[RBW] Re: Brass Bells

2017-01-15 Thread Bill in Roswell GA
I would think any type of modern auto paint protector sealant such as made by 3M, Meguiars, Mothers, Turtlewax, Liquid Glass, etc., would work. And you can use it on your bike frame as well as the car. There are boat versions marketed but it's really all the same stuff. Such sealants typically

[RBW] Easiest way to transport Saluki on Southwest

2017-01-15 Thread Justin August
In March my wife has a CME in LA. I'm going to fly down and meet her. I'd love to bring my Saluki with me. No fenders, front rack + basket, rear Bagman (may omit and buy an Ehrlen while down there), Paul center pulls, drop bars. What's the easiest way? I'm willing to do things to "rinko-Ize" it

[RBW] FS: MTN and Road shoes, windstopper tights.

2017-01-15 Thread lum gim fong
see here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/HTB281 *Tights:* are 40+ shipping. Aerotech Thermal Windstopper Tights Large. Black. Articulated knee. No pad. Elastic waist with tie string. Bought new from Aerotech. No shop logo. 86% Polyester/14% Spandex Reflective bits. Zippered at bottom of l

[RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Kai, it's good to know that combination works. I just stripped a mini velo of its Shimano 9-speed bar-ends-on-VO-thumbies to transfer to my Appaloosa. I wasn't happy with the SunRace 9-speed thumbies I was using, so now I think I'll put the mini back together with SunRace mounts and Silver shift

[RBW] FS: Park Tool TW2 Torque Wrench - new!

2017-01-15 Thread lum gim fong
Never used. New in box. Sparkling super new clean and ready to torque your Riv! 40$ +shipping Pics here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/AzpS3e pm if interested -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe fr

[RBW] Re: Hunq-ish Romanceur build with Riv Bullmoose bars

2017-01-15 Thread adam leibow
why not get an Evasion or better yet, wait for the Shred Eagle from Crust? Romanceur kinda works as a MTB but I can't see feeling really confident on it considering the geometry, high top tube, and overall design philosophy. I think the Rom is happiest as a mixed terrain long distance crusher /

Re: [RBW] ATTENTION NY RIV'S

2017-01-15 Thread Kai Vierstra
Huzzah! Tuesdays are rough, looking forward to Wednesday -Kai Vierstra Bucktown NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubs

[RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Kai Vierstra
I have Riv silver down tube shifters mounted on my Clem's standard issue shifter mounts. I think they're great! Mostly for the fact that the mount rotates, but they seem to hold well enough. And since they're already on your bike it would be an infinitely cheaper option than Paul's or the IRD mo

[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne 62cm Black and Cream

2017-01-15 Thread scott minor
Hi Dave, My PBH is 94, inseam is 35"ish and 62 sam is a good fit. I think I'm right in the middle of recommended PBH range for it.--Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivi

Re: [RBW] Hunq-ish Romanceur build with Riv Bullmoose bars

2017-01-15 Thread Christopher Cote
No logical reason why. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to r

Re: [RBW] Hunq-ish Romanceur build with Riv Bullmoose bars

2017-01-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/15/2017 09:47 PM, Christopher Cote wrote: Those frames look awesome, but I'm stuck on 700c/29 wheels. I'd go with: Is it worth asking why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop r

[RBW] Hunq-ish Romanceur build with Riv Bullmoose bars

2017-01-15 Thread Christopher Cote
Those frames look awesome, but I'm stuck on 700c/29 wheels. I'd go with: Shimano Deore hubs Surly rabbit hole rims Avid BB7 brakes and levers Microshift thumbies Shimano XT shadow plus rear derailleur Parts bin front der Wide range 10spd cassette Albatross/bullmoose/Osprey/etc swoopy bars -- Yo

[RBW] NY RIVS

2017-01-15 Thread alan lavine
Beer hall meeting changed to Wed. 1/18. Same place/time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To p

Re: [RBW] ATTENTION NY RIV'S

2017-01-15 Thread Alan Lavine
Wed it is! See you there. Alan > On Jan 15, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Michael Morrissey > wrote: > > I could do wed! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.goo

[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

2017-01-15 Thread dougP
Now that took some head scratching! As promised, some of the clues were a bit fuzzy. As often happens whenever I think I've done well, I've probably made some silly blunders. But hey, made me dig out some ancient sources & re-read some interesting articles from the good old days of paper. Lo

[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne 62cm Black and Cream

2017-01-15 Thread DaveS
Good evening Scott, interested in the Sam. Curious what your inseam/PBH is? I currently am riding a 60 Bombadil and am a little worried that this may be too big. Thanks! On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 9:56:15 PM UTC-5, scott minor wrote: > > price drop to 875 for group members. Also now li

