Ah, dang! You're totally right Joe. I crossed 'em up. How embarrassing!
I've fixed the CL post.
And rest assured, the bikes are better than my faulty writing!
Reed
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:
> Not to be a stickler for detail - ok, I'm being a stickler for detail -
>
Thanks for asking. I hadn't thought to check.
The tires are labelled ETRO 37-622, 700c-35, just like the Supremes they
are replacing.
I measure 37 mm in front on velocity rim at 55 psi and 38 mm in back at 75
psi on an A23 rim.
The Supremes measured 35 mm on the same wheels at similar pressures.
That was a very good review! I love the picture of your bike with the
ortlieb bags pushed all the way back, and the other cargo shots too.
It's very perceptive of you to comment on how the Clem would be a tough
sell for your friends. I think maybe most of Rivendell's customers are
people who
>
>
> 1. Terrain you ride in.
paved roads to easy singletrack
>
> 2. What model bike and upright handlebar.
56cm cr-mo albatross
>
> 2. What type of on-road riding you do (commutes, errands, centuries,
> ...
>
(did, for me, I've switched to drops for now) fun and getting places
Not to be a stickler for detail - ok, I'm being a stickler for detail - the
dropbar mtb Bstone was the MB-1 circa '87-ish. MB-Zip was a stupid-light TIGed
flatbar mtb which people broke a lot.
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1. Flat, mostly. Windy. Occasional hill.
2. Clem, Bosco, 100mm stem
2 again. Commuting and other vehicular cycling up to 60 miles a day on
occasion
3. The angle of my saddle basically forms a continuous line going into the
bars, so, bars a bit above saddle and ends of bars about even with saddle
Thinking of trying Boscos on my Sam. I like my drops setups. But thinking
an upright setup will be fun for on-road riding, too. I do commuting,
errands, centuries, recreational on-road riding.
But it is hilly around here and was wondering what you hilly upright riders
do for your upright bike s
I wouldn't argue. I'm halfway tempted to throw the Moustache bar back on my
Sam with a DD stem--it actually came from Riv with a 100 mm Technomic +
Moustache combo--but I'm happy with the Albas for now, so I won't be going
to the trouble.
Still not settled on a handlebar purchase for my mtb. Silly
Gotcha. yes, as Ron mentioned, Mustache require 2" (5cm) shorter than a
regular road bar, so I'd argue you haven't tried them. Yes, I have
Mustache (all my Albastache bars are happily in use), and yes, the
Albastache is its own beastie and well worth trying.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Friday, J
After switching from my original albastache build to boscos a while back
and getting some more mileage and longer rides under me, I keep meaning to
do a proper medium-term write-up on the Clem and just kept being too busy
to do it. I finally had a quiet evening to sit down and apparently I had a
With any bars, set up is everything, but if you don't take 2" horizontal
extension from your normal road bar stem, you're not even in the right
ballpark for moustache bars.
Here's a recent thread with all the common experiences.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/internet-bob/
Hugh,
With The upmost respect. You are young.
Humbly,
Curtis
On Friday, June 17, 2016, Hugh Smitham wrote:
> Bob,
>
> I tried both the Moustache & Albastache and liked neither. I felt
> stretched out and the brake lever position wasn't ideal for me. That said
> you may experience them differe
I've fallen in love with my Hunqapillar and have decided to part with a few
bikes I haven't ridden recently.
First, a Bike Friday folding touring bike that I had custom made and then
upgraded to be as Riv-ish as I could manage:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/5641095552.html
Second, a RockCom
Bob,
I tried both the Moustache & Albastache and liked neither. I felt stretched
out and the brake lever position wasn't ideal for me. That said you may
experience them differently. With bikes and most especially with cockpits
there's no substitute for experience. And we change. When I was young I
Getting there, Patrick. By "splayed out" I meant that my body felt too
elongated with the moustache bars on my Sam. Some of this splay could've
been avoided with a dirt drop stem, though. I'm definitely curious about
the Albastache if they're truly quite different from moustache bars.
Earlier i
Jay, what size did you get? True to size?
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And a brilliant use of a John's Irish strap!
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:39 PM, cyclotourist
wrote:
> Here's the link: https://www.instagram.com/p/BGvQYc0LxKA/?taken-by=rivbike
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 6:48 AM, Daniel Jackson <
> daniel.seth.jack...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> New photo up on their
Hey! Thanks for reading it!
The Appaloosa and the Clem were pretty similar, but there were two big
differences: the handlebars and the sizing.
