Re: [RBW] Re: Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

2017-01-01 Thread Joe Bernard
But the Appaloosa is less stout and also has a long wheelbase. I don't think it twists much. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

2017-01-01 Thread masmojo
Yes, Butting, I did not use the term, just in case someone did not know what it meant. Yes. A properly constructed tig frame can be VERY light, I just fini5building the Kogswell PR frame I've had floating around for years and the whole bike is amazingly light! But, it's not the beast that a Clem

Re: [RBW] Will the Walnut Creek shop be open Monday, 1/2/17?

2017-01-01 Thread Rod Holland
Thanks! rod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-b

[RBW] Re: NEW BIKE DAY!

2017-01-01 Thread Bill in Roswell GA
One of the unfortunate aspects of surgery is that pain feedback tells you how much is too much! But of course, we continue to find the edge of what we love until it hurts too much! Didn't see a build list (not that I see that well), but wondered what pedals those are? Cheers and Happiest of N

[RBW] Will the Walnut Creek shop be open Monday, 1/2/17?

2017-01-01 Thread Rod Holland
Turns out I'll be in the neighborhood. If it's open, I'll drop in. If it's closed, I'll wish folks a happy new year via this medium. Couldn't quite tell from the web page. rod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread John Hawrylak
Ted I am sorry, By 52-14 I meant a 52T large ring and 14T smallest cog. This gives a 98 to 100GI value for 27x1" to 27x1-1/4" (common in the 70's) and also for 700x25 to 700x32. the 2GI difference is insignificant. The 100GI top value is the same as Schwinn explained in the their 70's catalo

Re: [RBW] Re: Front Low-rider Panniers on Rambouillet?

2017-01-01 Thread Bill in Roswell GA
Patrick, just curious as to why you would think the Ram would handle better (with or without a load?) than the Monstercross? I ask because I was considering a Monstercross at one point for week-long adventure touring. You've had a considerable stable of bikes over the years making a wonderful b

[RBW] Best of 2016

2017-01-01 Thread Brian Hanson
It feels like the time of year to post your "best of 2016" - are ya with me?? OK - I'll start it off with the obligatory blog post (dwindling these days): https://stonehog.com/2016/12/31/2016-redux And Flickr album: https://flic.kr/s/aHskRBkZQ9 Brian Hanson Seattle, WA Bike Blog

[RBW] WTB: 700c wheelset 130mm and sugino double crank

2017-01-01 Thread bo richardson
i have a full build from n rb2 including wheels if you want it. good quality good shape not really excellent quality excellent shape price could be excellent though. i think the sugino crank is set up currently as a triple -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

[RBW] Re: Front Low-rider Panniers on Rambouillet?

2017-01-01 Thread Dick Denning
Bill: Oops. You're right of course. I should've read what I wrote more closely. And you're also right in that the Rawland Nordavinden seemed to handle a loaded handlebar bag just fine. It was a full camping load that seemed to tax it. A great bike otherwise. Dick On Sunday, Januar

[RBW] Re: 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread ted
John, I don't think there were ever any "... 52-14 days of 130BCD cranks". A nerdy quibble I know, but please bear with me ... I believe the venerable 52-14 high gear dates from early 144 bcd crank days when Campi ruled and the Japanese copied Campi, when a common racing chainring combination w

[RBW] Clementine Rolls Into Another Year

2017-01-01 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
This Friday, parked for a bit, and when I came out this weird granular snow was on my Sackvilles. Coming back across the Hudson, everything was clear again. I rode the bike to a New Year's dinner party in 2016, and rode home in 2017. A good way to end and begin! (Photos always seem to end up i

[RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed

2017-01-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
Excellent idea, Ian! The upside down "nest" the ball gets snugged into in stealth mode is plastic, the ball mettle. I wonder if cold temps cause different shrinkage for the two materials, making the ball too snug in the nest. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 2:13:36 PM UTC-7

[RBW] Re: 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread John Hawrylak
Jay I would get a crank to give 100GI with existing 11-30 for Large ring/small cog or change the cassette to get 100GI for large ring/small cog, for example Current Crank & Existing Cassette, 46-11 = 113GI, pretty high for all but pros Current Crank & New Cassette, 46-12 = 103GI, st

[RBW] Re: Extreme long johns...