[RBW] Re: Off topic question: portable cd players

2017-01-15 Thread George Schick
A brief Web-scan indicates that Sony DiscMan's are still available. I've had one of these for many years now and it's never failed to perform well - better, in fact, than the big old unit in my hi-fi cabinet for playing partially damaged discs. Quite a few out there on FleaBay, looks like, too

[RBW] Re: FS: Hub area racks & bags (tan)

2017-01-15 Thread Sky Coulter
Jay, I know this thread has been dormant for forever, but did you ever sell 'em? Thanks, Sky in new west On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 7:40:28 PM UTC-7, Jay Lonner wrote: > > Pictures per request. > > On Monday, September 5, 2016 at 6:25:58 AM UTC-7, Ed Felker wrote: >> >> Jay, do you have p

Re: [RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Sky Coulter
Ya, I know. A little embarrassing. But...well worth embarrassment for an easy solution. Thanks again to everyone for the help and advice. Sky in new west On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 4:52:44 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Or you can tighten the shifter. I didn't think of that! ;-) -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Or you can tighten the shifter. I didn't think of that! ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. T

Re: [RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Patrick Moore
I'm glad the problem and the solution is so simple. I've used so many shifters with attaching screws that gradually loosen; the old Nuovo Record dt shifters were notorious for doing this. Blue Loctite is a wonderful all purpose fix, along with vise grips, duct tape, and big hammers. FWIW, with my

[RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Sky Coulter
Patrick, Thanks a bunch. I tightened the shifter mechanism (a little on the stiff side now for shifting) and voila indeed! Problem appears to have disappeared. Which is absolutely fantastic news. I'll see if it holds up, but from the little test ride I just did - no more ghost shifting. I'm

[RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Ah yes, the infamous cheapie thumbies. I have a pair that have seen several bikes, and they're almost comically good at what they do for how cheap they are. I definitely prefer them over the ones I struggled with on the Clem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl

Re: [RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Christopher Murray
Any smaller rider would give you a pretty good idea if weight is the issue. Good luck! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunc

Re: [RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Sky Coulter
Nice suggestion Chris! Unfortunately, the only 100lber I know who might be able to is a 12 year old girl, and I worry she's a bit too small to manage the bike. Sky in New west. On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 3:42:53 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote: > > Any chance you could find a 100lb test

[RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Sky Coulter
Thanks Joe, that's a super generous offer and I appreciate it. I think I already have a pair of cheaper thumbies in a parts box from velo-orange: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/shifting-freewheels-cassettes/shifters/falcon-friction-thumb-shifters.html But in truth, if I repla

[RBW] Re: Off topic question: portable cd players

2017-01-15 Thread Anton Tutter
CD? What's a CD? Anton On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 5:13:58 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I want a cheap and simple and very small device to plug into my Harman > Kardon amplifier/speakers to play Bach and Grateful Dead, but not at the > same time. I need it to do nothing except that it

Re: [RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Sky Coulter
Thanks Patrick, I'll give that a go. Sky in new west On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 3:29:52 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Sky: if the slipping occurs only in the direction that the rear derailleur > spring pulls, that is, toward smaller cogs (= higher gear), that indicates > that the shi

[RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Well phooey, I was hoping that would work. The problem with the shifters is they were designed for IGH hubs, where whatever ratchet effect in the shifter was overcome by the solid clicks being in the hub. Without the hub involved, the shifters - I've used them on a Clem demo I rode - tend to wan

Re: [RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Christopher Murray
Any chance you could find a 100lb test pilot? Then you'd know if weight/ flex was the issue. Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email t

Re: [RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Patrick Moore
Sky: if the slipping occurs only in the direction that the rear derailleur spring pulls, that is, toward smaller cogs (= higher gear), that indicates that the shift lever is not tight enough. Remove the screw holding the shift lever to the body, apply blue Loctite, re-install to the proper torque,

[RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Sky Coulter
Thanks for your help Joe. t's an 8 speed cassette. In the 5th position, when pedalling hard, it shifts to 4th. Unfortunately the pic I took isn't very helpful and shows it in the 4th position. It doesn't matter how much I try to offset the derailer medially, it'll either start trying to shift

Re: [RBW] ATTENTION NY RIV'S

2017-01-15 Thread Michael Morrissey
I could do wed! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owner

[RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Ok, let's try this. Shift into the middle of the cassette, which would be 5th from biggest on a 9-speed. Get it into whatever click seems to correspond with being able to pedal that gear normally. Now go back to the derailer and see where the pulleys are lined up. Are they sitting directly under

[RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Sky Coulter
So. Took it out, tried adjusting the barrel on the derailer - no joy. I did discover that t is only shifting into the smaller gear though, when it slips. Maybe it is the shifters. I was hoping to avoid buying new ones, but... Sky in new west On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 1:59:15 PM UTC-8, S

Re: [RBW] ATTENTION NY RIV'S

2017-01-15 Thread Brad Paris
Yes! Wednesday works for me! Brad On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 3:07 PM Alan Lavine wrote: > I can do Wed evening…Brad? > > > On Jan 15, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Michael Morrissey < > michaelgmorris...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I'd love to! But, I can't make Tuesday! Another time? > > > > -- > > You receiv

[RBW] Brass Bells

2017-01-15 Thread George Schick
During the frozen Winter months in this part of the country I like to clean and maintain my bikes, making any upgrades or replacements as necessary. One thing I always run into is a large patch of reddish-brown rust, oxidization, or whatever you want to call whatever it is that happens to bras

[RBW] Off topic question: portable cd players

2017-01-15 Thread Patrick Moore
I want a cheap and simple and very small device to plug into my Harman Kardon amplifier/speakers to play Bach and Grateful Dead, but not at the same time. I need it to do nothing except that it play standard music CDs reliably while sitting on top of my cabinet next to the speakers; I don't need ba

[RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Garth
The shifters. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners

[RBW] Re: ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Sky Coulter
I think it's in both directions. Hard to tell because it only happens underload and discombobulates me everytime it happens. Thanks for the advice, I'll try the adjustment you suggest - certainly easier and cheaper than replacing bits. Thanks Joe. Sky in new west On Sunday, January 15, 2017

[RBW] ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Is it shifting both directions under load, or only one way? Those weird index-not-really-index shifters may have the derailer pulleys located just off center of the cogs, which causes the ghost shift under load. The trick in that case would be to use that adjuster thingy on the derailer to loo

[RBW] ghost shifting and the clementine

2017-01-15 Thread Sky Coulter
Hey, hoping for some helpful advice, thought I'd throw it out to the group. A while back I bought the demo 59cm clementine from rivendell: https://www.flickr.com/photos/140959259@N03/31954788560/in/dateposted-public/ Issue: when I stand and peddle the bike shifts gears on the rear cassette.

Re: [RBW] Question about stand over and head tube

2017-01-15 Thread iamkeith
If i understand your question correctly: 1) bottom bracket height matters a lot. For a given (& workable) standover height, the saddle can come down closer to the top tube with a corresponding drop in bottom bracket height, which then brings saddle and handlebar heights closer to equal - befor

Re: [RBW] Question about stand over and head tube

2017-01-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Lee, if you're getting a lot of seatpost and stem showing, but little standover clearance, you're probably on a frame with a high bottom bracket and 700C wheels. For an extreme example of this you can search stuff about the Pashley Guv'nor. That bike is based on an ancient path racer design with

[RBW] FS: 64cm Quickbeam F/F/ HS/BB/ wheels

2017-01-15 Thread Michael Williams
Hey group, up for sale is an 64cm Orange Quickbeam. Includes headset/ bottom bracket/ wheels. I have some stems/ seatpost I could throw on. Additionally, I have a White Industries DOS freewheel (17/19). I bought it used, and the decals had been removed and I just left it like that. You

Re: [RBW] Question about stand over and head tube

2017-01-15 Thread Lee Legrand
I am asking how frame builders are designing bicycle that look the way they do, without sloping top tubes. My mind says it is not possible without a high top tube, yet bicycle frame builders are designing frames that look like the Herse you have in this email. Part of the reason I am thinking lik

[RBW] Re: What is the most interesting thing in you parts bin?

2017-01-15 Thread Joe Bernard
The Rosco Bubbe frames have horizontal dropouts. Put that coaster on one! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@google

[RBW] Re: What is the most interesting thing in you parts bin?

2017-01-15 Thread Jim M.
I've got this sitting around waiting for Riv to do a coaster brake frame:

Re: [RBW] ATTENTION NY RIV'S

2017-01-15 Thread Alan Lavine
I can do Wed evening…Brad? > On Jan 15, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Michael Morrissey > wrote: > > I'd love to! But, I can't make Tuesday! Another time? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Question about stand over and head tube

2017-01-15 Thread Garth
It's just a matter of choice of the builder, the seller, and the buyer . But why do we choose what we choose ? Pick a story, any story after all . . . it's just a story :) On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 11:33:48 AM UTC-5, Lee Legrand wrote: > > This is a question towards people who ar