The Appaloosa comes in more sizes. The Clem is basically the first
Rivendell to be built to a price point. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I
think the
if the saddles are really shot maybe find a really good leatherworker and
make a wallet?
already shaped to your butt...
On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 4:56:26 AM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> I'll put those saddles to use if they are available. Thanks in advance.
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain conw
Here's the link: https://www.instagram.com/p/BGvQYc0LxKA/?taken-by=rivbike
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 6:48 AM, Daniel Jackson <
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> New photo up on their Instagram feed. Check it out!
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I have Hypers on one of my bikes, and find them very comparable to the
Marathon Supremes. Great value in tires IMHO.
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv
wrote:
> I got a pair of these on the recent Planet X sale. Arrived and installed
> today. They went on real easy and look great,
Saw him again today on black, undiscernable brand bike with what looks like
shop sack on front and Sackville on back, reflecto triangle on back.
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One of mine started a few months after riding. The other was popping
instantly on the first ride. The third was pretty close to that too. I sold
the hub and moved on.
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Tom Harrop wrote:
> Interesting, my hub had to be replaced for the same reason after a couple
>
Interesting, my hub had to be replaced for the same reason after a couple
of years. I wonder if it happens because the end caps unscrew in use. I see
they've changed the torque recommendation from 12 Nm to 20 Nm...
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Bob, sounds like you are narrowing things down a bit. Ultimately, it's all
an experiment, even if the trial lasts for several years with tweaks along
the way. Grin. I have no experience with 2 and 3, but I rode the Albatross
bars on my Hunqapillar for two years before swapping to Albastache. For
Yup, three times. Pawls kept slipping and making loud pops and pings.
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Tom Harrop wrote:
> Thanks Mark. Hmm, you're probably right about looking elsewhere, but there
> are an assortment of squeaks, clicks and clunks coming from the area.
>
> By the way, was it the
Thanks Mark. Hmm, you're probably right about looking elsewhere, but there
are an assortment of squeaks, clicks and clunks coming from the area.
By the way, was it the ratchet ring that your hub went back to Phil for?
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Thanks Veloman and Ron.
Ron, I dug around and found an old post of yours about the Map bar. Definitely
intriguing. I measured the top tube of my Rockhopper and it's roughly three cm
longer than that of my Sam.
So here are the final few options I'm considering.
1. Albatross w/ 120 mm Technomic
I got a pair of these on the recent Planet X sale. Arrived and installed
today. They went on real easy and look great, but I did have time for a
test ride. Looking forward to trying something new after several years of
Marathon Supremes.
Jay
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Yes, definitely not a homage, certainly based in part on the pure
functionality of 80s mountain bikes. The vintage ones I've had (Canyon
Express, Miyata Ridge Runner, Mongoose) all had chainstay lengths of, off
the top of my head, 43-46cm, which is right around the touring bike
territory of the
Alright. I still have a handful of good things in my garage that need good
homes as I attempt to build out my bike.
1. Tektro CR720's - $30, whole bike's worth
Big thanks for Jack for the hook up, unfortunately there isn't enough
clearance on my '87 Voyageur for the brake pads to fit between th
Alright. I still have a handful of good things in my garage that need good
homes as I attempt to build out my bike.
1. Tektro CR720's - $30, whole bike's worth
Big thanks for Jack for the hook up, unfortunately there isn't enough
clearance on my '87 Voyageur for the brake pads to fit between the
I've done front racks, Wald baskets, and such... the solution I evolved to
was a Tubus rear with Ortlieb bags. Why?
1) Rivs handle better with rear loads. It a design thing.
2) small front racks with large basket overhangs are fussy.
3) front racks have very modest capacity (unless they are th
The Nitto lugged stem is still available, everything else is sold. The stem
is a 10 cm. I am offering it now for $110 shipping included. Thanks to all
who were interested.
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The reason I don't have any specifics is that I am literally trying to
compile a list of
*all the front racks that fit without bodging, and that are cheaper than
Nitto.*$5,200 is a lot of money; our budget is blown for a while, so this
won't be a soon-purchase. I just want to know what works.
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>
> So, last Saturday I finally bought a Sam (55, blue, noodle)! (BTW A1
> Cyclery in Indianapolis rocks!) (And truth be told, I'm now a 2-Sam
> household as on Wednesda
Rambouillet:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/8351735340/in/album-72157623199721925/
On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 12:51:28 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>
> All in good fun, let's show Bill our BRG bikes!
