[RBW] Re: Truss-frame Atlantis!

2018-04-26 Thread George Rosselle
Anybody else see a wee bit of Retrotec here? On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:24:20 PM UTC-4, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: > > Just sayin'… whooo-! ;-) > > > https://78.media.tumblr.com/62ae23b7bb4fbd8f15ada87868fc155b/tumblr_p7rjqyuo0M1qe3ngpo1_1280.jpg > > > =- Joe Bunik > Walnut Creek, CA

[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

2018-04-26 Thread Neil Doran
I know those trails well, and that is a grande ride. Super fun, even under biking, but then you gotta work. Plus the bummer pave at the end. I’m assuming you BARTed home? I have attained the holy grail of adulthood with my 9 mile RT commute, replete with alternative coffee and beer stops, and l

[RBW] Re: Truss-frame Atlantis!

2018-04-26 Thread Brett Callahan
I'm on the preorder for a 59. At first I was a little disappointed it wasn't a straight bar double top tube, but after seeing a couple of photos as opposed to the sketch that was posted, I can't wait. It looks great. On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 11:24:20 AM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: > >

[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

2018-04-26 Thread Evan E.
That's an impressive and inspiring commute, Bill. Love that second picture of the trail through the trees. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to r

[RBW] Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

2018-04-26 Thread Meade Anderson
Don’t forget to try a loop around Hains Point...low traffic, relatively quiet, and great views... Meade...a bit south of DC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, s

[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread Ray Varella
Here’s my take on the subject: I try to spend the majority of my discretionary dollars with small businesses, artisans, farmers and artisans. I do my banking with my local credit union. Community is critical and having a real person remember your name and thank you for your support is how we pr

[RBW] FS: Velocity Dyad Rims and Tires

2018-04-26 Thread Jonathan D.
Sent a PM. Hopefully it went through. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] FS: Velocity Dyad Rims and Tires

2018-04-26 Thread Mike OShea
For sale: Velocity Dyad Rims 700c in excellent condition. Front hub Shimano LX 670, 100mm spacing, rear hub Shimano LX 670 spacing 135. Hubs titanium gray color. Included Shimano 9 Speed cassette (11-32) Also included Schwalbe Smart Sam tires. Ridden less than 100 miles. Nice to have an extra

[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
On Wednesday, April 25, 2018, Michael Hechmer wrote: *At 73 all I need are replacement parts. * Yikes, yeah. I could use some replacement parts myself, and I'm only 58. Yes, I've had a case or two of the Out of Stock Blues. But, life goes on. And as Hugh says, anticipation--give it a try some

Re: [RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread hugh flynn
In an age of instant gratification fed by federated clearing houses of on-line retail excess, i think it’s perfectly fine wait for things from time to time. Sure, I love being able to get what I want when I want it - but that’s an unreasonable and unsustainable expectation for ALL things at ALL t

[RBW] Re: Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

2018-04-26 Thread Elisabeth Sherwood
Hi Rene, The Renaissance is only a few blocks from BicycleSpace, one of the shops in the city. Stop by when you arrive and pick up the Washington DC bicycle map, which will give you some good routes in the city and, more important, access to and from the off-street trails, of which there are qu

[RBW] Re: When requesting to contacted off list

2018-04-26 Thread Dave Small
Tim, Jim is correct. When I first registered for this forum I used a Yahoo email address, and got rejected each time---and like you, lost out on some opportunities. I switched my email address to a .mac address and that solved the problem. Dave -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread Grant Petersen
If at first you don't succeed, etc. It's an ongoing challenge, no doubt, but always a worthy one. On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:43 PM, John Hawrylak wrote: > Grant's theme of "duplication" was stated about 5 to 6 years ago, but I > did not notice a large reduction. > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ >

[RBW] Re: Truss-frame Atlantis!

2018-04-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
Yes, I knew you were messing around. I was just playing along. #wink# On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:56:06 PM UTC-7, Mattt wrote: > > I am just messing around Bill. It seems whatever Rivendell starts becomes > popular in the general market. Being sarcastic when implying that pretty > soon

[RBW] Re: Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

2018-04-26 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have heard somewhere, you can also punch a small hole in your tube, insert sealant then patch it. Haven't tried it yet... Clayton Dirtdance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiv

[RBW] Re: Truss-frame Atlantis!

2018-04-26 Thread Mattt
I am just messing around Bill. It seems whatever Rivendell starts becomes popular in the general market. Being sarcastic when implying that pretty soon all bike companies will be touting a truss frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread John Hawrylak
Grant's theme of "duplication" was stated about 5 to 6 years ago, but I did not notice a large reduction. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails f

Re: [RBW] Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

2018-04-26 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks for the guidance. First, the Hunq is a 58cm, so it's got 700c wheels. As does Homer. Next, I'll be working quite a lot and prefer my precious ride time to be for riding, not fixing flats. So with the information I've gotten, I'm going to go with sealant and just learn from my mistakes and

[RBW] Re: Truss-frame Atlantis!