2017-01-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
Merino wool fishnet long john update: First longer coldish weather ride with the merino wool fishnet top (I don't use the bottoms until around zero). 22˚F starting out, dropping to 10˚F on top with 30mph winds, then warming up to 32˚ F dropping back to home. I continue to be amazed by this syst

[RBW] Re: Extreme long johns...

2017-01-01 Thread Ron Mc
my hands-down favorite cold weather merino wool base layer is Minus33. Midweight. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubsc

[RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed

2017-01-01 Thread Ian A
Have you tried filling it with whisky? That'll put hairs on its chest. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googleg

[RBW] Hogmanay Ride to Rampart

2017-01-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
Happy New Year! http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/hogmanay-ride-to-rampart-reservoir With abandon, Patrick www.OurHolyConception.org www.MindYourHeadCoop.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and s

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

2017-01-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/01/2017 03:07 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: Not really. My old Lemond Zurich was 853 Reynolds , specifically designed to be tigged. All the aluminum Canondales are tigged. That was even a selling point at one time--no heav

[RBW] Re: Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

2017-01-01 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Not really. My old Lemond Zurich was 853 Reynolds , specifically designed to be tigged. All the aluminum Canondales are tigged. That was even a selling point at one time--no heavy lugs! That said, living in a third-floor walk-up and owning a Clement

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar build report

2017-01-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
Bangin' build! With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-7, Bob B wrote: > > Hi all, > > I built up a 58cm Hunq myself this June, in a rush so that I could take it > on a 300-mile tour (DC > Pittsburgh via C&O/GAP), but finally, as of today, > got it how I REALLY wa

[RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed

2017-01-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
Interesting you mention that one, Les. I saw it referenced in the MUP thread and bought it. Bizarrely, stealth mode works TOO well. Stealth mode works a marvel. No reverberation. However, the poor thing goes pre-adolescent boy and has to drop its ball ringer when I shift it to ring mode. But it

[RBW] FS: barend shifters, sackville trunksack, ditto mini front rack, road brake levers

2017-01-01 Thread Kim Niedermaier
Hey everyone, Happy New Year! I have some parts for sale that are lightly used. $100 - Sackville TrunkSack Small - Olive $115 - Nitto Mini-Front Rack 32F $30 - Shimano Tiagra Road Brake Levers $55 - Shimano 8sp Barend Shifters Photos can be found here: http://imgur.com/a/iZLZt Shipping to the c

[RBW] Re: 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread ted
"For me, a 50/34 left me riding cross-chained too often." If I had a 50/34 crank I think I would immediately swap the 34 for a 36. When I went from 53/42 to 53/39 it took a while to get used to the bigger jump with the with the 14 vs 11 tooth difference between rings. I doubt I could learn to l

[RBW] Re: 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I lived in CT for three years and rode my Homer all over the Northeast, doing 2 full brevet series and many thousand miles. My gearing is 52-42-30 with 12-30 cassette. I found the gearing to be fine for the hilly CT terrain and mountainous areas of VT,NH and MA. I used my 52x12 gear often on dow

[RBW] Re: 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
On Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 9:31:18 AM UTC-8, lum gim fong wrote: > > If you're worried about club rides, they say that pedaling over 22 mph > is futile. Because of wind resistance. Better to tuck and coast down hill. > I believe your numbers are off. The cutoff point is easily twice that. No

[RBW] Re: 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread lum gim fong
Yes they could very well be wrong. That info was just for going downhill. I didn't explain Goodnuf. Sounds like only 4 issues here: 1. Can he keep up on club ride with whatever crankset he's going to use? 2. If he can't keep up he's going to have to train to keep up. Is he willing to tra

[RBW] Re: 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread ted
"If you're worried about club rides, they say that pedaling over 22 mph is futile. Because of wind resistance. Better to tuck and coast down hill." Form my personal experience with racing oriented club rides "they" are wrong, at least in the context of fast club riding. Groups like that routin

[RBW] Re: 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread lum gim fong
If you can't push a 50-36 and keep up in club rides you're going to have to train in order to do it. If you're not the kind of person to train then: XD2 triple you can go anywhere. 26-36-46 13-30 in back or 13-32 ormore teeth. If you're worried about club rides, they say that pedaling over 2

[RBW] Re: Front Low-rider Panniers on Rambouillet?

