The thing is on your large, the chain stays could probably be 1 to 1.5 inches shorter and you still wouldn't have to worry about clipping the pannier and you would get the benefit of a better handling bike. Too long better than too short for sure, but how much too long? Maybe for me, it's partly to do with where I ride & how I ride!? I rode cruisers/Klunkers/mountain bikes for 35 years, so I am pretty used to long stays, but it probably also makes me a little more aware of when they are too long.
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