2018-04-26 Thread ctifusion
Great to see one built up! I love it and can't wait until June. brynnar Indy On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:24:20 PM UTC-4, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: > > Just sayin'… whooo-! ;-) > > > https://78.media.tumblr.com/62ae23b7bb4fbd8f15ada87868fc155b/tumblr_p7rjqyuo0M1qe3ngpo1_1280.jpg > > > =-

Re: [RBW] Re: Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

2018-04-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
If you're equipped for it, riding the Mall / Tidal Basin area at night -- Monuments by Moonlight -- can be a lot of fun. On 04/26/2018 12:57 PM, EasyRider wrote: René, I'm local and work downtown. I'd suggest you ride the length of the national mall one morning (both sides), and around the Tid

[RBW] Re: Truss-frame Atlantis!

2018-04-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
I don't know if truss frames are the new "gravel bike", but 'good-looking' is timeless, and that new Atlantis is good looking! On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 1:20:30 PM UTC-7, Mattt wrote: > > ANT bike was doing truss frame bike for awhile. Are truss frames the new > “gravel bike.” > > https://

[RBW] Truss-frame Atlantis!

2018-04-26 Thread Mattt
ANT bike was doing truss frame bike for awhile. Are truss frames the new “gravel bike.” https://antbikemike.wordpress.com/truss-bike/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] Re: When requesting to contacted off list

2018-04-26 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks everyone! It's sure nice to have people smarter than me around (don't go getting big heads, it's a low bar...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Truss-frame Atlantis!

2018-04-26 Thread Christopher Murray
I was very skeptical but I have to say that I really really like it. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@goo

[RBW] Re: FS: 175mm? 173mm? I have no idea Rivendell Silver Crankset wide double off a clem smith jr l

2018-04-26 Thread Brett Callahan
They come in odd sizing--170-173-178-184. My Riv assembled Clem H in size 59 came with the 178mm cranks. On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 11:14:44 AM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote: > > Ill get specifics later when home but its the crank that came on my clem > smith. > $175 shipped > -- You received thi

Re: [RBW] Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

2018-04-26 Thread René Sterental
Thank you all! Sounds like a plan. René On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Howard Hatten wrote: > Hi Rene, > I stayed at the Renaissance for a couple days at the end of my Gap-C&O > tour. They had no problem with me taking my bike up to my room every day. > As far as the riding I had no problem

[RBW] Truss-frame Atlantis!

2018-04-26 Thread Joe Bunik
Just sayin'… whooo-! ;-) https://78.media.tumblr.com/62ae23b7bb4fbd8f15ada87868fc155b/tumblr_p7rjqyuo0M1qe3ngpo1_1280.jpg =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] WTB: 1 5mm Brass Ferrule

2018-04-26 Thread Leif Eckstrom
Hi Conway, I just ordered a bag from Rivendell this morning. Happy to give you one once it arrives. Might also have one tucked away in a bike part box if you need one sooner. Best, Leif Chicago -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" g

[RBW] Re: FS: Bags, Parts, Accessories (lotsa)

2018-04-26 Thread Minh
> > *Updated and removed items sold, FYI i’ll be out of town 5/2-5/10, so nothing will be shipped between those dates > Bike Parts for Sale > TLDR: (but make sure to read below on condtion of certain items!!) > Shipping not included. Photos: https://goo.gl/photos/9NfCPWYZ6BJEL13f6 > Bert

[RBW] FS: 175mm? 173mm? I have no idea Rivendell Silver Crankset wide double off a clem smith jr l

2018-04-26 Thread Belopsky
Ill get specifics later when home but its the crank that came on my clem smith. $175 shipped -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunc

[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread Eric
What's wrong with Amazon? I actually would like them to be profitable and growing like Amzn. I viewed another cycling forum that discussed all things Riv during the Hail Mary including business fundamentals such as overhead, inventory, overlap of frames, number of employees, expensive Bay Area

[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread phil k
Not at all Joe, I just bought one myself thanks to your post. On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 1:38:44 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Apologies if that seemed a little OT. The idea was to promote an in stock > product on a thread about stuff being out of stock. Awkwardly. -- You received thi

[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

2018-04-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
Thanks all. I feel good today, but my legs and shoulders are a bit sore from grinding up the steepies. I'm thinking about trying the same route next time with my proper mountain bike and comparing my segment times. There should be definite advantages having 29x2.3" tires and shocks on the ro