2017-01-01 Thread Bill M.
Nordavinden has much LESS trail due to the 70 mm fork offset, down around 31 mm. It's not designed to carry much of a load, just a front rando-style bag. Bill Stockton, CA On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-8, Dick Denning wrote: > > Kieran: > > I went on a 5 day fully loaded to

[RBW] Re: 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread Bill M.
What about the 50/34 does not suit your needs? For me, a 50/34 left me riding cross-chained too often. I have since used 46/30, 44/28 and 42/26 combinations that let me run on the big ring in the middle of the cassette most of the time, with the small ring as a bail out when I have to climb so

[RBW] Re: Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

2017-01-01 Thread Joe Bernard
I don't agree with the massive difference in ride between the two models. Clem is obviously a stouter build than Appaloosa, but they're both long-stay steel frames with a design (by the same designer) weighted towards commuter/tourer and trail-riding duty. Also, a good bit of the price differe

[RBW] Re: 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread ted
It may help to think about how what you have that matches what you are considering feels. A 46x11 high gear will be the same as the 50x12 that you probably currently have as a 2nd highest gear. Is that high enough for you? A 30x30 low gear would, of course, be one to one. Do you have a one to o

[RBW] 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread Joe Bernard
I don't think the gearing overlap with other bikes is an issue. You're likely to ride the same roads on the custom as the AHH; but on a lighter, unloaded bike; so the difference will be in the frame/tires/load. I long ago lost any romance for "road bike gearing" which made the hills around here

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar build report

2017-01-01 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
those LEVERS! good God they're nice On Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 10:05:38 AM UTC-5, masmojo wrote: > > Yes, I don't think I've seen those brake levers before, I like'em! > Funny, I was just the opposite; removed Boscos for Alba's. To me it > depends on if you like a bolt upright position or not

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar build report

2017-01-01 Thread masmojo
Yes, I don't think I've seen those brake levers before, I like'em! Funny, I was just the opposite; removed Boscos for Alba's. To me it depends on if you like a bolt upright position or not. I think the Albas are a half shade more aggressive. -- You received this message because you are subscr

Re: [RBW] 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread Patrick Moore
If you are asking if a 46/30 will give you sufficient range or close enough gaps, that's something only you can decided. What do you find wrong with the gearing you have? At any rate, it's hard to see how you'll be undergeared at about 113 gear inches. OTOH, you might be able to adjust your casset

[RBW] Re: Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

2017-01-01 Thread masmojo
Well, you're getting so many different opinions here I could certainly understand a little uncertainty!LOL The opinions that the Clem won't ride much heavier then the Appa. Or that it will ride better then the Appa. Are a little silly. The Appa. Has a lugged frame, with a lighter gauge tubing,

[RBW] Re: 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread Garth
Favorable by some(like those who write about it), far from all, like those all who don't bother writing about it since their setup works just fine and give it no thought, whatever that happens to be :) Statistics and votes and counts could never account for the whole story . Worth it ? Me

[RBW] 46-30 crank on an unloaded road bike

2017-01-01 Thread Call Me Jay
It looks like 46-30 cranks are a favorable of RBW owners (I've reviewed the group archive). I'm interested in getting the insight of folks that are using them in moderately hilly terrain on an unloaded road bike. I live in northern Connecticut and occasionally do mixed surface rides but bike i

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar build report

2017-01-01 Thread Bob B
Yeah, I wanted to love the Albas, but, I got used to the Boscos I have on another bike, and I find that my riding position is most natural with them. The tires in the pics are just 55mm Schwalbe Big Bens. I don't think they're much different than Big Ones. Can you get fenders on with them? I al

[RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed

2017-01-01 Thread Les Lammers
This looks interesting: http://www.mtbbell.com/ On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 11:38:22 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Bells are designed to reverberate. They take the vibration of a ride, even > when not intended to be rung, and “hum.” Anyone have suggestions for the > most silent, ste