Kellie, ask for the birthday price. Don't be afraid. You wont hurt his
(Larry's) feelings with the lowball offer. Iirc he offered me this bike(or a 54
he had but looks like same pics) for my birthyear price of 1968. I asked about
another bike once and he admitted he was asking for too much and c
Load placement seems to be a major factor in whether a bike shimmies or
not, and your experience with moving your position slightly is
interesting. I noticed I could induce shimmy at a specific speed coasting
downhill while sitting bolt upright, and it would go away as soon as I
leaned slightl
It's a basic parts build, too: 9-speed LX derailers and RapidFire shifters on a
flat bar, generic Kalloy-looking post, Sugino cranks. That bike is way
overpriced, especially without the beautiful stock Atlantis color.
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The Atlantis is a great bike but it was developed about 17 or 18 years ago.
Perhaps it has seen some tweaks and improvements over the years.
In the past 17 years Grant and the other employees and close friends have
logged thousands of hours riding the hills and the actual Mountain.
I grew up at
Wow! Granted it's a retail shop (presumably with rent, utilities,
employees, etc.) but in our little corner of the world a used Atlantis
complete is +/- $1,500ish, depending on build & beausage. Maybe it's just
a super lightly used frame or one that had never been built and they came
into it,
Is anyone running these tires on their Joe Appaloosa?
Curious to know if they fit?
Thank you,
Ray
Vallejo CA
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@JohnS:
I'm also here: http://IMAGinations.zenfolio.com/p379094782/e7bb99e76
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I'm also 1874 on this page: http://imaginations.zenfolio.com/p379094782
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No, that looks like a darker metallic green I've seen on Riv Customs. Custom
colors are an upcharge available for built-to-order production bikes, I don't
think there's any chance that bike is the stock color.
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1. Used size 44 Specialized road shoes, used, but with new inserts.- 35$
2. New in package Speedplay light action cleat covers - 8$
3. Used Velo cheapy black saddle-10$
4.a. Used black aluminum Seatpost (30.9) -15$
4.b.New Mr.Tuffy 700c ultralightweight tire liners - 10$
4.c. Used Sigma wireless co
The college park guy has ridiculous ideas of pricing. I've contacted him
several times and its become clear that selling the posted bikes is just not a
priority. 2700$ complete is not what id call a deal, but it's actually not as
crazy as some of the prices he has quoted me.
Early on, there was
Bumpin' up and trying again. Winter is coming and these are real nice!
These are super clean and very nice quality.
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I had frustrations with shimmy at low to moderate speed (10-15 MPH) while
sitting upright cruising along a flat road on my Sam. Couldn't figure it
out. Had the LBS check it out: wheels, frame alignment, etc. They found
nothing. Tightened the headset to offer more friction and that didn't help.
Hi Doug: $2700. I think they got the frame and built it up at their shop. I’m
waiting for a list of components, age, and condition of the frame. They”d have
to come way down for me to buy it.
> On Aug 23, 2016, at 8:36 PM, dougP wrote:
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> Kellie:
>
> It looks darker than mine BUT Rivendell h
Kellie:
It looks darker than mine BUT Rivendell has used several slightly different
versions of the paint. IIRC it was just normal variation & nothing
intentional. I've seen a few things in person where the color looked
different than the pic.
You could ask them if it's a re-paint. BTW, how
You think that's NOT the regular Atlantis seafoam green? I thought it was
poor lighting in the picture. I have talked with this bike store. I believe
they're asking way too much for this bike, and they want to sell it as a
complete only.
On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 7:40:55 PM UTC-7, Joe Bern
Pre-garage sale purging.
Would love to sell it local but am willing to ship.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/albums/72157671659189260
$500
Manny
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The Rivendell Ebisu
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What green one?
On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 7:13:41 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Kellie, did you pass on that green one? I was curious if you were going to
> be happy with that color.
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Kellie, did you pass on that green one? I was curious if you were going to be
happy with that color.
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and.. I'm still without an Atlantis, so spread the word. 😃 BTW, I
talked with Rivendell today, the wait for an Atlantis is 2-3 months. I'm
holding my breathe for a used one!
On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 7:00:28 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
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> I don't feel like the thread is hijacked. I enjoy
I don't feel like the thread is hijacked. I enjoy hearing everyone's
ideas/opinions about a topic we all obviously love. "Better" is
qualitative, as is our experience on the bike. The whole thread has helped
me identify my own beliefs about the subject, and I thank you all. I hope
there's more
Yes, Christopher, and you will also usually get a "for you" qualifier from GP
about what your "best bike" is. He knew I was pushing my finances to get my
Appaloosa, and there's NO WAY he would have told me a more expensive model was
my best bike. That's not who he is.