[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread Joe Bernard
Apologies if that seemed a little OT. The idea was to promote an in stock product on a thread about stuff being out of stock. Awkwardly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emai

[RBW] Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

2018-04-26 Thread Howard Hatten
Hi Rene, I stayed at the Renaissance for a couple days at the end of my Gap-C&O tour. They had no problem with me taking my bike up to my room every day. As far as the riding I had no problem around town. Most of the main streets have bike lanes. I enjoyed riding around the mall. Since your clos

[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread Paul Choi
Rivendell is not Amazon. We don't want them to be. Grant, please continue to do what you need to do. On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 5:01:09 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: > > OK, so I'm no longer a big bike spender, but I do own three Riv bikes and > feel some loyalty to the company. At 73

[RBW] Re: When requesting to contacted off list

2018-04-26 Thread sameness
ETA: Make sure you write down the current SMTP server address in case it doesn't work! Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:02:43 AM UTC-7, sameness wrote: > > Try changing the Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP) in your whichever email > application you're using to: > >

[RBW] Re: When requesting to contacted off list

2018-04-26 Thread sameness
Try changing the Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP) in your whichever email application you're using to: smtp.mail.yahoo.com You're welcome to send me a PM to test it out. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 10:45:53 PM UTC-7, Tim wrote: > > This is the message I get

[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread Pondero
I greatly appreciate Grant's feedback on this, and will say that I'm personally very comfortable with less items and choices in exchange for greater reliability of availability. I love the unique and specialty products, and I enjoy returning to the website to "see what they have now". Chris Jo

[RBW] Re: Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

2018-04-26 Thread EasyRider
René, I'm local and work downtown. I'd suggest you ride the length of the national mall one morning (both sides), and around the Tidal Basin and East Potomac Park another. An out and back trip to Chain Bridge might make a good third trip if you have a little more time and bring your bike. Head

[RBW] Re: WTB: IRD NeedL BlastR 1" Threaded HS

2018-04-26 Thread sameness
Looks like you can buy it straight from IRD . Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 5:46:18 AM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote: > > Rivs out. I wanted to use my Hail Mary $$$. Maybe someone here bought > one for a false s

Re: [RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread hugh flynn
It’s a bit of a catch 22 I would imagine. Inventory requires capital, and capital is generated by moving inventory. What's a small business to do? On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:03 AM 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Yeah, me too. > > I responded to their

[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
I’ll celebrate the back-a-bike bags’ radical and power simplicity and being so much more for being so much less in a different thread at a later date, but to piggyback on Joe’s comment — the bags are brilliant and unsurpassed in the cycling industry for hearty simplicity and doing the job singul

[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread Joe Bernard
I just bought a Banana Sax in olive and want to give a shoutout 'cause Oh Mercy is it pretty and useful and mysteriously way better than other banana bags. Like, you can see where it would be an improvement, but it's hard to explain to your I've-seen-a-dozen-bananas eyes why it's so much better.

[RBW] Re: Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

2018-04-26 Thread Tom Wyland
I don't do much cycling right in the city (I live in the VA suburbs), but the Mt. Vernon Trail is nice (along the river in the Virginia side). I think you'll be sharing it with lots of runners, etc, unless it's in the early AM. I'd also recommend riding the trails on the national mall and the

[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
Profligate inventory buying slims up our cushion of safety when an unexpected blast hits, and our usual monthly $30,000 to $40,000 inventory spending was cut back to $5,000 for the three months leading up to the recent near-fall (even here I seemed cheap at that). It still wasn't enough, but it

[RBW] Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

2018-04-26 Thread René Sterental
Hi all, I'm going to go to Washington DC for 5 days next week for a meeting, and was wondering if it's worth bringing my Bike Friday with me to get some nice early morning rides. I'll be staying at the Renaissance Hotel Downtown, and all rides would have to start/finish at the hotel, although I co

Re: [RBW] Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

2018-04-26 Thread Patrick Moore
I used to commute 30 rt west-east across town, with 7 miles uphill from the river to Juan Tabo, often extending one or both legs by 5 miles N/S along a nice bike path. Yes, it's easy to overdo it, and as I got older (I did this from ~ 1996 to 2008; 41 to 53) I slowed down considerably. Back in the

[RBW] Bay Area Stolen Wheel Alert

2018-04-26 Thread Chris Corral
Hey All, I recently had a pretty unique wheel stolen off my bike in San Francisco. It was a 26" 40 hole Velocity Cliffhanger to Velocity Tandem ATB Hub. A 26x1.75" Schwalbe Marathon (or Marathon Plus?) tire was mounted. I checked the East Bay flea markets last week, and while there were plent

