So it's not the bike, it's how the load was distributed.


On 08/23/2016 01:30 PM, Sky Coulter wrote:
Tony,

Don't know how helpful this might be but I was experiencing shimmy on my 60cm saluki, I tried a number of things to fix it, including a needlebearing headset (which helped i think). But the biggest change was when i swapped out the cockpit from a 90mm stem to a 100mm stem. Shifting a bit of my weight (240lbs) forward over the front wheel reduced the hands on shimmy more than anything else. With a load in the front basket and hands off, there is still a bit of wagging from the handlebars, but more like the wagging of a dog getting petted, than oone being taken outside for a walk.

Sky in New west

On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 9:46:05 AM UTC-7, Trenker wrote:



    Last summer I was on a short bike trip thinking to myself, during
    that time on the bike when you have lots of time to think, that I
    have never been bothered by shimmy on any bike that I could
    remember. The same morning I kept hearing a knocking sound while
    pedaling or gliding at low speed, which went away when I put both
    hands lightly on the handlebar. I gradually figured out it was the
    fender knocking against the tire, and I realized that I had always
    experienced shimmy, but never realized it or been bothered much by
    it. This is on a 66 cm Toyo Atlantis with rear panniers and a
    front basket. The same morning I was having the prolonged
    impression of how much I liked this bike for touring.


    During that trip I had enough time to experiment and ponder the
    shimmy, and I realized that it only happened at low speed, and
    that at higher speeds, eg. descending on asphalt or gravel, the
    bike was rock solid. Which is a nice concession.


    I think shimmy can be finely tuned in or out of a bike. Going to a
    slightly narrower tire can improve things, as can pumping up the
    front tire to the same adequate pressure as the back; it isn’t
    written in stone that the front tire has to be at a lower pressure.


    Even the road surface can affect or initiate shimmy: it looks flat
    but there are subtle undulations caused by car tires; they are a
    lot more obvious on gravel roads, before or after intersections.


    If you are tweaking your setup to reduce shimmy, you can test it
    at home by standing beside the bike and rapping the side of the
    handlebar with the heel of your hand: you will be able to see if
    the vibrations focus on the front end ( shimmy ) or condense
    around the back end of the bike ( ideal, which I now have with a
    small basket on front and saddlebag tied to a small home-made rear
    rack.) Tomorrow morning I head out on another short trip and I’ll
    have plenty of time to see how I like this setup.


    I suspect that tall riders on big bikes probably always experience
    a certain amount of shimmy, as well as a certain amount of frame
    flex, but we are used to it and don’t know any different. I wonder
    what size your Atlantis is?


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