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I didn't mean to lead the discussion astray, I just wanted to share a similar
question I had several months ago. I don't think there is any question that
Nobilette's work is in a separate league than any production bike. I think the
point is that the quality of the production bikes is good enoug
Maybe we should veer back to Kellie's questions about these two bikes. This
thread is well and truly hijacked by us at this point.
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Well, sir, you're responding to Grant being quoted on "best Riv". As there is
no such thing as a true custom Rivendell because they're all built to
parameters GP prefers, I don't doubt that he may consider a production Riv just
as good or better than a Nobilette built one. They're both his desig
Now you are significantly narrowing the scope of "better."
On 08/23/2016 07:28 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:
Nicer brazing and lugs doesn't necessarily qualify as a better bike when
actually being ridden.
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If you're in RBW range there's a garage sale Saturday from 11 to 1:00. You
could show up for that, then take a bike for a spin.
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Me thinks I'll go ride an Appaloosa this Sat. Maybe I'll fall in love with
it like I did the Atlantis. I do struggle with spending that much money on
a bike (Atlantis). That's why I began my Rivendell purchase with a
Hillborne. Then the Hillborne went by way of my adult daughter, and I got a
Ch
Nicer brazing and lugs doesn't necessarily qualify as a better bike when
actually being ridden.
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I'm sorry, no matter how good Waterford, or Toyo or Maxway are, they
just don't do as nice work as Nobilette.
On 08/23/2016 06:50 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:
You shouldn't doubt it. Grant doesn't design bikes based on "custom better than
production"; he designs the bike he wants built, then finds
Hi all, selling my 57cm Rivendell Romulus for $900 local (SF Bay area) or
$1000 shipped.
Link with more info on the bike: http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus
/romflyer/01.html
I will be posting photos tomorrow morning when I can take photos of it. I
think the headset could be either adjusted or
You shouldn't doubt it. Grant doesn't design bikes based on "custom better than
production"; he designs the bike he wants built, then finds a way to get it
built and sold. If you wanted his idea of the perfect custom Riv, right now it
would probably look a lot like an Appaloosa.
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I'm looking to trade my slightly used Brooks C15 carved for a C17. I
purchased this one on eBay, tried it but its just too narrow. Would prefer
black or slate.
Pictures, https://flic.kr/s/aHskFAgPi7
Thanks,
Ryan
Arlington, VA
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B.O.T.O.H I've never been in the middle of a ride and thought "I should've
bought that bike I was day dreaming about instead of this nice one that
fits my budget more. Then I'd really be having fun" :p
On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 3:57:39 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
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>
> Kellie, But but but ...
This bike has descended hills on SE Minnesota and NE Iowa gravel roads at
over 40 mph with no problems, but I haven't had a chance to try those hills
since the spacer was put in last Winter. It is the low speed without hands
wobble that Bill describes that is bothering me. Since the needle beari
Ahahaha, sure ! "Best" for who, Riv or the customer ? For Riv great if it
sells(regardless of the buyer name), for the consumer great if it meets all
you criteria(regardless of the make, model or manufacturer name), including
tires,frame fit, position, etc. If not, not so great !
On Monday,
Yes, the guy who builds them is one of the world's best. He also builds
the Rene Herse customs.
On 08/23/2016 05:54 PM, Ryan Fleming wrote:
yes you do indeed...why I go for riv customs
On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 5:50:42 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 08/21/2016 04:24 PM, Comot
yes you do indeed...why I go for riv customs
On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 5:50:42 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
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>
>
> On 08/21/2016 04:24 PM, Comotion001 wrote:
> > Great article, thanks for sharing. It would be wonderful if the US
> > became competitive in manufacturing bicycles.
>
> Wel
I'm assuming the horse has the initials GP?
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Better even than a Rivendell Custom? I kind of doubt that...
On 08/23/2016 05:04 PM, Christopher Murray wrote:
Hello,
I was in the market for a new Rivendell and asked the person some would argue is the most
qualified to answer which to get- Joe, Atlantis, or Custom. The response? "The Joe
Hello,
I was in the market for a new Rivendell and asked the person some would argue
is the most qualified to answer which to get- Joe, Atlantis, or Custom. The
response? "The Joe is the best bike ever."
That's pretty much straight from the horse's mouth.