> I'll start - BMC Monster Cross single speed 'road bike for dirt' -
> h
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>>
>> So, last Saturday I finally bought a Sam (55, blue, noodle)! (BTW A1
>>
FWIW in regard to chainring clearance you don't have to go to super long
stays in order to get this though. The original Stumpjumer is a great
example of design that had the clearance for both wide tires AND any crank
you wanted. In fact the original Stumpy came with TA cranks. Why no one
el
The reason Nitto is well regarded is because the quality is really
unmatched IMO anywhere on the market, which matters the more times you ride
your bike with more things. I believe all Nitto racks are still brazed by
the same woman in Japan for the past decade or maybe even two. Also made
out o
The thing is on your large, the chain stays could probably be 1 to 1.5 inches
shorter and you still wouldn't have to worry about clipping the pannier and you
would get the benefit of a better handling bike. Too long better than too short
for sure, but how much too long? Maybe for me, it's partly
* that was suppose to be PRE-blog during initial design then photos from the
factory when Will and another RBW employee visited.
Ryan
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I'll gladly take the ability to run normal cranks with low-ish q-factor
compared to other bikes that fit large tires if the exchange is that tight
turns are an issue.
For chainstay length, pannier clearance is completely dependent on the user
(foot size and pedaling position). I'd certainly tak
I'm with you, Bill. But based on those other rumored sizes, it sure seems
promising that a 56 or 57 might be in the works. I've complained so loud
and for so long about that size being missing (I even had a pre-sale locked
in when the model first came out, but backed out over concerns), that I
Grant has shared some early pics per blog with me and asked at that time for me
not to share them.
I second emailing Grant and he will send a link to the blog and keep you
abreast of all details pertaining to the HHH.
He is very open to questions and even some suggestions but likely wants the
i
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>
> So, last Saturday I finally bought a Sam (55, blue, noodle)! (BTW A1
> Cyclery in Indianapolis rocks!) (And truth be told, I'm now a 2-Sam
> household as on Wednesday we went back and my wife got one too - 51,
> orange, noodle.
Another vote for the On-One Mary bars.
Mike
On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 5:36:35 AM UTC-7, kielsun wrote:
>
> I hesitated posting this here, but it's definitely a Riv-inspired
> conundrum. I'm building up a late 80s Rockhopper and having trouble finding
> the right handlebar setup. It will prim
Jon,
If you want us to help you, you need to help us. People here are going to
recommend the Nitto options because many of us have tried the other options
and ended up with Nitto. RBW design their bikes with those racks in mind,
so generally speaking they are the closest to plug and play--not
The JAs sound like fabulous bikes, but why am I not surprised by this?
Sound like superb touring bikes
On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 8:25:41 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Michael -- thanks for this writeup. I was particularly struck by this:
>
> * I rode around their parking lot, doing laps
You know it's a bit subjective, the bike is BIG and even with shorter stays it
would still be big, but longs stays . . . How long is too long!? The bike was
made as a homage to or at least evolved from the idea of early 80's mountain
bikes, which had longer stays, steel forks, etc. The differen
Tom,
There are indeed three bearings in there. I had my bearings go in my Phil
cassette hub in one year, but that was through some nasty Canadian winter
riding. Phil ended up warrantying it, but for other reasons.
I'd be surprised if your bearings were the cause of a squeak though. In my
exper
If you want to carry something weighing much more than the rack itself, I'd
suggest a fairly cheap black Tubus lowrider with some panniers.
-Kai
Brooklyn NY
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Hah!!! I enjoyed that joke more than I probably should have.
On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 7:45:20 PM UTC-5, jeffrey kane wrote:
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> Does that mean when you wrote $100.00 you really mean, like, $65.00?
>
> On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 5:04:25 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Yes. I was writing
Sorry for the oversized images.
You get a more reasonably sized thumbnail if you scroll down. But for some
reason 1 of them is upside down. Go figure!
On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 5:23:23 PM UTC+3, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> I tried this for a few months, replaced with a Rivit.
> $90 shipped Sund
...and like Rivendell Bicycle Works, our 1st Anniversary Ride & Party is
next Saturday, June 25.
It would be great to see you.
Details in this link:
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Nittos are just way, way, way too expensive.
On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 10:12:19 AM UTC-4, Ryan Thompson wrote:
>
> I have a Cheviot, which has the same brake setup as your Sam, and use
> Mark's Nitto Rack with a Wald basket. Can't go wrong as the rack was
> specifically developed for Rivendel
Having a caliper brake doesn't preclude mounting a rack at the fork crown.