Re: [RBW] Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

2018-04-26 Thread Patrick Moore
BTW: fixing goathead flats if you don't use sealant: you have to be sure to pick out all the broken-off thorn tips before you re-install the patched tube, otherwise you'll get another flat in very short order. Technique: inspect tread; if you see the little, pale "dot", fold the tread between your

[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

2018-04-26 Thread Chris Corral
Wow! Excellent route. Good work! On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 1:01:11 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > > Back at the very beginning of my Rivendell career, in 2009, I was pretty > much strictly a roadie. My Hillborne and the idea of "country bike" opened > up my world in many ways. One of

Re: [RBW] Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

2018-04-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Jonathan, I used this one: https://www.amazon.com/Big-Book-Endurance-Training-Racing/dp/1616080655/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1524757124&sr=1-1&keywords=phil+maffetone+books Near as I can tell, any of his books will have his approach, they just have a different target audience. Same content,

Re: [RBW] Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

2018-04-26 Thread Patrick Moore
I realized I contradict myself on frequency. Forget the numbers; they're more or less metaphorical -- metaphors for the more accurate qualitative statements like "a lot" and "fewer". Big Apple: flats rare. If you can tolerate 1 flat/week in a bad week, this is the tire for you. I speak of the BAs

Re: [RBW] Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

2018-04-26 Thread Patrick Moore
Tim -- one more remark after I actually read through your query. Adding sealant to tubes is easy, if you take it step by step, have all materials at hand, and pay attention to what you are doing. I always have to wipe up a few drops, but that is certainly worth the benefit. I've added sealant to m

Re: [RBW] Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

2018-04-26 Thread Patrick Moore
Tim: It all depends how many flats/week you can tolerate. I rode the following tires in ABQ, NM without getting more than 3-5 flats over 60-100 miles/week. I routinely went through a box and a half to 2 boxes of Remas per year. Listed in order of goathead resistance. Big Apple, 26 X 2.35 and 29 X

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

2018-04-26 Thread William R.
Oh man... I like that so much! I can't deal. My wife's going to kill me... Bill in Westchester, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owner

[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yeah, me too. I responded to their request to 'please buy something to save the company'. Everything (*I sorta wanted*) was out of stock. I check weekly, but some stuff has been out of stock forever. Bike packing has become huge. I would think that some Rivendell rackless bikepacking bags w

[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

2018-04-26 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Hey there Michael - I've had this occur for a couple of things recently, as RBW builds inventory back up. However, in both cases, I just used the "Email me when this is available" option on the site and curiously, both items popped up as available within a couple days. For me, it's worth wai

[RBW] Re: When requesting to contacted off list

2018-04-26 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Hey there Tim - Hopefully this will help other members as well. You have full posting permissions as far as this group is concerned. There's no other switch I can throw to make this work better. The issue is your yahoo email address. As noted in the error message you are seeing, there's e

[RBW] Re: When requesting to contacted off list

2018-04-26 Thread Bob K.
Tim, you may need to set up a Google account for it to work right. I'm not certain on this, though. Bob K. in Baltimore On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 1:45:53 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote: > > This is the message I get whenever I reply privately to author in desktop. > > > [image: Error Icon] > Message b

[RBW] Re: Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

2018-04-26 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
Goatheads?Like riding on a carpet of thumb tacks. Clayton DirtDance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@goo

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

2018-04-26 Thread Joe Bernard
There's a new pic on the Blug of the swoopytube Atlantis. It kinda looks like an ANT Truss Bike with a sloping toptube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [RBW] Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

2018-04-26 Thread Jonathan D.
Great job Bill. I feel good about my 5 mile commute. Patrick - What book from Phil should I start with? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw

Re: [RBW] Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

2018-04-26 Thread Tim Gavin
Tim- You didn't specify which size wheels your Homer wears. The smaller frames are 650b. For a tire that is a little burlier than Compass but still pretty fast-rolling, I recommend the Panaracer Gravel King. It's available in 650 and 700, in various width. It comes with a file tread, or with a

[RBW] WTB: IRD NeedL BlastR 1" Threaded HS

2018-04-26 Thread Conway Bennett
Rivs out. I wanted to use my Hail Mary $$$. Maybe someone here bought one for a false start project? Thanks in advance. Fair winds, Captain Conway www.ChicaGoByBoat.com 833.312.BOAT @svnightswimming -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners B

[RBW] Which tire (and can I get by without sealant?) for AZ road/dirt

2018-04-26 Thread Kainalu V.
Sealant rules everwhere. You're putting sealant in a deflated tube, yes? And removing the valve core when you do? I've been having good luck with the clogging problem by giving the valves a shot of boeshield before I replace them. I ride in NYC everyday which, while not being filled with goathea