Cheers,
Chris
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Be happy. The "hands on the bars at 20+" version is about the most
terrifying thing you can experience. Car crash - not even close,
because you're too busy to feel any emotion. Bike crash - over in an
instant, much too fast to feel any emotion. Being shot at - not even
close, it's mostly a
Hey group, just wondering if anyone has a 62QB that feels a little small and
might be intterested in giving a 64QB a shot. Mine is orange if that matters.
Just PM if theres any interest. Thanks! -Mike
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Steve pointed out: "some
will call "shimmy" (and that in some cases, others will call "speed
wobble"
That is an important distinction. I've never experienced the "hands on the
bars" version and I've never experienced the "ultra-high speed wobble"
variant where you have to be going 40mph to h
good...glad that turned out to be economical...those XT hubs are pretty
darn rugged
On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 3:19:35 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> Hub update: Just needed an overhaul. 9 bearings were rusted and replaced.
> $16 all said and done, though I can't pick it up on the Quick
Oh, you won't be hearing from him. He likes to read about himself over my
shoulder, but he would never admit that he's a Rivendell convert. He still
believes he could go back to his Target bike and it would be no big deal. He
will ride to the park and in our neighborhood, but there is no epic bi
Certainly cheap enough to try. Right there on a par with messing around
with the bags and the load. When you start changing things like bars
and stems to vary rider weight distribution it starts to get more
expensive. (I mention those because in 1972, my P15 Paramount exhibited
a truly terri
There are many different things that can cause a vibration that some
will call "shimmy" (and that in some cases, others will call "speed
wobble"). Some of them are various kinds of rider behavior, that can't
properly be blamed on the bike at all. Cases in point: shivering.
Holding on to the
This is a 61 cm Atlantis. The tire pressure looks like a good place to
start experimenting. I have been running the Cazadero at about 30-35 psi on
the front because of our chunky gravel roads. The seatbag and contents
probably weigh less than a pound, but I may try to see how a handlebar bag
af
All fair and savvy points. It all depends on how far you're willing to go
to address it.
I had the same issues and ordered a low trail fork that addressed it.
Ordering a custom fork is not expensive, especially if you don't mind
having it painted a different color than your frame.
Other simpler s
You and me both!
On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 6:49:55 AM UTC-6, Kellie wrote:
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> I confess, when I bought my Saluki off this list, I posted for an Atlantis
> or Saluki. The Saluki can up first and I went with it. I already had a
> Cheviot and needed something for longish rides on the road. I
Unfortunately, nobody knows what causes shimmy. What I mean by that, is
that there is not a human being on earth that look at your bike and say
"your bike shimmies and here's why". If we took 9 bikes that don't shimmy
and 1 that does and put them in a lineup, there is no human that can look
t
To second this, my Hunq shimmies with too much up front (making it
unridable on pavement, let alone single track), but handles more total
weight amazingly well with all but a wee bit in the rear and the rest in
the front. Others love their Hunqapillars loaded in the front, with just a
wee bit i
Leah,
This has all been fun and I think he has now come full circle with his
bike.
My question
When will we be seeing a post from Mrs Leah's husband?
There has to be another side of this story.:)
Jon
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On 08/23/2016 09:04 AM, JohnS wrote:
I enjoyed the ride, despite the light rain and head winds. Beautiful
country side, most roads were quite, rolling terrain, all good! I
would definitely do it again.
Bob and I were having a good time talking for the first half of the
ride, but riding a fixe
So it's not the bike, it's how the load was distributed.
On 08/23/2016 01:30 PM, Sky Coulter wrote:
Tony,
Don't know how helpful this might be but I was experiencing shimmy on
my 60cm saluki, I tried a number of things to fix it, including a
needlebearing headset (which helped i think). But
Great, Jay...that sounds perfect.
On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 11:08:49 AM UTC-5, Call Me Jay wrote:
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> Thanks for the insight. My Homer is safely parked inside my new
> office---no one has raised any concerns so far.
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I think your husband did a really good job on his crate and he and that
bike are stylinregards...plus I think your posts are great. They make
me smile !I hope you guys have many happy rides together as a family!
Best regardsRyan
On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 12:22:28 AM UTC-5, LeahFoy
Thanks for the heads up lungisman. I'm in touch with them.
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Tony:
I've had a 58 cm Atlantis since '03. With only a light load as you
describe it never shimmied.
My first experience with shimmy was the first time I had it loaded for a
tour, and all of the weight was on the rear. Others suggested getting some
weight forward, so after that I started e
Tony,
Don't know how helpful this might be but I was experiencing shimmy on my
60cm saluki, I tried a number of things to fix it, including a
needlebearing headset (which helped i think). But the biggest change was
when i swapped out the cockpit from a 90mm stem to a 100mm stem. Shifting a
bit
Thanks for sharing, I really liked seeing all of the Amish riding bikes or
in their buggies.
