it up if needed, and I've got the pieces in place for a >>> 2x drivetrain if I want to take it on a light tour, which may happen in the >>> Summer of '27. >>> >>> Anyway, enjoy! >>> >>> Bill Lindsay >>> El Cerrito, CA >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>> msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/54f71cc4-b1a1-467a-ba45- >>> 33ba598e23fen%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/54f71cc4-b1a1-467a-ba45-33ba598e23fen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/246ee58d-9dc4-4cc0-9189- > 43fa4626dffan%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/246ee58d-9dc4-4cc0-9189-43fa4626dffan%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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