In fact, it's handy because it means you already have a bolt! I have my
Pass & Stow rack and a fender mounted on my Sam using the front brake
bolt: https://flic.kr/p/dURLir
-John
On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 10:00:38 AM
I have a Cheviot, which has the same brake setup as your Sam, and use
Mark's Nitto Rack with a Wald basket. Can't go wrong as the rack was
specifically developed for Rivendell's with caliper brakes.
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r1.htm
Ryan
On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 10:00:38 AM UTC-4, Jo
Jon,
could you be a little more specific on what you're looking for? a small
rack, a full-size rack? what do you want to carry? a trunk sack? panniers?
all of my experience is with the nitto options, so can't comment on
alternatives--i'm also a bit of a color matcher, so putting a silver nitto
Any front rack that fits easily without a lot of bodging would be fine.
I usually would want silver, but since my rear rack is a spare Trek that I
had around (which is black), a black front rack would balance it out.
As far as size, anything! I'm really just trying to gather a list of what
fit
New photo up on their Instagram feed. Check it out!
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Email Grant and get on the HHH mailing list. He's sending out updates
almost every other day. Not sure the protocol with posting HHH clique stuff
publicly ..
They've recently been doing some road/trail testing around Riv HQ. I think
they aim to have some prototype demos built up soon.
KJ
On
"WTB" usually means "Want To Buy." I don't necessarily want to buy one, I
just want the info on what has worked for people, for future reference.
Budget is totally depleted for now (2x Sams is a lot of money!)
On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 9:36:01 AM UTC-4, Howard Hatten wrote:
>
> Jon
> Congrat
Saddle has been sold. Thanks all !
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Jon
Congratulations on your new bikes. SAMs are really nice bikes. For your rack
needs just post a WTB to the list. This group is very friendly & they know just
what will work for your bike. I'm sure you'll find something in no time.
Safe riding
Howard
Livonia Mi
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So, last Saturday I finally bought a Sam (55, blue, noodle)! (BTW A1
Cyclery in Indianapolis rocks!) (And truth be told, I'm now a 2-Sam
hous
I use the "shoe goop" method as explained by Anton of Velo Lumino (a.k.a
somerville bikes). I forgo the tubes and just glue the wire to the bike. I
hold the wire flat with blue painters tape and then glue the wire (not the
tape!) let the glue cure and remove the tape. It keeps wires flat agains
I will also toss out the option of Handsome Cycles MudButler Fenders
http://handsomecycles.com/products/silver-fenders
Black or silver, priced compairable to Velo Orange too. Ive used them and
they are long and easy to mount.
I've got a bike in the stand right now that needs some fenders, the cu
I'll put those saddles to use if they are available. Thanks in advance.
Fair winds,
Captain conway
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Late to the party, but this article is still the best info in once place
http://oldglorymtb.com/round-up-alternative-or-alt-mountain-bike-handlebars/
Big Map bar fan here. There are 3 bars that were derived from the Jones H
bar, Jitensha Touring (Nitto 2522), Ahearne Map bar, and On-One Mar
I didn't see anything either. Can someone post them?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Michael Hechmer
mailto:mhech...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Email. Pictures? Not in my mailbox. I'd love to see them.
Michael
On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 10:14:38 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:
I'm
Email. Pictures? Not in my mailbox. I'd love to see them.
Michael
On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 10:14:38 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:
>
> I'm also seriously considering it when "Deposit Day" rolls around. The
> recent Size L pics Grant sent around look awesome!!
> We *need* this bike to tow o
Yes, technically Robert has those bars backwards. The standard position has the
straight part of the bar with levers closest to you - mimicking an mtb bar -
then the curved sections are forward of the stem for stretching out on longer
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I'll take the tires. (PM sent)
On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 3:45:09 AM UTC-5, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
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> I was going through the closet this morning and found the following:
>
> Honey B17
> Black B17N
> 2 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tires 700c 35mm
>
> The leather on the saddles is pretty shot but t
I was going through the closet this morning and found the following:
Honey B17
Black B17N
2 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tires 700c 35mm
The leather on the saddles is pretty shot but the frames are fine.
The tires got too many flats for me - 3 strikes and they're out is my
policy. Plenty of life l
Hi all,
This could be a silly question, but it's the internet so I'll ask anyway.
I'm planning to change the bearings in my Phil Wood "touring" cassette hub.
I can't see instructions for replacing the bearings in that model on their
website. There is a PDF for their FSA hubs, which are differen
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