I was scanning the pictures and I see you're smiling in picture number 2685
in the Erb's Covered Bridge group. For those who are interested, I'm in
picture 1782 of the Hunseeker Covered Bridge group.
Since the blurb you are commenting on is about Compass tires in
general as opposed to just RTP, let me just say that, I think they
handle just as well as anything else out there in the rain! I've done
quite a few rainy rides on them, on warm days and cold ones.
I also get many less flats than on
ps- I have never done this but these are the things that come to mind.
Don't know if Rustoleum is the best thing to use on steel.
I usually use clear nail polish on the scratches I get though.
On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 12:18:03 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
> Hi all-
>
>
> I wanted to get
Maybe it is time for a repaint? Get it done your favorite color(s) /cream
headtube and windows? They will take care of that steerer tube rust, too,
and you could get them to seal the steel on it with some coat of something
while they are at it. Try Bilenky if you are on the East Coast. Everyone
Last summer I was on a short bike trip thinking to myself, during that time
on the bike when you have lots of time to think, that I have never been
bothered by shimmy on any bike that I could remember. The same morning I
kept hearing a knocking sound while pedaling or gliding at low speed, whi
id do an enamel primer on the bb shell once all the rust was removed, then
paint to match.
for the fork, i would remove it, flip it upside down and let it sit 24hrs
in a bucket of metal rescue. rinse, dry, apply boeshield or framesaver.
not that i think you need to do that. im just anal about
Pics and videos. Turn the volume down.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/Vjxj3M
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Hi all-
I wanted to get your opinion on rust / touch-up on the SimpleOne I
purchased a few months back. Yesterday, as I was getting ready to pull the
crank for some modifications, I noticed that the bottom bracket shell had
some significant paint loss and surface rust. It looked as though it
Thanks for sharing the link, Jan. Very informative and often entertaining
discussion. Candid, too, but respectfully so. Nice that you're getting
recognition for all the tire testing contributions you and crew have made
over the years.
Quite interesting was discussion of the effect that wider ti
>From the beginning: The original owner purchased it as a frameset in '99
because at the time, the future of the Atlantis was questionable. He built
the bike and never rode it because he found a Waterford that he liked
better. I bought it barely used a few years ago and have put a few thousand
Doing another Willow chainring sale. I've started a new grad program - all
proceeds pay off my tuition! Call it an investment in my education, and you
get nice chainrings as well...
The remaining sizes I have are listed at
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/category/willow-chainrings-c
To get the sal
Thunder Burt!!! I bought a set of these as an alternative to the Maxxis
Ardents that I have currently. The Ardents seem to be overkill 98% of the
time for my riding...can't wait to mount the Burt.
On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 10:05:07 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
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> I just finished a rambling,
Here is a used one for sale complete from a former RBW dealer in my area.
Mention the birthday sale if his price is too high. That is when the price is
the year you were born. I cannot vouch for the condition of the bike. But they
built up my Bleriot for me and were nice and did a great job. Gra
I will take them if David s doesn't
Best wishes
Bo
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David H.,
Hi. I"m interested in this crankset if it is still available.
Thanks,
David S.
On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 3:22 PM, David Hallerman
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>
> Rare to find nowadays, this totally new, never installed, perfect
> condition compact double Sugino Alpina 800 crankset has these features:
>
I enjoyed the ride, despite the light rain and head winds. Beautiful
country side, most roads were quite, rolling terrain, all good! I would
definitely do it again.
Bob and I were having a good time talking for the first half of the ride,
but riding a fixed gear is out of sync with the rest of t
The EL casing is so much more supple than most tires that my realization of
too low of a pressure in my Stampede Pass Els was a low speed washout on
the switchbacks of multi user ramp on a repurposed bridge, decked with
concrete, on a sunny dry day, just as Clayton's. No "mold release" or bloom
I confess, when I bought my Saluki off this list, I posted for an Atlantis
or Saluki. The Saluki can up first and I went with it. I already had a
Cheviot and needed something for longish rides on the road. I love the
Cheviot but it is heavy and difficult to get on a bike rack. Now I really
love
Kellie, But but but but so what ? Get what you want as
otherwise you'll buy something you do not, and end up selling it later
after you paid even more for your Atlantis as you had to buy 2 frames to
get the one you wanted.
On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 12:57:50 PM UTC-4, Kellie w
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