[RBW] Re: FS: 56 cm Sam Hillborne

2017-01-15 Thread Tom Goodmann
On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote: > > A 56 Sam in excellent condition, ridden without beausage: really, not a > mark on it. Standard Riv build with Albatross bars, Silver bar-end > shifters, Misha's cork grips. $1500 plus shipping for complete bike, sold > w

[RBW] Re: FS: 56 cm Sam Hillborne

2017-01-15 Thread Tom Goodmann
BTW, double TT, as evident in the photos, and a size no longer offered for this model. On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-5, Thom Goodmann wrote: > > A 56 Sam in excellent condition, ridden without beausage: really, not a > mark on it. Standard Riv build with Albatross bars, Silver b

[RBW] FS: 56 cm Sam Hillborne

2017-01-15 Thread Thom Goodmann
A 56 Sam in excellent condition, ridden without beausage: really, not a mark on it. Standard Riv build with Albatross bars, Silver bar-end shifters, Misha's cork grips. $1500 plus shipping for complete bike, sold with fenders (never mounted), sans the Brooks and the MKS pedals; $800 for f/f/hs

[RBW] Question about stand over and head tube

2017-01-15 Thread Joe Bernard
My 51cm Appaloosa has 6 degrees of rise to the headtube, then the headtube juts up an inch over that, plus the steerer adds another inch. So I get a couple inches of standover in front of the saddle, but don't need a tall stem because so much height has been added to the frame up front. The fr

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-15 Thread John Bokman
Curious if you've tried the VO Zeste Cantis on another bike? They look like well designed brakes. On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 9:03:13 PM UTC-8, Ash A wrote: > > Wish I had known about these before I got VO Zeste Cantis for the > Appaloosa I'm going to build soon. Given the tire clearance (

[RBW] Question about stand over and head tube

2017-01-15 Thread Lee Legrand
This is a question towards people who are involved in frame design but anyone can respond. I have been thinking about this but it has been more academic than of practical use. I have looked at bicycles on Flickr of MAP, Rene Herse, Grand Bois, Rivendell, Mariposa and others but I have always tho

[RBW] ATTENTION NY RIV'S

2017-01-15 Thread Michael Morrissey
I'd love to! But, I can't make Tuesday! Another time? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

[RBW] Re: FS: Joe App 55cm Butternut New In Box!

2017-01-15 Thread Surlyprof
Nash, If you were interested in a 55 Appaloosa in butternut, this one has been on the sf bay area CL for a while: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/5951595069.html No connection to me (just a consistent temptation). John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G

[RBW] Hunq-ish Romanceur build with Riv Bullmoose bars

2017-01-15 Thread Zach Duval
This will be my first time using disc brakes. Have you used the TRPs before? I have been leaning toward Klampers, as they'very got reviews for solid stopping power and the materials seem better for longevity. What's the fundamental difference between centerlock and 6 bolt? -- You received this

[RBW] FS: Sackville SlickerSack for Nitto Platrack - Excellent (barely used) Condition

2017-01-15 Thread Jared Volpe
I'd love to move this bag. Dropping price to 150. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-15 Thread BenG
I like cantis. They look interesting, and it's fun using something that I can see operate. XT cantis on my MB-1 perform fine on steep and fast descents at Brown County State Park here in Indiana. Putting a Fred Flintstone foot down could suffice for all my other rides, in comparison. -- You re

[RBW] WTB/T -For Large Rosco Mixte

2017-01-15 Thread Kai Vierstra
And once Ryan gets his I'd like to be next in line. I've got a 68 Quickbeam, a 65 Clem, and any nonvital organ you might need/want. -Kai Vierstra Brooklyn NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [RBW] A nice morning for a ride

2017-01-15 Thread Daniel Betancourt
Nice! Looks like you had a fun time. I like the color of that bike. What is entailed with the brevet series ride(s)? How far do you go and is it with a large group or do you ride solo or with a small group of friends? I haven't gone on any group rides yet and just ride solo or with the wife. I

Re: [RBW] A nice morning for a ride

2017-01-15 Thread Fullylugged
It was lovely in central AL too. After a church men's group breakfast, I helped a dad render his big box store purchased Huffy rideable for the birthday boy son. Then met friends for some rural hilly miles. With a nice brevet series on tap this year, the old legs need some training! Here's my R

Re: [RBW] A nice morning for a ride

2017-01-15 Thread Daniel Betancourt
Thanks. I've also got to thank my Riv enabler friend Les who turned me on to these style bikes to begin with. On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 11:41:47 PM UTC-5, Ash A wrote: > > Looks like a nice place and nice weather down there Daniel ! > > Your Sam setup looks fantastic. > > My sentiments